CJ's NFL Draft profile....

[HawktimusPrime]

....yes it's tremendously early, and he still has this year and next year to go, as he will most definitely come back barring injury or craziness. I found it interesting though, that he is rated 12 out of 180 QB's. I wonder how this looks after this season, and what his chances really are.

I'd have to say that I like his chances of at least getting a few years in as a backup somewhere once he graduates. He's basically a more athletic Stanzi, though he lacks a bit of Ricky's size.

NOTE: The other QB prospects seem to be right in about he order you would expect with Cook at #1 and Cardale at #2 at this time. So I'm thinking this may be a pretty good measure on where he and others stand. 12 out of 180 is pretty good. He keeps improving and he can easily improve that.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=122008&draftyear=2017&genpos=QB

 

[hawkguy77]

I think CJ compares very favorably to Ricky. He can make all the throws and perhaps has a slightly stronger arm. He is a superior runner and has the knack of knowing when to tuck and run with the ball. 2009 was a magical season until the Northwestern game and this season could be as well.

 

[cedarvalleykid14]

I'm a Stanzi fan, and Ricky had an outstanding Iowa career, but CJ Beathard is already at a whole different level. Two years ago Podolak compared CJ's arm to Joe Namath. By the time CJ leaves Iowa, he will be a first-round NFL draft choice, not a clipboard carrier.

 

[StormHawk42]

Will his size hurt him much? Idk enough about what scouts want in QB's, but most of the elite guys are 6'4+, with the exception of Brees.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Will his size hurt him much? Idk enough about what scouts want in QB's, but most of the elite guys are 6'4+, with the exception of Brees.

His mobility helps to make up for that. He reminds of Aaron Rodgers to a certain extent. Strong arm, quick release, can move when he needs to. Not nearly as polished mechanically as Rodgers, but he can definitely work on that. He seems to have great instincts at QB. Very sharp in how he approaches the game.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Will his size hurt him much? Idk enough about what scouts want in QB's, but most of the elite guys are 6'4+, with the exception of Brees.

Rodgers is only 6'2, Wilson is under 6ft as well. I don't think Alex Smith is more than 6'2".

 

[Bearhawk0505]

CJ has a stronger arm than Stanzi. However, Stanzi was great at putting more air under his deep throws. CJ can make deep out throws Stanzi could not make as well. As I wrote about before the season, CJ has the best release and strongest arm I have seen at Iowa. The 1st Qb I can remember is Long.

 

[whatsup12579er]

I would say CJB has a much stronger arm than Stanzi. As Peyton Manning is proving late in his career, a strong arm isn't the only thing that makes a good QB.

 

[bigfridaynite]

Rodgers is only 6'2, Wilson is under 6ft as well. I don't think Alex Smith is more than 6'2".

The guy covering the game Saturday said he seen a lot of Colt McCoy in CJ.
I thought he was spot on imo.

 

[C/Seahawk]

I think CJ compares very favorably to Ricky. He can make all the throws and perhaps has a slightly stronger arm. He is a superior runner and has the knack of knowing when to tuck and run with the ball. 2009 was a magical season until the Northwestern game and this season could be as well.

Will his size hurt him much? Idk enough about what scouts want in QB's, but most of the elite guys are 6'4+, with the exception of Brees.

I'm certainly no expert, but I suspect CJB's size is adequate as it relates to the NFL if his reported 6'2 height is accurate. He has a plus arm so that will draw a great deal of interest as will his training in a pro style offense.

What has really impressed me so far this season is he is making all the throws and doing it with an incredibly quick release. Whether it is a long out to the opposite side of the field, crossing route over the middle, deep fades/posts or a quick hitting bubble screen, he is getting the ball out quickly and accurately. He also displays a willingness to hang in the pocket to allow his receivers routes to develop, somewhat rare for QB's these days. Some QB's have the God given ability to just sling the rock and CJ appears to be in that category. We have a good one folks, lets enjoy the ride!

 

[C/Seahawk]

CJ has a stronger arm than Stanzi. However, Stanzi was great at putting more air under his deep throws. CJ can make deep out throws Stanzi could not make as well. As I wrote about before the season, CJ has the best release and strongest arm I have seen at Iowa. The 1st Qb I can remember is Long.

Long had an incredible career at Iowa and a quick release as you mentioned, but I wouldn't consider arm strength as one of his top attributes. He was accurate, but his ball fluttered a lot and I think lack of arm strength become apparent once he got into the NFL. Vlasic had a bigger arm than Long, that guy could throw the deep ball well from what I remember.

When CJ plants his back foot and rifles the football, its a thing of beauty, that ball just seems to explode out of his hand, on a different level than most college QB's.

 

[bagdropper]

CJ has a stronger arm than Stanzi. However, Stanzi was great at putting more air under his deep throws. CJ can make deep out throws Stanzi could not make as well. As I wrote about before the season, CJ has the best release and strongest arm I have seen at Iowa. The 1st Qb I can remember is Long.

Mark Vlasic I'd say is the best in my lifetime for Iowa QB's in an NFL tools aspect. I'd argue he was a better NFL prospect than Long was, too - in retrospect of course. Not meant as a hit on Chuck...and certainly the abuse Long took at Detroit hindered his NFL potential.

But Pickle had a cannon by Iowa standards.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

CJB's Talent > Stanzi Talent

CJB has two things that you just can not teach, Arm Strength and Mobility....both of which Stanzi lacked....his arm strength was not bad, but not close to elite either....Stanzi's was also below average on mobility. Love/loved stanzi but he was also not the best decision maker either....no idea how we won so many games when he threw so many picks, but Stanzi also had that "it" factor that CJB seems to have

 

[millah_22]

What will depend on if he leaves after this year or stays: is if he can develop pocket awareness, hit small windows, and make NFL throws.

He has been a sensational QB, hopefully he keeps it up in Big Ten play.

 

[ichawk24]

I hope Iowa has such an awesome season that CJB goes pro.

 

[QChawks]

I hope Iowa has such an awesome season that CJB goes pro.

This

 

[C/Seahawk]

What will depend on if he leaves after this year or stays: is if he can develop pocket awareness, hit small windows, and make NFL throws.

He has been a sensational QB, hopefully he keeps it up in Big Ten play.

purely speculating, but I would guess there is about a 1% chance

I hope Iowa has such an awesome season that CJB goes pro.

I just don't see it regardless of how well he and/or Iowa does. Its easy to forget that CJB has only started 5 games while at Iowa. I think even if CJB were to earn all conference recognition and was projected as a mid to late round pick, he comes back for his final year of eligibility to not only win more games at Iowa, but also improve his draft stock. But I get your point, hopefully he has a magical year that leads to intense speculation about his future, much like I suspect Desmond King will deal with this off-season.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

purely speculating, but I would guess there is about a 1% chance


I just don't see it regardless of how well he and/or Iowa does. Its easy to forget that CJB has only started 5 games while at Iowa. I think even if CJB were to earn all conference recognition and was projected as a mid to late round pick, he comes back for his final year of eligibility to not only win more games at Iowa, but also improve his draft stock. But I get your point, hopefully he has a magical year that leads to intense speculation about his future, much like I suspect Desmond King will deal with this off-season.

I'll be surprised if King is here next season. I think only an untimely injury will stop him from declaring.

 

[icu81222]

CJB will be a first rounder next year. He has "it" IMO

-He has as strong of an arm as anyone at any level.

-He can make all the throws but admittedly needs a bit of work on long ball touch. I think he has the ability, just hasn't found it yet.

-When it comes to making certain throws, he is a lot like Favre in that he can throw at weird angles and off balance and get rid of it quick. that is hard to teach and is a huge asset at the next level.

-He is very mobile and athletic and has good pocket awareness.

-He comes from the Iowa system as a FB player. That carries a lot of weight these days even at the QB position despite Iowa not churning out that many NFL QB's. Yet if he sticks in the NFL, 2 of the last 3 will have.

That willingness to work and put in the time and not be a character risk is huge. Add in that he is pretty unflappable and I like his chances.

Watching all these games the past 4 or 5 weeks, I've yet to see a QB with more tools. Even Cook doesn't look as good IMO

 

[whatsup12579er]

I'll be surprised if King is here next season. I think only an untimely injury will stop him from declaring.

I'm pretty sure King said before the season that there was no chance of him leaving school early. Getting his degree is very important to him.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

I'm pretty sure King said before the season that there was no chance of him leaving school early. Getting his degree is very important to him.

He did go on record saying this
Also, lets hold off on CJB being drafted and especially the talk of him leaving early. He has started a total of 5 games and the only Big10 game is Purdue......do I think he will get drafted, yes....but lets pump the brakes a bit....the more film teams have on CJB the more difficult it is, that is why the "sophmore" slump exists, teams get a full year of film on the player....

 

[bagdropper]

Jebus people, pump the brakes a bit here.

CJ Beathard will not be a first rounder next year. I'd be willing to bet he won't be in the 2017 draft either.

5 starts total. Not one of them against an elite defense. He plays with a line that while improving is still vulnerable, and he still has a little bit too much "more bravery than brains" in him yet.

I still believe Iowa's going to need Wiegers at some point this year. The beatings will pile up and CJB might not be the same QB after they accumulate, let alone if he gets injured.

He just these last two games showed us in a couple plays that he might be NFL material (the bomb to Smith last week, the slide saving the final 2 seconds in the Pitt game). Long ball arm strength and "game management awareness" critical for all NFL QB's.

He's got a long, long way to go, and is still very raw yet.

Just let the games come one at a time, folks...for the sake and sanity of this board, please...pump the brakes a bit.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

I'm pretty sure King said before the season that there was no chance of him leaving school early. Getting his degree is very important to him.

Nice, if millions start calling his way though, he can always just finish the degree later on.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Jebus people, pump the brakes a bit here.

CJ Beathard will not be a first rounder next year. I'd be willing to bet he won't be in the 2017 draft either.

5 starts total. Not one of them against an elite defense. He plays with a line that while improving is still vulnerable, and he still has a little bit too much "more bravery than brains" in him yet.

I still believe Iowa's going to need Wiegers at some point this year. The beatings will pile up and CJB might not be the same QB after they accumulate, let alone if he gets injured.

He just these last two games showed us in a couple plays that he might be NFL material (the bomb to Smith last week, the slide saving the final 2 seconds in the Pitt game). Long ball arm strength and "game management awareness" critical for all NFL QB's.

He's got a long, long way to go, and is still very raw yet.

Just let the games come one at a time, folks...for the sake and sanity of this board, please...pump the brakes a bit.

Nah, I'm just going to go ahead and keep doing what I feel like doing. Thanks for the suggestion though. I'm pushing on the pedal hard now.

CJ is the second best NFL prospect in the B1G. Cardale has been lazy and inconsistent. Cook is very much for real and better than Cousins was, though he may not give as good of a speech as Kirk could.

We're peeling out now baby.

 

[mvhomerj]

CJ is the next Brady, with all the air!! Madison first.

 

[Dauminator]

He's showing he has quite the tool set. I was thinking about this recently. What if you took all the best attributes of the better QBs under Ferentz to make the model QB? I venture to say CJ is that model, just running at maybe 85%. If he keeps improving, then I could definitely see him as a draft prospect. Time will tell.

Specifically, these are the QBs who have led Iowa to above average seasons under KF (since KF's average is 7.something per season, these are 8+ win seasons) and their definitive traits.

Banks - playmaking with his legs
Chandler - cannon of an arm (TDs to Ochoa against ASU and Mich were among the prettiest passes I've seen a Hawk make)
Tate - ballz, and slinging it on the run
Stanzi - leadership and that uncanny ability to win no matter what
Rudock - decision making (the 2013 version, remember?)

I see shadows of all these aspects rolled into one when I watch Beathard play. Like I said, if he can develop to where he's at the same levels as these guys, watch out.

 

[hwk23]

Has a KF QB taken a snap in the NFL yet? I'm thinking CJ will be the 1st.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

He's showing he has quite the tool set. I was thinking about this recently. What if you took all the best attributes of the better QBs under Ferentz to make the model QB? I venture to say CJ is that model, just running at maybe 85%. If he keeps improving, then I could definitely see him as a draft prospect. Time will tell.

Specifically, these are the QBs who have led Iowa to above average seasons under KF (since KF's average is 7.something per season, these are 8+ win seasons) and their definitive traits.

Banks - playmaking with his legs
Chandler - cannon of an arm (TDs to Ochoa against ASU and Mich were among the prettiest passes I've seen a Hawk make)
Tate - ballz, and slinging it on the run
Stanzi - leadership and that uncanny ability to win no matter what
Rudock - decision making (the 2013 version, remember?)

I see shadows of all these aspects rolled into one when I watch Beathard play. Like I said, if he can develop to where he's at the same levels as these guys, watch out.

Always wondered how Chandler would have done if he had more time under his belt.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Has a KF QB taken a snap in the NFL yet? I'm thinking CJ will be the 1st.

How many Iowa QB's have ever taken a snap in the NFL.....Chuck Long had decent NFL career with 21 starts but a dismal record of 4-17.....Dan Mcguire had a cup in the NFL but only was on roster for 2 years before tranfering to SD State....any other QB's under Fry play in NFL?

 

[Pepperman]

Has a KF QB taken a snap in the NFL, no wait, PRO BOWL yet? I'm thinking CJ will be the 1st.

I like this better.

Do you guys think he'll look good in his Hall of Fame induction speech?

 

[HawktimusPrime]

I like this better.

Do you guys think he'll look good in his Hall of Fame induction speech?

As long as he doesn't grow his hair out again. It just doesn't work for him IMO. I wonder if he'll win as many Super Bowls as Brady has.

 

[HawkRugged17]

How many Iowa QB's have ever taken a snap in the NFL.....Chuck Long had decent NFL career with 21 starts but a dismal record of 4-17.....Dan Mcguire had a cup in the NFL but only was on roster for 2 years before tranfering to SD State....any other QB's under Fry play in NFL?

Mark Vlasic with a few appearances.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VlasMa00.htm

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Mark Vlasic with a few appearances.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VlasMa00.htm

Good call

 

[hwk23]

How many Iowa QB's have ever taken a snap in the NFL.....Chuck Long had decent NFL career with 21 starts but a dismal record of 4-17.....Dan Mcguire had a cup in the NFL but only was on roster for 2 years before tranfering to SD State....any other QB's under Fry play in NFL?

Mark Vlasic played in 15 NFL games, not sure if there are any others. Randy Duncan was drafted #1 by Green Bay but never played.

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

Chuck Long was just another victim of the Lions incredibly bad offensive line. He was hit of the week three weeks in a row when CBS used that award. The last of those weeks Lions v. Jets. Gastineau was left uncovered and then just sprinted into Chuck's blind side. Very slow to get up. Next play same thing. No one even tried to block Gastineau who again sprinted into Chuck's back. Didn't get up from that one.

CJ is playing well. Better to not jinx that with dreams of NFL play. Gotta say that the kid is playing very well and hoping he keeps it up.

 

[TouchdownHawks]

Let's see what he does in conference play! Wiscy will be a great test for him...they have more film and time to game plan... This and Northwestern will ultimately tell us how special he is... Decision making and ball control will be huge.. I anticipate he'll be under more pressure and I'm sure players are told to strip or find the ball on the rush because CJB eyes are downfield and slow to pick up defenders...

 

[Legend12]

Chuck Long was just another victim of the Lions incredibly bad offensive line. He was hit of the week three weeks in a row when CBS used that award. The last of those weeks Lions v. Jets. Gastineau was left uncovered and then just sprinted into Chuck's blind side. Very slow to get up. Next play same thing. No one even tried to block Gastineau who again sprinted into Chuck's back. Didn't get up from that one.

 

[yiana]

He's not some spread bitch either. And LOL at Jeremy Johnson being rated higher.

 

[PhantomFlyer]

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How in the world do you let a great pass rusher, like Gastineau, come in unblocked?

 

[TS568]

CJ Beathard is quite simply the best football player I've ever seen.