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DEI—-can we all agree

We as a rule, tend not to look at applicants from Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma or Louisiana. Most are mentally handicapped, therefore not a cultural fit
 
I cannot wait for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT. I mean, same major; but my mother is Navajo, so I sure as shit better get the job.
 
We as a rule, tend not to look at applicants from Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma or Louisiana. Most are mentally handicapped, therefore not a cultural fit
I assume this is a joke as I didn’t read the whole thread. If not, are you readily admitting you are biased by certain people?

I understand most people here are taking about racism in not hiring people; but how is this any different?
 
You probably don't fix this level of homophobia. But there are plenty of people with homophobic beliefs that might not be aware that what they're saying is homophobic.

So they sit through the training. Maybe they even think it's a waste of time. But at the end of the day maybe they decide not to make an off color remark the next day.

The result is the same. Less bullshit in the workplace.
What would you know about a workplace. Since you’ve been a worthless leech your entire life.
 
The reverse is true too. Diversity training can lead to the best person for the job. Consciously removing your bias about the person in the wheelchair, or the person with the accent, and instead focusing on their resume and their actual qualifications.
The only qualifications you’ve ever had was disease spreading.
 

Meta joins chorus of DEI rollbacks, cutting roles and programs​

The tech and social media giant ended a number of diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives last week, including its supplier diversity program.

  • Meta has joined the chorus of companies reversing course on diversity, equity and inclusion programs and is ending a variety of DEI initiatives, including its supplier diversity program, a company spokesperson confirmed on Friday.
  • Meta also cut its DEI team and will end equity and inclusion programs and representation goals, and cease to incorporate the “diverse slate approach” in its hiring processes, according to changes first reported Friday by Axios. The company’s web page outlining its diversity practices is no longer active.
  • The tech and social media conglomerate made the changes the same week it announced it would end its third-party fact-checker program, as it broadly looks to step away from corporate policies that may put it in the crosshairs of a Republican-led Congress and President-elect Donald Trump’s incoming administration.
 
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The best person for a position should be the one to get the job. I am not the best candidate to be a flight nurse, that doesn't mean someone should have to hire me just to check a box.

What there really needs to be is training on what DEI really is. DEI isn't about gender or race, DEI is about making a product or system better by being inclusive and providing equity for people to do their jobs or participate in life.
 

Meta joins chorus of DEI rollbacks, cutting roles and programs​

The tech and social media giant ended a number of diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives last week, including its supplier diversity program.

  • Meta has joined the chorus of companies reversing course on diversity, equity and inclusion programs and is ending a variety of DEI initiatives, including its supplier diversity program, a company spokesperson confirmed on Friday.
  • Meta also cut its DEI team and will end equity and inclusion programs and representation goals, and cease to incorporate the “diverse slate approach” in its hiring processes, according to changes first reported Friday by Axios. The company’s web page outlining its diversity practices is no longer active.
  • The tech and social media conglomerate made the changes the same week it announced it would end its third-party fact-checker program, as it broadly looks to step away from corporate policies that may put it in the crosshairs of a Republican-led Congress and President-elect Donald Trump’s incoming administration.

Meta is playing the game because they know that they need people to use their products and so they're trying to not piss people off. My guess is they understand the real use of DEI and are using it behind the scenes just like the past.
 
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I cannot wait for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT. I mean, same major; but my mother is Navajo, so I sure as shit better get the job.

Are you really this misinformed and lack any type of understanding about what goes into hiring someone? You really think someone is hired strictly by where they got their degree? You should really think before you post, and if that's too hard, then just don't post. You look like a fool.
 
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Are you really this misinformed and lack any type of understanding about what goes into hiring someone? You really think someone is hired strictly by where they got their degree? You should really think before you post, and if that's too hard, then just don't post. You look like a fool.
"hired strictly by where they got their degree"

absolutes rarely help your case.
 
"hired strictly by where they got their degree"

absolutes rarely help your case.

Exactly, and that's why his post was stupid, he assumed that an MIT degree should always get you hired over someone with a degree from UNI.
 
Exactly, and that's why his post was stupid, he assumed that an MIT degree should always get you hired over someone with a degree from UNI.
"statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT"
Nowhere did the OP say, hint or imply anything close to

'always get you hired over someone with a degree from UNI'

Again, absolutes and misrepresenting what others post is not good for your case. Currently your credibility is slipping lower and lower..........
 
"statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT"
Nowhere did the OP say, hint or imply anything close to

'always get you hired over someone with a degree from UNI'

Again, absolutes and misrepresenting what others post is not good for your case. Currently your credibility is slipping lower and lower..........

The poster mentioned only one item to compare against the two people, it was where they got their degree. And then he mentions the UNI person complaining if they don't get the job. He used MIT vs UNI to point out that it would be outrageous for the UNI person to expect to get the job and should only expect to get it because they're Native American. That's such an insult in so many ways. If the poster wasn't trying to say MIT is always greater than UNI, then why didn't he just say two people from MIT? Why did he have to use two different colleges? The poster chose the absolute when he used MIT vs UNI.

That's not how people are hired, all kinds of things are look at, even for statistics positions. The poster posted an idiotic, unrealistic situation that does nothing but fuel the other idiots to blame minorities for why they get hired. That's BS and truly racist and you're defending it.

If you feel differently, tell me what the real meaning of the post was? What value did that post have on a realistic situation of two people applying for a job. All he did was try to make out a minority as the bad person.
 
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The poster mentioned only one item to compare against the two people, it was where they got their degree. And then he mentions the UNI person complaining if they don't get the job. He used MIT vs UNI to point out that it would be outrageous for the UNI person to expect to get the job and should only expect to get it because they're Native American. That's such an insult in so many ways. If the poster wasn't trying to say MIT is always greater than UNI, then why didn't he just say two people from MIT? Why did he have to use two different colleges? The poster chose the absolute when he used MIT vs UNI.

That's not how people are hired, all kinds of things are look at, even for statistics positions. The poster posted an idiotic, unrealistic situation that does nothing but fuel the other idiots to blame minorities for why they get hired. That's BS and truly racist and you're defending it.

If you feel differently, tell me what the real meaning of the post was? What value did that post have on a realistic situation of two people applying for a job. All he did was try to make out a minority as the bad person.
You are trying way too hard here. Your attempt to be outraged by misrepresenting what the op has posted is laughable. Keep working at it because so far you haven’t been very good in this thread. Try to respond to what is actually posted rather than what you hoped was posted to feed your faux outrage.
 
Until we have studies, where applications are sent in with "black" names and traditional white names, and the call backs are 50-50 by companies, then maybe DEI needs to continue to be a bit of a thing. For now it's at least 80-20 that the white name gets contacted back.
Is that with qualifications accounted for
 
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The right might be more persuasive if they didn't refer to absolutely every black person occupying a professional role as a "DEI hire."
Agreed. It works both ways. One side Feels like it’s the elite patriarchy running things, the other feels it’s the race baiters and affirmative action lovers. Minus DEI programs and affirmative action, hires shouldn’t and wouldn’t be questioned as easily.
 
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The "respect in the workplace" and "treat others how you want to be treated" training videos from 20 years ago serve all the needs for standard employee training today.

Everything else is just buzz words and virtue signaling.

And most will just roll their eyes and take the pointless quizzes each year. And move on
 
Weird take. I don't need "training" to be kind to my fellow man, treating them with dignity and respect. As with all my annual training, I press play on the video, hit mute, then take the test at the end which doesn't take a rocket surgeon to pass.
Do you think everyone is like you?

Also, it’s as much to provide more ammo to fire people who refuse to learn.
 
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You are trying way too hard here. Your attempt to be outraged by misrepresenting what the op has posted is laughable. Keep working at it because so far you haven’t been very good in this thread. Try to respond to what is actually posted rather than what you hoped was posted to feed your faux outrage.
That’s where you’re wrong, I don’t have any rage, just responding to stupid posts that provide nothing but some faux outrage against Minorities.
 
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You are trying way too hard here. Your attempt to be outraged by misrepresenting what the op has posted is laughable. Keep working at it because so far you haven’t been very good in this thread. Try to respond to what is actually posted rather than what you hoped was posted to feed your faux outrage.

So what do you think the OP was trying to say with his post? To me he was trying to say that minorities are entitled to jobs even when their degree is from a lessor university. It was a made up scenario to create (what you call) faux outrage.
 
So what do you think the OP was trying to say with his post? To me he was trying to say that minorities are entitled to jobs even when their degree is from a lessor university. It was a made up scenario to create (what you call) faux outrage.
I think the op was trying to say just what they typed. Not what you thought they were trying to type, not what you needed them to type to support your position. Exactly what they typed. You assigned a position to them that wasn’t reflective of what they typed.
Keep misrepresenting what was typed, it does wonders for your credibility.
 
I think the op was trying to say just what they typed. Not what you thought they were trying to type, not what you needed them to type to support your position. Exactly what they typed. You assigned a position to them that wasn’t reflective of what they typed.
Keep misrepresenting what was typed, it does wonders for your credibility.

So go ahead and tell me what they meant. If the post had another meaning then please explain. It was a BS post about some imaginary minority that feels entitled that they should get the job even though they're less qualified (in the OP mind). It was nothing but a hate post and the OP knows it and that's probably why you haven't seen a response from the OP.
 
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So go ahead and tell me what they meant. If the post had another meaning then please explain. It was a BS post about some imaginary minority that feels entitled that they should get the job even though they're less qualified (in the OP mind). It was nothing but a hate post and the OP knows it and that's probably why you haven't seen a response from the OP.
The OP would probably be better at that exercise but let me see if I can take a crack at.

"I cannot wait for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT."

My interpretation is that they(the OP) is waiting for the day that a statistics degree from UNI(a less prestigious school perception wise) carries the same weight as a degree from MIT(a more prestigious school)

Currently most people would be of the opinion that a degree from MIT>>>UNI

They are waiting for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT.

Was that so complicated? They meant what they typed. Keep trying to read more into it, keep looking for more. It is pretty simple.
 
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random question. should dei benefits be applied cradle to grave or should a person only get one crack?
for instance, it is likely that the same individual gains admission to a elite institution, gets a full ride/scholarship, gets employment, and later on lands a top exec/leadership spot all based on dei.
 
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The OP would probably be better at that exercise but let me see if I can take a crack at.

"I cannot wait for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT."

My interpretation is that they(the OP) is waiting for the day that a statistics degree from UNI(a less prestigious school perception wise) carries the same weight as a degree from MIT(a more prestigious school)

Currently most people would be of the opinion that a degree from MIT>>>UNI

They are waiting for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT.

Was that so complicated? They meant what they typed. Keep trying to read more into it, keep looking for more. It is pretty simple.

Wow, you totally failed to mention the last part of the post. I believe the OP was being sarcastic with his first sentence. When is there ever going to be a case where every university is going to be rated the same? Do you think that will every happen? Do you really believe the OP thinks that should be the case? That's never going to happen and that's fine because people don't get hired strictly by where they went to college. But even if you believe the OP was being honest, the second statement is just uncalled for. He's specifically make up a story where a Navajo feels their entitled to get a job over anyone. Unless you believe he was talking specifically about himself.

"I cannot wait for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT. I mean, same major; but my mother is Navajo, so I sure as shit better get the job."
 
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Wow, you totally failed to mention the last part of the post. I believe the OP was being sarcastic with his first sentence. When is there ever going to be a case where every university is going to be rated the same? Do you think that will every happen? Do you really believe the OP thinks that should be the case? That's never going to happen and that's fine because people don't get hired strictly by where they went to college. But even if you believe the OP was being honest, the second statement is just uncalled for. He's specifically make up a story where a Navajo feels their entitled to get a job over anyone. Unless you believe he was talking specifically about himself.

"I cannot wait for the day when a statistics degree from UNI carries the same weight as a degree from MIT. I mean, same major; but my mother is Navajo, so I sure as shit better get the job."
"I believe the OP was being sarcastic with his first sentence"
and then got totally serious with the second part?
AND you started with 'wow'

You just keep trying to find the injustice in that simple post. Pretty safe bet that if you think the first sentence is sarcastic the second sentence where they dropped a profanity is as well. Keep looking, you will find the outrage if you keep looking........... until then........wow.
 
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"I believe the OP was being sarcastic with his first sentence"
and then got totally serious with the second part?
AND you started with 'wow'

You just keep trying to find the injustice in that simple post. Pretty safe bet that if you think the first sentence is sarcastic the second sentence where they dropped a profanity is as well. Keep looking, you will find the outrage if you keep looking........... until then........wow.

You actually believe the OP is hoping there's a day when a degree doesn't matter which college you went to? No one in their right mind would ever think or want that. His post went way over your head and now you've been defending your version multiple times. If you notice he hasn't responded once to me, he knows what he meant and so he's laying low about it.
 
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You actually believe the OP is hoping there's a day when a degree doesn't matter which college you went to? No one in their right mind would ever think or want that. His post went way over your head and now you've been defending your version multiple times. If you notice he hasn't responded once to me, he knows what he meant and so he's laying low about it.
Ummmmm, someone typed
"I believe the OP was being sarcastic with his first sentence"
I am heartily chuckling at you thinking something went over someone else's head. Keep fighting the good fight. Battling wits with the unarmed soon loses it's allure
 
Ummmmm, someone typed
"I believe the OP was being sarcastic with his first sentence"
I am heartily chuckling at you thinking something went over someone else's head. Keep fighting the good fight. Battling wits with the unarmed soon loses it's allure

For some reason you never want to address his last sentence about a Native American who feels entitled to get a job over someone from MIT. It was a made up statement to create anger regarding minorities being entitled. You keep defending a guy who obviously knows his post was bad and so he’s never going to come to your defense. I see why you struggle on this board, you can’t seem to follow what people are posting.
 
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For some reason you never want to address his last sentence about a Native American who feels entitled to get a job over someone from MIT. It was a made up statement to create anger regarding minorities being entitled. You keep defending a guy who obviously knows his post was bad and so he’s never going to come to your defense. I see why you struggle on this board, you can’t seem to follow what people are posting.
You continue to assign opinions to people, this time to me. You should stop that habit. I am not defending the poster. I think the post was a combination of sarcasm and mockery of the DEI process.
You want to attach some deep emotion and seriousness to it. It wasn’t that deep, it wasn’t that serious. If a throwaway post on a sports message board stirs up anger in you then you may want to evaluate yourself.
I got involved because you were attempting to assign some greater meaning to the post. Congratulations, I fell into your trap and kept this going. I suffer fools poorly and like to point out their foolishness, especially when they double down on it.
If the post created anger in you or others then ….. well, that can’t be helped. Carry on you outrage warrior.
 
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