CIA finally admits covid likely came from lab leak

[GolfHacker1]

The consequence of clearing out my ignore list is that I see Scruffy whether I want to or not.

I'm still resisting putting people back on that list, but he would surely be an early rerturnee.

Keep us posted please and thanks!

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Not just studying them.
Deliberately modifying them so that they were contagious in humans.

This is the research EcoHealth Alliance moved to China after the Obama administration made it harder to get approval to do gain of function research in the U.S.

Tabak confirmed Thursday that the NIAID did indeed fund gain-of-function research on coronaviruses in Wuhan through EcoHealth Alliance according to the colloquial understanding.

According to the policy in place from 2014 to 2018 — the “U.S. Government Gain-of-Function Deliberative Process and Research Funding Pause on Selected Gain-of-Function Research Involving Influenza, MERS, and SARS viruses” — the definition of gain-of-function research at the time of the experimentsinvolving the Wuhan Institute of Virology included “research that improves the ability of a pathogen to cause disease.”

Grant reports demonstrate that “chimeric” or combined coronaviruses studied by EcoHealth and the Wuhan Institute of Virology caused more severe disease in mice engineered to express human receptors than the backbone virus.

However, Tabak downplayed the risk posed by these chimeric viruses because they were bat coronaviruses, though the public literature described one of these viruses as “poised for human emergence.”

Fauci repeatedly denied that NIAID funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan in high-profile exchanges with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., in 2021.

“Sen. Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly, and I want to say that officially,” Fauci said in a July 2021 hearing.

Tabak confirmed in the hearing Wednesday that in October 2021 the NIH communications office changed the definition of “gain-of-function research” on the NIH website.

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They were modifying animal viruses to be contagious in humans.
From EcoHealth's website:

https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/w...5/Text-of-Renewal-Grant-–-NIH-R01AI110964-.pdf

What do you think this experiment is trying to do:

3.3 Virus characterization: 3.3.a Construction of chimeric SARSr-CoV viruses: Infectious clones with the S gene of novel SARSr-CoVs and the SARSr-CoV WIV1 genome backbone using the reverse genetic system developed in our previous R01 (24). The correct infectious BAC clones will be screened by BAC DNA digestion with appropriate restriction enzyme or PCR amplification. The chimeric viruses will be rescued in Vero cells and then verified by sequence analyses. Our research group is well versed in coronavirus reverse genetics.
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3.3.b Primary human airway epithelial cell culture: Primary human ciliated airway epithelial cells (HAE)cultures from the lungs of transplant recipients represent highly differentiated human airway epithelium containing ciliated and non-ciliated epithelial and goblet cells, grown on an air-liquid interface for several weeks prior to use (18, 55, 56). We will prepare HAE cultures from three different patient codes in triplicate in collaboration with the tissue procurement facility at the Cystic Fibrosis Center at UNC. Cultures will be inoculated with chimeric bat SARSr-CoVs to assess efficient replication. A
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3.3.c Humanized mouse infection experiments: Briefly, in BSL3, n=5 10- to 20-week old hACE2 transgenic mice will be intranasally inoculated with 1 x 104 PFU of wildtype WIV-1 or chimeric bat SARSr-CoVs with different spike proteins, then monitored daily for weight loss, morbidity, and clinical signs of disease.


https://www.jax.org/strain/034860#

K18-hACE2 transgenic mice express human ACE2, the receptor used by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) to gain cellular entry. The human keratin 18 promoter directs expression to epithelia, including airway epithelia where infections typically begin. Because K18-hACE2 are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV viruses, they are useful for studying antiviral therapies to COVID-19 and SARS.

This proves nothing about whether there was a lab leak. It's useful for scaremongering about legitimate research approaches. Nothing more.

 

[Hammerhead02]

Keep us posted please and thanks!

You need to decide on one. Angry like DeAngelo and misinformation like 97. Roommates?

 

[seminole97]

This proves nothing about whether there was a lab leak. It's useful for scaremongering about legitimate research approaches. Nothing more.

Research so ‘legitimate’ that instead of subject it to the Obama admin’s protocols regarding such research, they laundered it China through EcoHealth Alliance, and outside the review of the HHS P3CO Framework.

Let’s put this another way you might be able to appreciate. The Obama admin instituted workplace safety regulations for this kind of dangerous research. Fauci outsourced the work to China were the regulations were not applied. And now the CIA joins the FBI and Energy Dept in assessing the lab leak is the more likely hypothesis. To you, it’s just a giant coincidence that the place hosting research on making bat corona viruses infections to humans just happened to also be the source of the outbreak of the novel corona virus that Chicom authorities insisted was from wildlife.

 

[Flie]

Has the lab leak theory been proven to be true? Not RFK jr type “proof” where dots are connected using “common sense” but actual proof.

 

[Moral]

Has the lab leak theory has been proven to be true? Not RFK jr type “proof” where dots are connected using “common sense” but actual proof.

Actual proof? No.

 

[seminole97]

Has the lab leak theory been proven to be true? Not RFK jr type “proof” where dots are connected using “common sense” but actual proof.

Yeah, the Chinese signed a confession yesterday.



The proof that exists are the grant requests from EcoHealth alliance to modify corona viruses to be more communicable in humans.
The U.S. started funding the conducting of this research in China after the Obama admin tightened restrictions in the US in 2014.

 

[Flie]

Yeah, the Chinese signed a confession yesterday.



The proof that exists are the grant requests from EcoHealth alliance to modify corona viruses to be more communicable in humans.
The U.S. started funding the conducting of this research in China after the Obama admin tightened restrictions in the US in 2014.

Should change the word proof to evidence to align with reality.

 

[seminole97]

Should change the word proof to evidence to align with reality.

So we have evidence that the Chinese were conducting research to modify bat corona viruses so that they were more communicable in humans and we know this research happened in Wuhan, claimed by the Chinese to be the origin of the outbreak.

What evidence is there for the wet market as a source again?

 

[Flie]

So we have evidence that the Chinese were conducting research to modify bat corona viruses so that they were more communicable in humans and we know this research happened in Wuhan, claimed by the Chinese to be the origin of the outbreak.

What evidence is there for the wet market as a source again?

I’m not advocating for (or invested in) the wet market theory although as it stands, it has the same amount of proof as the lab leak theory. A quick google search shows there is evidence out there for both theories. Political affiliation seems to be the primary determining factor on which theory people tend to believe.

 

[seminole97]

I’m not advocating for (or invested in) the wet market theory although as it stands, it has the same amount of proof as the lab leak theory.

What is the evidence for the wet market as source?

 

[Scott559]

I’m not advocating for (or invested in) the wet market theory although as it stands, it has the same amount of proof as the lab leak theory. A quick google search shows there is evidence out there for both theories. Political affiliation seems to be the primary determining factor on which theory people tend to believe.

What is the evidence for the wet market as source?

As Flie said a quick google search list pro’s and con’s of both theories, What you want to believe is in the eye of the beholder. I fall into the I don’t know what to believe camp.

 

[Flie]

What is the evidence for the wet market as source?

Search results

 

[KFsdisciple]

So we have evidence that the Chinese were conducting research to modify bat corona viruses so that they were more communicable in humans and we know this research happened in Wuhan, claimed by the Chinese to be the origin of the outbreak.

What evidence is there for the wet market as a source again?

Clusters of sick people in the market from what I gather. Because a virus capable of circling the world, couldn’t find its way into a mall 2 miles from a lab or something.

 

[DeangeloVickers]

Has the lab leak theory been proven to be true? Not RFK jr type “proof” where dots are connected using “common sense” but actual proof.

China and those funding these programs made that all but impossible from the start. No one was learning anything about the leak possibilities with China running the show. Even so multiple intell agencies and other countries have said it's the most likely source.

 

[Hammerhead02]

China and those funding these programs made that all but impossible from the start. No one was learning anything about the leak possibilities with China running the show. Even so multiple intell agencies and other countries have said it's the most likely source.

Did you go golfing today?

 

[SalAunese]

Fred Jr and other low information voters only heard one side for 4-6 years due to differing opinions being censored. This is why the pendulum needs to go the other way where they don’t hear any of that misinformation that they read on social media or heard on MSNBC, CNN, NPR, etc.

They now will continue to double down on ignorance.

lol the only people that say that are mouth breathers

 

[RicoSuave102954]

It's the China Virus and Fauci is behind it.