Hoosier nailed it with this explanation. It's selfish, individualistic behavior.
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Hoosier nailed it with this explanation. It's selfish, individualistic behavior.
Exactly. I certainly can't speak for Rs, but when I went to college ZPG ( Zero Population Growth ) was pushed down our throats endlessly. Earth Day and all. The population bomb. Quit reproducing America! Now after following the leftist's advice, we now require illegal immigration to keep our population stable if not growing. It was a great plan by leftists and work just as they wanted it to...Immigration!
That's a ****ing STREEEEETCH, bud.Ok but then I could counter that you shouldn't expect social security and medicare then.
You might have paid into it to care for the previous generation but you didn't create the people to pay into it for you. There is 2 sides to that equation.
People aren't going to start having more kids. The costs are too high. We aren't going back to the single bread-winner/mom stays at home and raises the kids world. Even where it's financially incentivized, like China, it hasn't worked. We either grow through immigration or we don't grow.
That's false logic.Ok but then I could counter that you shouldn't expect social security and medicare then.
You might have paid into it to care for the previous generation but you didn't create the people to pay into it for you. There is 2 sides to that equation.
Easy:Explain yourself.
Exactly. I certainly can't speak for Rs, but when I went to college ZPG ( Zero Population Growth ) was pushed down our throats endlessly. Earth Day and all. The population bomb. Quit reproducing America! Now after following the leftist's advice, we now require illegal immigration to keep our population stable if not growing. It was a great plan by leftists and work just as they wanted it to...
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I'm glad I lived long enough to discredit everything I was taught at the U of I...
So people should have children out of obligation?Hoosier nailed it with this explanation. It's selfish, individualistic behavior.
LOL this is straight up stupidity. No offenseSounds like a boomer move. Screw everything up for some temporary gain for yourself and consider the fallout to be someone else's problem.
Our country has become too individualistic to where people don't feel they have any obligations to the country or the world outside of what the law forces them to do. They don't even feel obligated to replace themselves and raise the next generation.
All of are going to get old one day and we're all gonna want the productive people to care for us in our unproductive years. Now we can claim we deserve that because we did it for the previous generation. . . But the part they are missing from that equation is that you not only need to do it for the previous generations but you also need to create and raise the next generation.
That's a ****ing STREEEEETCH, bud.
What about people that can't have children? Should that be withheld from them too then? What about people that are step-parents but don't have their own kids. That's my situation. This is an entirely different discussion.
It's no surprise that the pro-life/anti-abortion crowd is also the "You should have kids and if you don't you're selfish" crowd
Child bearing can help fix blah hips. It also gives us MILF. We need more MILF.
People aren't going to start having more kids. The costs are too high. We aren't going back to the single bread-winner/mom stays at home and raises the kids world. Even where it's financially incentivized, like China, it hasn't worked. We either grow through immigration or we don't grow.
I hope you realize how ridiculous you sound.If you can't have children there is nothing that can be done there, I'm not suggesting they should be punished for something they didn't choose.
As for step children. It's good you are helping to raise the children but population wise you arn't replacing yourself. You creating the people that will be needed to pay for medicare and social security.
Huh? I don’t know anyone who cares. JD Vance used it as some throwaway line but other than that who cares?Fewer oxygen thieves? Good. The world is way over-populated as it is.
Single and ready to mingle? Hell yeah.
Can buy her own shit instead of milking free drinks at the bar? Again, hell yeah.
Why are repubbers so worked up over this?
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Don't immigrants pay into SS, Medicare, etc.?If you can't have children there is nothing that can be done there, I'm not suggesting they should be punished for something they didn't choose.
As for step children. It's good you are helping to raise the children but population wise you arn't replacing yourself. You creating the people that will be needed to pay for medicare and social security.
That's false logic.
Yeah - that third world country is a piece of crap. SMFHThan I fear our future is bleak much like Japan's.
I hope you realize how ridiculous you sound.
Hoosier cares. The purpose of human life is to replace yourself, apparently. Not to enjoy life.Huh? I don’t know anyone who cares. JD Vance used it as some throwaway line but other than that who cares?
That's just not the case. You are making false assumptions and foolish claims.No it's not. You don't pay into social security to have your money saved so that you use it later. You are paying into it to pay for the people currently taking from the system.
If more people are taking from the system than people paying into the system, it goes bust.
And because they are so insular and actively discourage immigration to preserve their culture, they are doomed. Educated women, on the whole, do not want to spend their lives raising families. Educated, married couples do not want to spend all their money raising families. Again - absent immigration - the demographics of Japan and China are the coming demographics of the US. This isn't hard to understand.China had the problem of previously telling people not to have kids to suddenly wanting people to have kids.
Their demographics much like Japan's are a huge problem for them.
Don't immigrants pay into SS, Medicare, etc.?
Sounds like the right wing should be embracing the welfare baby mammas and helping them out.
Huh? I don’t know anyone who cares. JD Vance used it as some throwaway line but other than that who cares?
And because they are so insular and actively discourage immigration to preserve their culture, they are doomed. Educated women, on the whole, do not want to spend their lives raising families. Educated, married couples do not want to spend all their money raising families. Again - absent immigration - the demographics of Japan and China are the coming demographics of the US. This isn't hard to understand.
It gives off a bit of a center of the universe vibe...self absorbed...selfish..., etc...
As a general rule, I'd be very leary.
It's self absorbed and selfish NOT to have kids? WTF
Pretty much.
What if people don't want to have babies?I believe they do but you really think it's wise to put all our eggs in the basket that there will always be immigrants to make up the difference??
What if other countries look more attractive to them? Or what if their home country gets things together and there isn't as big of a push to leave?
Good question. @HoosierhawkeyeWhat if you and your spouse only have 1 kid? Is it bad that you're only replacing 1 person and not 2?
Not nearly as shallow as wanting handouts or assuming having children are the only way to have a fulfilled life.I agree about their insular cultures being a hurt to them. But I don't think we should be putting all our eggs into that basket.
As far as cost I believe the government should subsidize it more to make it more attractive. However I personally think that it would be better for people to give themselves a purpose. Living your life just to have the most fun you can have seems pretty shallow and empty.
Having a great and fun life is empty bro. Just emptiness there while you're having great experiences all the time and enjoying freedom. So empty.Not nearly as shallow as wanting handouts or assuming having children are the only way to have a fulfilled life.
Get over yourself.
I read that if I have a healthy compost bin, my worms will pro-create to a sustainable level to thrive. If the environment becomes unsustainable bc of resources or harsh conditions like heat/cold, then they will cull their population and stop reproducing until it's sustainable again.Hoosier cares. The purpose of human life is to replace yourself, apparently. Not to enjoy life.
Good Lord, is this post ironic.It gives off a bit of a center of the universe vibe...self absorbed...selfish..., etc...
As a general rule, I'd be very leary.
I read that if I have a healthy compost bin, my worms will pro-create to a sustainable level to thrive. If the environment becomes unsustainable bc of resources or harsh conditions like heat/cold, then they will cull their population and stop reproducing until it's sustainable again.
Maybe we're all just worms in a bin, and we're seeing people naturally moderate the population control.
You never fail to rag on Boomers and it makes me wonder if your Boomer parents were jerks and abused you. Sorry if that’s the case.Ok but then I could counter that you shouldn't expect social security and medicare then.
You might have paid into it to care for the previous generation but you didn't create the people to pay into it for you. There is 2 sides to that equation.
What do you say about all the single men that have 0 desire to have children?It gives off a bit of a center of the universe vibe...self absorbed...selfish..., etc...
As a general rule, I'd be very leary.