Wow, this thread went off the rails. My partner and I decided that neither of us want to have kids, so we're not having them. If that bothers you, then you can GFY. See Tim Walz' golden rule: "Mind your own damn business". We both have good paying jobs, but still have to watch our spending. I can't imagine trying to support a family with a household income under 100k (In 2024, the median annual household income is estimated to be $78,171).
@Hoosierhawkeye what's worse for society, someone that chooses not to have kids or someone that shits out 8 kids they can't afford and lives off the government teet?