Stop Asian hate, bro!
liability for starters.
This is TDS brain rot on full display. It's incredible how relatively normal people became so obsessed with Trump that their entire system of logical thought collapsed.
I always assumed they wore the masks as a sign of their cult membership (and bc statistics show liberals are generally less physically attractive/have more observable mental health issues than conservatives.)
The US funded the research, and it was moved to China from North Carolina after Obama's EO to end gain of function research in 2014.
How about you read and respond to the post I replied to which was 100% about Trump?!? Clown.
Agreed. It also seems to have taken quite a long time for the "science" to emerge here.
most reasonably objective people know there's only 2 genders, and math isn't racist, but here we are, nevertheless.
It's important because it could determine whether gain of function research continues or not.
i dont' think calling in debts and trading invoices with china would work out well for us
It's important that information be able to be shared freely, and dissenting opinions be able to be expressed without fear or repercussions.
You are spot on.
Frankly, if it was a lab leak... then there's only two possibilities and neither are good.
Curious if you have read this article? Wuhan lab was definitely doing dangerous work in less than safe conditions.
OMG...if ANY entity gins up another health crisis, or two, or three, so as to derail/frustrate Trump, et al, or ANYBODY else, then the remaining credibility of the public health apparatus is going to be absolutely shredded. ALL MANNER of people will pay NO heed to any regulations, etc, nor will they believe anything told to them.
Yes never had we had a disease come from a wet market or from animal transmission. And never have we discovered the source decades later or never. May want to look into Ebola and Marburg. I am not saying it couldn't have come from a lab. However to say definitively one way or another without any scientific support seems short sighted. I remain open minded leaning towards animal due to the the location zero of the disease.
LOL, this coming from Finance who appears to want to sow distrust with misinformation at every corner.
Clearly it's a hunt for who to blame. Some lab technician or the Chinese government?
Clearly it's a hunt for who to blame. Some lab technician or the Chinese government?
And, of course, Fauci.
There should be a plausible explanation tracking how it came from nature if this were true. There isn't one for covid. The wet market does not explain how the virus got there.
The closest is 1300 miles that they are aware of. There is speculation similar versions could be in caves not yet discovered, or someone transported a bat from the cave or location.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Willingly? You make it sound like that was a choice. Trump made himself look bad repeatedly all on his own. Here’s a thought. - maybe POTUS shouldn’t have been speaking at almost every Covid presser and had no idea what he was talking about.
Those are two extremes. Also possible that the process was good, but someone screwed up, faulty equipment, etc. it doesn’t necessarily follow that experts screwed up. We simply don’t know enough, and we’re frankly not likely to get that info from china anytime soon. They’re almost as stubborn as Trump when it comes to admitting mistakes.
China has not been forthcoming with information about the spread. They downplayed things up until the new year, then it spread rapidly.The closest is 1300 miles that they are aware of. There is speculation similar versions could be in caves not yet discovered, or someone transported a bat from the cave or location.
Yes you bring up an argument, but then you should have patient 0 in the lab escape. Effectively you are stating a scientist was infected and then would have spread quickly throughout other scientists, their families and others. That didn't occur here, the wet market is effectively the epicenter, then growing from there. So you are either stating they had infected bat they sold at the wet center, 2 they had a scientist who was sick, that didn't get any other employees or family sick, but went to the wet market? Or stating the chinese manipulated the data. A couple non chinese scientists have stated no one seemed to get sick at the lab. Now whether you think they are lying, I tend to take it as fact unless proven otherwise.
Both are plausible explanations and possibilities, I still lean more towards natural. I don't think you will have anyone agree unless there is a smoking gun.
The below article and research was done in 2006.
Infectious diseases emerging from Chinese wet-markets: zoonotic origins of severe respiratory viral infections - PMC
In China, close contacts between humans and food animals have resulted in the transmission of many microbes from animals to humans. The two most notable infectious diseases in recent years are severe acute respiratory syndrome and avian influenza. ...
Purpose of review
In China, close contacts between humans and food animals have resulted in the transmission of many microbes from animals to humans. The two most notable infectious diseases in recent years are severe acute respiratory syndrome and avian influenza. In this review, these two severe zoonotic viral infections transmitted by the respiratory route, with pandemic potential, are used as models to illustrate the role of Chinese wet-markets in their emergence, amplification and dissemination.
Recent findings
Two research groups independently discovered the presence of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-like viruses in horseshoe bats. An astonishing diversity of coronaviruses was also discovered in different species of bats. For the recent and still ongoing avian influenza H5N1 outbreak that originated in Southeast Asia, from 2003 to 21 April 2006, 204 humans have been infected, with 113 deaths. Most patients had recent direct contacts with poultry.
Summary
In Chinese wet-markets, unique epicenters for transmission of potential viral pathogens, new genes may be acquired or existing genes modified through various mechanisms such as genetic reassortment, recombination and mutation. The wet-markets, at closer proximity to humans, with high viral burden or strains of higher transmission efficiency, facilitate transmission of the viruses to humans.
