Child bearing can help fix blah hips. It also gives us MILF. We need more MILF.
Child bearing can help fix blah hips. It also gives us MILF. We need more MILF.
How many kids do you have?
You don't think there is any benefit to having fewer people to support.I'm not actually advocating for it so much as I'm making a point that the systems we have in place to take care of elderly people rely entirely upon having younger productive people to support them.
If think people not reproducing is no big deal than I assume you will find it no big deal if you don't get social security or medicare.
It's not about individual benefit it's about does the country benefit? Does the community benefit? Does the country and community benefit from people choosing to not have children? On the contrary it's severely damaged by people not having children.
And I would point out that the taxes you pay into things like education are miniscule compared to what you will be receiving in Medicare and Social Security even when you don't count for inflation.
Another great post. Nice work.You don't think their is any benefit to having fewer people to support.
The world needs both kinds of people, with and without children. One is not better or more deserving than the other.
- Less poverty
- Less use of natural resources
- Not adding to the child care shortage problem
- Less absenteeism from work due to child care concerns
That's a lot of detail. I must have missed that thread but it does explain some things.You couldn’t have any kids of your own because you’re an insufferable low T loser. You got cucked by a fat white woman into raising her children created by a worthless black man.
If people start having kids for the sole purpose of "providing for the next generation" then they're having kids for the wrong reason.
People have kids because they want to have kids (clearly there's exceptions of "accidents"). If people that don't want to have kids start having kids solely because they feel like they have to for future generations, then those future generations of kids are going to be shitheads. We are already seeing this. From the stories my teacher friends tell me IRL to the stories on here...kids are ****ing bad nowadays. It would only get worse if folks that don't want to be parents start having kids because they feel obligated to, not because they truly want to.
Too bad I didn't proof read it before I posted. I fixed my their to there mistake.Another great post. Nice work.
The same thing could be said for men who choose to go single and childless. And I also said that individually people are free to make those choices, but as a society it becomes selfish.Women are not thinking “I got mine who cares about the next generation” when considering whether to have kids.
If they’re unmarried they have a lot of reasons - good ones.
Holy crap. Can people here agree that every individual has the right to make choices for themselves, but at the same time those choices, as a collective, can have negative effects on our society? Nothing wrong with staying single and childless. But if too many women make the same decision we as society have a problem. Individually, not to blame. As a society, it becomes selfish behavior not to procreate and provide for the next generation. It's "I got mine, who cares about the next generation" mentality. So, as a society our government should be incentivizing families to have kids, not making it harder on them, because it is good for the future of this country.
I was responding to the post that I quoted about having kids for the future of the country. And my point still stands, people should have kids because they WANT to have kids, not because they think the country needs it. When you have even more parents that don't want to be parents, then you have more shitty kids.Do you really think those people were actually having kids for the good of society or do you think they were accidents or just shitty people teaching their kids to be equally shitty.
There have always been kids with bad parents. My wife and I both have the mental scars from constant bullying to know it.
You're ****ing weird, dude.This is exactly it. I would care a lot less if we have a birthrate of 2.1 children per woman overall.
I didn't know anyone considered this a bad thing. Seems strange, plenty of people having kids out there.
Elon Musk believes it’s his duty to procreate and it seems pretty clear he’s a pretty shitty father.If people start having kids for the sole purpose of "providing for the next generation" then they're having kids for the wrong reason.
People have kids because they want to have kids (clearly there's exceptions of "accidents"). If people that don't want to have kids start having kids solely because they feel like they have to for future generations, then those future generations of kids are going to be shitheads. We are already seeing this. From the stories my teacher friends tell me IRL to the stories on here...kids are ****ing bad nowadays. It would only get worse if folks that don't want to be parents start having kids because they feel obligated to, not because they truly want to.
The same thing could be said for men who choose to go single and childless. And I also said that individually people are free to make those choices, but as a society it becomes selfish.
You're ****ing weird, dude.
Nobody cares about any beatings, we just need to get this birthrate up!I've known that all my life. Learned that back 30 years ago when being weird was an offense worth a daily beating.
/threadcons: it selfish not to have kids
cons: if you can’t afford kids don’t have them
How about this? No, people who don't want kids or are shitty parents shouldn't have kids out of obligation because the country needs it. At the same time, those families that do want more kids and are good parents and will contribute to providing the next generation, that our country does things that incentivizes and rewards it and makes it less burdensome to do so.I was responding to the post that I quoted about having kids for the future of the country. And my point still stands, people should have kids because they WANT to have kids, not because they think the country needs it. When you have even more parents that don't want to be parents, then you have more shitty kids.
I'm not even really sure what you're attempting to get at with your post.
Sounds about perfect to me.How about this? No, people who don't want kids or are shitty parents shouldn't have kids out of obligation because the country needs it. At the same time, those families that do want more kids and are good parents and will contribute to providing the next generation, that our country does things that incentivizes and rewards it and makes it less burdensome to do so.
Nobody cares about any beatings, we just need to get this birthrate up!
Well Jr. Here I am fixing you Kraft Mac n Cheese instead of going on that month long backpacking trip because I had to replace myself. Stfu and eat it you little ingrate….Having a great and fun life is empty bro. Just emptiness there while you're having great experiences all the time and enjoying freedom. So empty.
This doesn't help your argument.Do you really think those people were actually having kids for the good of society or do you think they were accidents or just shitty people teaching their kids to be equally shitty.
There have always been kids with bad parents. My wife and I both have the mental scars from constant bullying to know it.
that our country does things that incentivizes and rewards it and makes it less burdensome to do so.
I don’t think there are too many people out there who don’t realize at some point it’s been a Ponzi scheme all along. FDR sold it to a population living through hard times on a scale we’re fortunate enough not to live through ourselves.
What do you propose "society" should do about this selfishness?The same thing could be said for men who choose to go single and childless. And I also said that individually people are free to make those choices, but as a society it becomes selfish.
NOT all single people are so because of choice. Nor are all childless people childless because of choice. Just ask schoolmarms of old and how about nuns and priests.? And those with fertility problems? That said if there is choice, it's their choice.All women have the ability to make choices about marriage.
If they want to remain single that is their decision. Not every
person wants to be married. The companionship and motherhood
which marriage offers is a personal choice.
Bottom Line: Single-working women in the work force can be
a positive development. They should be applauded for it.
Harrison Butker is right. The world needs more Harrison Butker’s and less Travis Kelce’s. If given the chance you would rather make love with Travis Kelce than a strong conservative woman.Bro, do you not even Harrison Butker?
Because some people Harrison Butker in this thread. Big time.
CBS's Young Torbee
Gotta put them in their place, right Northern?! Show em the back of the hand occasionally as well, amiright?! God you're a tool.It gives off a bit of a center of the universe vibe...self absorbed...selfish..., etc...
As a general rule, I'd be very leary.
You are becoming a message board advertisement for birth control.I've known that all my life. Learned that back 30 years ago when being weird was an offense worth a daily beating.
I mask most of the time but they still havn't beat it all out of me yet.
what is the .1? Like birth a hand like Mae Young or something?You're ****ing weird, dude.
So, more welfare for the baby mammas? OK.How about this? No, people who don't want kids or are shitty parents shouldn't have kids out of obligation because the country needs it. At the same time, those families that do want more kids and are good parents and will contribute to providing the next generation, that our country does things that incentivizes and rewards it and makes it less burdensome to do so.
half of gen Z is 19 or youngerTrust me I think the schools should be held accountable for their failures to combat bullying.
But we do need to get the birthrate back up to 2.1 or our society will face more problems because it's oldest generations decided that it was all about them.
Boomers did that with tax cuts. Millennials and Gen Z are doing it with not having children.
So you won't acknowledge that immigration can supply any of the bodies you are looking for?Trust me I think the schools should be held accountable for their failures to combat bullying.
But we do need to get the birthrate back up to 2.1 or our society will face more problems because it's oldest generations decided that it was all about them.
Boomers did that with tax cuts. Millennials and Gen Z are doing it with not having children.
You never fail to rag on Boomers and it makes me wonder if your Boomer parents were jerks and abused you. Sorry if that’s the case.
Boomers paid a lot of money into the system. In the 80’s so many of us supported legislation that would have allowed us more control over how our deductions were invested but it didn’t pass. So we had to set aside even more money in a 401/IRA.
That meant we were the first generation where women worked in large numbers because we needed the money and for the first time we had more opportunities- thus we didn’t stay home and have a bunch of kids. We’d grown up in homes where Mom was Betty Crocker and Dad was a WWII vet who took the one car to work and there was one TV with maybe 2-3 channels.
Boomers are also still working in record numbers. I just returned from eight days over in England and Ireland and when I tell you the flight attendants (American Airlines) were really really damn old I’m not exaggerating in the least. Like my age old. 70+ old. It was amazing but they also knew their job, had great customer service and kept the passengers on a 100% full plane (300 plus) happy.
So we’re living longer but is that a bad thing? It means you will too unless you’re fat, you smoke, or you’re a booze hound.
Oh and finally as we start to die in big numbers it’s predicted we will be leaving our kids a LOT of money.
The cool part here is that this is solely your opinion. You see not having children as selfish. I see it as just another life choice in a long list of life choices everyone can make. There's no selfishness in living life how you want to live it. I don't like babies/toddlers. At no point in my life have I ever wanted one. Do I owe America one? **** no, I don't.But we do need to get the birthrate back up to 2.1 or our society will face more problems because it's oldest generations decided that it was all about them.
Boomers did that with tax cuts. Millennials and Gen Z are doing it with not having children.
you didn't say no pic. now you have to pic.I love women and they love me.
Mrs. Northern, who is an exceedingly attractive middle age woman, can vouch for me.
I think he did, but said American culture is more important.So you won't acknowledge that immigration can supply any of the bodies you are looking for?