After watching his videos his shooting release is eerily similar to that of the great Chris Kingsbury who happened to play ball right up the road from Covington.
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After watching his videos his shooting release is eerily similar to that of the great Chris Kingsbury who happened to play ball right up the road from Covington.
CJF has a quick trigger and competes his ass off. He CMac Weezy they will be fine!
Might want to check out the plus/minus thread or other advanced stats. Also, start watching what guys are doing when they don't have the ball. Hint: Baer was seldom standing flat footed.
Or maybe these high level college coaches have not watched every game Moss has played for several years, and as such only see the good and not the bad.
I think Baer’s strong metrics support the way Fran used him. He may not have been the best overall player, but if each player had a role, Baer was the best at his... if that makes sense.
There may be a case for him being MVP
Baer gave more effort than anyone else on the team, that's not even debatable
Not gonna argue, but I’ll add that Garza is probably the only one even close.
Baer was a great ball player and even better guy. He will be missed on the team. Gave a lot of passion and came up with serious clutch 3's. But to say he was mvp is a little wacky.
I think the coaches squeezed as much potential out of Baer as was humanly possible. Great shooter, good defender, but he couldn't do a lot with the ball in his hands. He didn't need to start and probably played an appropriate amount of minutes. He was your perfect 6th-man. Spiritual MVP, probably. Actual MVP, probably not.
Now he needs to gain strength like Kingsbury that dude was ripped
I always thought he looked like a wrestler playing basketball. Unreal.
I hope CJF is more disciplined both on and off the court.
That’s one thing Fran’s players haven’t seem to have had much issue with - off the court problems.
The Center was going to go to Xavier for b-ball. He instead is looking at prison time for sexual assault.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...xavier-commit-charged-rape-sodomy/2283381002/
No doubt Garza gives his all. A significant amount of it on the D end is wasted as it is not well directed, late and results in errors that benefit the opponent.
Baer is a guy with limited athletic ability who succeeded in large part by giving highly efficient effort.
Baer is a guy with limited athletic ability who succeeded in large part by giving highly efficient effort.
OK, so Baer gives more efficient effort? Maybe so. I was responding to the post that stated:
"Baer gave more effort than anyone else on the team, that's not even debatable"
Again, this is just not a true or fair statement Garza has arguably the least athletic ability on the team, far less than Baer, so his consistent effort is paramount to his strong output IMO.
The Baer did consistently play harder than the other guys. Superb example of effort plus BBIQ and instincts. Underrated athlete-victimized by the silly notion that white kids are inferior athletes and his all elbows and knees kind of movement (not Walt Frazier smooth).
However, its not to say the other kids didn't play hard just that no one played harder than the Baer. Luka and TC both played hard, not necessarily smart but certainly not lazy. Moss played hard when his shot was dropping.
However, its not to say the other kids didn't play hard just that no one played harder than the Baer. Luka and TC both played hard, not necessarily smart but certainly not lazy. Moss played hard when his shot was dropping.
we'll have to agree to disagree when it comes to EFFORT. I would say no one played harder than Garza. Baer gives great effort too, but also plays a different position so some of his results are more visible like steals, moving around screens and three point shots. Garza has to do a lot of dirty work down low, and is effective largely through a combination of effort and technique, he has very little athletic ability. He also did not benefit as much as he should have from down low as TC was trying to convert himself into a shooting guard. Baer has natural athletic ability when it comes to blocking shots and steals, as where Garza really has no athletic advantages, especially on defense, where his lack of footwork hurts him significantly. Also, we are not discussing playing smart, Baer is about as good as it gets there. Garza also good on the BBIQ front, but not quite to Baer level.
Agree, that Baer's main advantage was his ability to see the court and instantly assess what play needed to be made. He didn't always have the ability to make the play, but his BB IQ was higher than the others on the team. I think Joe W also has very good BB instincts.
I agree that no one plays harder or cares more about winning than Luka. He just needs to play a lot smarter on defense, because his slow feet will keep him from ever being more than a solid position defender and rebounder on that end. Kriener and Joe W also play hard. Not sure that TC and Moss always played hard, all of the time. I wouldn't say they were lazy, but they both spent a lot of time standing and watching, Moss mostly on offense and Cook mostly on defense.
I agree that no one plays harder or cares more about winning than Luka. He just needs to play a lot smarter on defense, because his slow feet will keep him from ever being more than a solid position defender and rebounder on that end. Kriener and Joe W also play hard. Not sure that TC and Moss always played hard, all of the time. I wouldn't say they were lazy, but they both spent a lot of time standing and watching, Moss mostly on offense and Cook mostly on defense.
Players relative said CJ is real deal and Will do very well
This thread makes no sense to me. If CJ Fiedorowicz is coming back to Iowa, it won't be to play basketball.
This is exactly correct.....this is a big big deal that almost everyone takes for granted because the Iowa basketball program has been doing a great job at citizenship. Fran deserves a ton of credit for this.
Well I guess but if after 10 years the one thing you can point to is one guy driving a moped after a few drinks as the main issue, you are probably running a pretty clean program.
Hell, Izzo has had players and coaches as rapists on his team and nobody talks bad about him.
Jok and Josh O are the only 2 that have been arrested during their careers, right?
McCabe was after his senior year.
So 2 guys in almost 10 years is pretty damn good.
McCabe was after his senior year.
So 2 guys in almost 10 years is pretty damn good.
Both relatively minor incidents, alcohol related incidents common among college aged students, I might add
That is awesome. I've been in handcuffs more than that in the last month
Only two incidents in ten years....unheard of! Fran is recruiting the right kids that’s for sure
What did Ogles and PJ purportedly do? Was in public intox (e.g. "kids do stupid shit")? Big difference between that kind of behavior and evil motivated behavior (stealing, raping, etc...)
Yep not even close to some of the crap some dips pull
Jok got DUI on a moped then later got popped for driving while his license was revoked. Ogles was a PI.
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