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DEI—-can we all agree

In my opinion, lecturing and forcing people to watch videos or take classes or read literature about accepting other people for their differences actually makes people NOT want to accept other people for their differences.
 
Well, anecdotally speaking, I had an accountant friend who worked for Mobil (before the Exxon merger) whose sole reason for being on staff was to clean up the messes made by DEI (then “affirmative action”) hires in their various accounting departments. I’m sure Mobil was not alone in this regard.
 
Well, anecdotally speaking, I had an accountant friend who worked for Mobil (before the Exxon merger) whose sole reason for being on staff was to clean up the messes made by DEI (then “affirmative action”) hires in their various accounting departments. I’m sure Mobil was not alone in this regard.
Yeah, this sounds made up.
 
You can “DEI train” all day long but there will remain a small vestige of society who cling to hating others because they are just sad angry persons with issues.
True, but through DEI training maybe they learn that certain behaviors will not be tolerated in their workplace. DEI training will probably not change many hearts or minds, however it might make individuals aware that certain behaviors or comments are offensive and engaging in them may result in being terminated from their job.
 
Well, anecdotally speaking, I had an accountant friend who worked for Mobil (before the Exxon merger) whose sole reason for being on staff was to clean up the messes made by DEI (then “affirmative action”) hires in their various accounting departments. I’m sure Mobil was not alone in this regard.
Cool anecdote that has zero to do with the question I asked below. Feel free to take another crack at it.

"So many people assume that the person hired for a job isn’t qualified unless they’re a white male. Why is that?"
 
In my opinion, lecturing and forcing people to watch videos or take classes or read literature about accepting other people for their differences actually makes people NOT want to accept other people for their differences.
I don't care if you accept me. I simply don't want to be denied employment or have to listen to f@ggot comments while I'm at work. You can hate my ass as much as you want on your own time.
 
Disagree that DEI is a good thing. On another board I frequent, a guy in HR for Phillips 66 was bragging about how they’d met their LGBTQMAP hiring goals. Asked him what one guy sticking his dick in another guy’s butthole had to do with retrieving fossil fuels from the earth, refining them into usable products, and bringing them to the market. Never got a straight answer (pun intended).
“Sticking his dick in another guys asshole” and sticking a drill bit into the earth to pull out its “essence”…There is kind of a symmetry to this symbolism right? I think there is a place for DEI in tge business of Big Oil , based on that.
 
True, but through DEI training maybe they learn that certain behaviors will not be tolerated in their workplace. DEI training will probably not change many hearts or minds, however it might make individuals aware that certain behaviors or comments are offensive and engaging in them may result in being terminated from their job.

Such training has long been in place.
 
“Sticking his dick in another guys asshole” and sticking a drill bit into the earth to pull out its “essence”…There is kind of a symmetry to this symbolism right? I think there is a place for DEI in tge business of Big Oil , based on that.
From my post #64:

“Drilling” jokes aside, I don’t see what sodomy has to do with actually converting minerals into an energy source.”

I’m still not completely sure what this board means by “Pepsi”, but I think you may have posted one.
 
Companies to it so when the get hauled to court by either the racist or the target of the racist they can provide evidence that they were either trying to educate or protect. Weather it actually does either is irrelevant
 
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Weird take. I don't need "training" to be kind to my fellow man, treating them with dignity and respect. As with all my annual training, I press play on the video, hit mute, then take the test at the end which doesn't take a rocket surgeon to pass.
No, you need to have proof you took the training class so that when the company is sued they can say look, we did our part, that guys just an asshole, go after him.
 
Until we have studies, where applications are sent in with "black" names and traditional white names, and the call backs are 50-50 by companies, then maybe DEI needs to continue to be a bit of a thing. For now it's at least 80-20 that the white name gets contacted back.
Assuming equal qualifications, agree 100%. I assume that is what you are getting at.
 
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I think with my white name and if I post the year that I got my degree(old) that my chances of getting a call back are affected more than 12%
 
What makes her a DEI hire?
Pretty weak resume to come in and be awarded with a salary double of her predecessor, don't you think? >

 
Assuming equal qualifications, agree 100%. I assume that is what you are getting at.
That was the study. It was actually better than 80-20 which was my mistake. Equal resumes with different names were sent to companies and traditional white names got more call backs than someone named Lamar or LaShonda. Proving that there is still inherent racism in the way companies hire.
 
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Pretty weak resume to come in and be awarded with a salary double of her predecessor, don't you think? >

Sounds like a "who ya know" hire. Tale as old as time.
 
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Meta walks away from DEI as well. The energy has shifted in an unbelievable way.
 
Can we all agree that DEI is a good thing but Corporations and Governments should not make people take quarterly tests, push it endlessly on their websites homepage to make them seem not racist or something, act like they should get an award because they hired “X” number of these many people, etc…

Wouldn’t a simple blurb in the “who we are” section of the website be enough?
No, we can't all agree DEI is good. The U.S. is a meritocracy and always should be. Diversity is good if it occurs organically, it it occurs any other way it is racism.
 
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You probably don't fix this level of homophobia. But there are plenty of people with homophobic beliefs that might not be aware that what they're saying is homophobic.

So they sit through the training. Maybe they even think it's a waste of time. But at the end of the day maybe they decide not to make an off color remark the next day.

The result is the same. Less bullshit in the workplace.
Are you homophobic Huey?
 
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