CNN: 26% democrats believe income inquality is most important...

[thewop]

Last night I saw CNN showing a poll of most important issues for each party. On the Democratic Side, there were 3 issues which were "most important" to over 25% of people, but the one that shocked me was that 26% said income inequality was their MOST important issue! Wow, more important than the Ecomony/Jobs, more important than Terrorism, and I don't remember the 4th option.

In other words, 26% of people are more concerned that some people (1%) make "too much" money than they are that we have a successful economy. This is a sad state of affairs, Jealousy is dictating the view of a full 1/4 of one of the two major parties. Now, that's only about 12% of the population, but wow. The mindset of many is totally warped.

I believe 30% was the leader on the Democratic side, and it was Jobs/Economy, and that's perfectly reasonable, why wouldn't it be? The question was "what's most important to you?"

On the R side, Jobs/Economy, Terrorism both had over 25%, and immigration was lower than I would have guessed, though they don't feel it as much in Iowa as many in the rest of the country.

 

[Vroom_C14]

Our founders left Europe for a reason. Let's leave the EU model in the EU. I am totally okay that people make more money than I do, if not for it what would there be to strive for? Much like growing up playing sports, when someone is better than you you have a choice; quit and say it isn't fair or work harder to get to where you want to be (and yes there will be obstacle, barriers, etc along the way).

 

[INXS83]

Last night I saw CNN showing a poll of most important issues for each party. On the Democratic Side, there were 3 issues which were "most important" to over 25% of people, but the one that shocked me was that 26% said income inequality was their MOST important issue! Wow, more important than the Ecomony/Jobs, more important than Terrorism, and I don't remember the 4th option.

In other words, 26% of people are more concerned that some people (1%) make "too much" money than they are that we have a successful economy. This is a sad state of affairs, Jealousy is dictating the view of a full 1/4 of one of the two major parties. Now, that's only about 12% of the population, but wow. The mindset of many is totally warped.

I believe 30% was the leader on the Democratic side, and it was Jobs/Economy, and that's perfectly reasonable, why wouldn't it be? The question was "what's most important to you?"

On the R side, Jobs/Economy, Terrorism both had over 25%, and immigration was lower than I would have guessed, though they don't feel it as much in Iowa as many in the rest of the country.

I got a kick out of watching the youngsters campaigning for Bernie hoping he gets elected to get them free college in a couple years. It hasn't dawned on them they'll eventually get taxed to death to pay for it. The rich won't put up with the tax. They'll either leave America or just stop re-investing in America and the economy will crash. Same for Medicare or Medicaid for all; all paid by future income tax increases. The interest on the debt has to be paid.

 

[sijoint]

Our founders left Europe for a reason. Let's leave the EU model in the EU. I am totally okay that people make more money than I do, if not for it what would there be to strive for? Much like growing up playing sports, when someone is better than you you have a choice; quit and say it isn't fair or work harder to get to where you want to be (and yes there will be obstacle, barriers, etc along the way).

Yup, a political ploy/strategy continually used by politicians, (mostly Democrats) to get your votes. "they (corporations,oil companies, Wall Street, rich Republicans, whites, law enforcement, your boss blah, blah) are taking advantage of you, are discriminating against you. But. "I will defend you, I will fight for you," just elect me.

 

[SSG T]

Life isn't fair, deal with it.

 

[The Tradition]

Government-enforced income equality will mean that everybody is equally poor.

 

[Funky Bunch]

Iowans are a bunch of poors

 

[Titanhawk2]

Last night I saw CNN showing a poll of most important issues for each party. On the Democratic Side, there were 3 issues which were "most important" to over 25% of people, but the one that shocked me was that 26% said income inequality was their MOST important issue! Wow, more important than the Ecomony/Jobs, more important than Terrorism, and I don't remember the 4th option.

In other words, 26% of people are more concerned that some people (1%) make "too much" money than they are that we have a successful economy. This is a sad state of affairs, Jealousy is dictating the view of a full 1/4 of one of the two major parties. Now, that's only about 12% of the population, but wow. The mindset of many is totally warped.

I believe 30% was the leader on the Democratic side, and it was Jobs/Economy, and that's perfectly reasonable, why wouldn't it be? The question was "what's most important to you?"

On the R side, Jobs/Economy, Terrorism both had over 25%, and immigration was lower than I would have guessed, though they don't feel it as much in Iowa as many in the rest of the country.

Because bringing high earners down to our level helps who?

 

[Hawk in SEC Country]

Yup, a political ploy/strategy continually used by politicians, (mostly Democrats) to get your votes. "they (corporations,oil companies, Wall Street, rich Republicans, whites, law enforcement, your boss blah, blah) are taking advantage of you, are discriminating against you. But. "I will defend you, I will fight for you," just elect me.

And it's all bullshit, because their pockets and hands are wide open to the banks, Wall Street and corporations they say they are protecting you from.

 

[Nat Algren]

And all this has happened under Democrat control? Imagine that. The R's as well.

 

[N_fuego]

Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember anyone talking about income inequality before POTUS 44.

 

[joelbc1]

wop...you are ignorant.
Absolutely income disparity is the #1 problem in America today. And the gap is getting wider and wider. I have personally believed this for 10 years. Jobs and economy are symptoms of income disparity, "Security".....buy folks a night light.
You get folks working and working in jobs that can provide for them and a family and you will note many things in life become manageable.
What first impressed me about Bernie Sanders...I watched Bernie 4 years ago on Bill Moyer's program on IPBN and he talked about income disparity being the primary issue in this nation. That is why Bernie is as popular as any of the candidates running for POTUS. Income disparity is a big deal.

 

[The Tradition]

wop...you are ignorant.
Absolutely income disparity is the #1 problem in America today. And the gap is getting wider and wider. I have personally believed this for 10 years. Jobs and economy are symptoms of income disparity, "Security".....buy folks a night light.
You get folks working and working in jobs that can provide for them and a family and you will note many things in life become manageable.
What first impressed me about Bernie Sanders...I watched Bernie 4 years ago on Bill Moyer's program on IPBN and he talked about income disparity being the primary issue in this nation. That is why Bernie is as popular as any of the candidates running for POTUS. Income disparity is a big deal.

Only for envious people.

I suppose if enough of them get their pitchforks and torches out, it's a problem. But the cure will be worse than the disease....

 

[zwick99]

When are Dems going to address the work ethic inequality and parenting 101?


You can't redistribute brains and work ethics.

 

[SL Hawk Fan]

Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember anyone talking about income inequality before POTUS 44.

Yeah, I think you did miss it. Income inequality has been a growing problem since the Reagan administration.

It is a concern to me, as well, but not for the reason you and the others have mentioned. While I'm fortunate enough to not have to worry about where my next meal is coming from, I still find it alarming that a larger and larger portion of our society is living below the poverty level.

When enough people have nothing left to lose, that's when real revolutions/revolts take place. So yes, I am definitely concerned about the growing gap between the haves and the have nots and I hope that we can address the situation before our society reaches the tipping point.

If you're okay with the Wall Street Journal as a source on this topic, you can follow the link to more information.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiArIHjvNrKAhXhyIMKHW9uDHUQjRwIBw&url=http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/01/01/what-we-know-about-inequality-in-14-charts/&psig=AFQjCNETTbmfZAXWmeMjOZWYFs2J3imniQ&ust=1454550402071720

 

[joelbc1]

Only for envious people.

I suppose if enough of them get their pitchforks and torches out, it's a problem. But the cure will be worse than the disease....

envious has nothing to do with it. Ever since Reagan and his tax reform, income inequity has snowballed. Look it up...it is a fact. There are other causes true....but look at the correlation between tax reform and the lost of income in the middle class.
When we allow multimillionaires to be taxed at a rate less than Security Guard, something is wrong.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

Last night I saw CNN showing a poll of most important issues for each party. On the Democratic Side, there were 3 issues which were "most important" to over 25% of people, but the one that shocked me was that 26% said income inequality was their MOST important issue! Wow, more important than the Ecomony/Jobs, more important than Terrorism, and I don't remember the 4th option.

In other words, 26% of people are more concerned that some people (1%) make "too much" money than they are that we have a successful economy. This is a sad state of affairs, Jealousy is dictating the view of a full 1/4 of one of the two major parties. Now, that's only about 12% of the population, but wow. The mindset of many is totally warped.

I believe 30% was the leader on the Democratic side, and it was Jobs/Economy, and that's perfectly reasonable, why wouldn't it be? The question was "what's most important to you?"

On the R side, Jobs/Economy, Terrorism both had over 25%, and immigration was lower than I would have guessed, though they don't feel it as much in Iowa as many in the rest of the country.

And the democrats have absolutely no plan to change income ineqaulity other than have the rich give more money to the government. Giving money to the government will not help these voters at all. I read Billaries economic plan, and to be blunt, it appears that democrats have absolutely no clue about finances. They actually believe that they can change the way people invest, so if they do get power, look for the future to get really bad. Democrats think with emotion (just like women) and never think with logic.

 

[The Tradition]

When we allow multimillionaires to be taxed at a rate less than Security Guard, something is wrong.

Mythological liberal trope.

Your argument is simple class warfare. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[joelbc1]

And the democrats have absolutely no plan to change income ineqaulity other than have the rich give more money to the government. Giving money to the government will not help these voters at all. I read Billaries economic plan, and to be blunt, it appears that democrats have absolutely no clue about finances. They actually believe that they can change the way people invest, so if they do get power, look for the future to get really bad. Democrats think with emotion (just like women) and never think with logic.

Tax laws are certainly one way this can be established.

 

[joelbc1]

Mythological liberal trope.

Your argument is simple class warfare. Nothing more, nothing less.

As Karl Marx said the real war is. However, when those with nothing get less what do think might happen? Nowadays, more and more, fewer get more and many more do with less and less. If you think this is not a problem...or a product of the economic system, you are more ignorant than you let on to be.

 

[Mattski]

envious has nothing to do with it. Ever since Reagan and his tax reform, income inequity has snowballed. Look it up...it is a fact. There are other causes true....but look at the correlation between tax reform and the lost of income in the middle class.
When we allow multimillionaires to be taxed at a rate less than Security Guard, something is wrong.

Your last point is 100% false and you know it. Its also why most level headed folks know libs can't be honest on this discussion.

 

[The Tradition]

As Karl Marx said the real war is. However, when those with nothing get less what do think might happen? Nowadays, more and more, fewer get more and many more do with less and less. If you think this is not a problem...or a product of the economic system, you are more ignorant than you let on to be.

Again with the BS. There are more opportunities in this country than ever before. There are literally hundreds of job titles that didn't exist 20 or 30 years ago. New cars are selling at record levels. This would suggest that record numbers of ordinary people can somehow afford a new car.

This revolution will be fought in $100 Nikes.

 

[theiacowtipper]

And the democrats have absolutely no plan to change income ineqaulity other than have the rich give more money to the government. Giving money to the government will not help these voters at all. I read Billaries economic plan, and to be blunt, it appears that democrats have absolutely no clue about finances. They actually believe that they can change the way people invest, so if they do get power, look for the future to get really bad. Democrats think with emotion (just like women) and never think with logic.

Can you tell me how MASSIVE tax cuts for the top 10% will help the bottom 10%? That is every viable Republicans plan.

 

[The Tradition]

Can you tell me how MASSIVE tax cuts for the top 10% will help the bottom 10%? That is every viable Republicans plan.

Well, some (not all) will use that money that wasn't confiscated by the government to start new businesses (or expand existing ones) creating economic growth and jobs.

You act like the government will do something good for people with the money if they get a hold of it.

 

[joelbc1]

Well, some (not all) will use that money that wasn't confiscated by the government to start new businesses (or expand existing ones) creating economic growth and jobs.

You act like the government will do something good for people with the money if they get a hold of it.

Trad...trickle down just doesn't work. Take the money from those who have it and spend it (on infrastructure) that provides jobs and meaningful wages and let that money filter down thru the economic system. That is what provides jobs and a thriving economy.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

Trad...trickle down just doesn't work. Take the money from those who have it and spend it (on infrastructure) that provides jobs and meaningful wages and let that money filter down thru the economic system. That is what provides jobs and a thriving economy.

Better yet,spend the money on the defense industry. Defense spending creates high paying job that are permanent, infrastructure spending creates temporary jobs.

 

[The Tradition]

Trad...trickle down just doesn't work. Take the money from those who have it and spend it (on infrastructure) that provides jobs and meaningful wages and let that money filter down thru the economic system. That is what provides jobs and a thriving economy.

Trickle down doesn't work? Who the hell do you think creates jobs? Poor people?

You think the government is efficient on infrastructure? Hahahaha... the infrastructure our wonderful government has been providing and managing is crumbling. Guess that means we need to give them even more money to mismanage, huh?

Let private companies build roads and bridges without union "prevailing wage" scales and affirmative action rules, and watch our infrastructure get fixed lickety-split.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

Tax laws are certainly one way this can be established.

Seriously, people actually believe that shit?

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Can you tell me how MASSIVE tax cuts for the top 10% will help the bottom 10%? That is every viable Republicans plan.

You know someone with a taxable income of 232K pays the 39.6 rate or 92,000? I know you understand that the same person also pays state and local tax, FICA and Medicare, sales tax and property tax if you are fortunate to have one in the Obama economy. There are only 7 tax brackets for 2015. How much do you want the government to take? I have not heard anyone advocating MASSIVE tax cuts for the top 10%. No One.

Why was there ever a Great Depression? You do know that the top tax rates from 1928 through the late 1940's ranged from 63% to 88% don't you? Why were there people in soup lines and unemployment @ 25% when the rich were contributing almost all of their income to the government? The left's simplistic links that jump from correlation to causation never hold up under scrutiny.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/12/the_twinkie_economist_looks_at_the_1950s.html

 

[CeMar_Clone]

You know someone with a taxable income of 232K pays the 39.6 rate or 92,000? I know you understand that the same person also pays state and local tax, FICA and Medicare, sales tax and property tax if you are fortunate to have one in the Obama economy. There are only 7 tax brackets for 2015. How much do you want the government to take? I have not heard anyone advocating MASSIVE tax cuts for the top 10%. No One.

Why was there ever a Great Depression? You do know that the top tax rates from 1928 through the late 1940's ranged from 63% to 88% don't you? Why were there people in soup lines and unemployment @ 25% when the rich were contributing almost all of their income to the government? The left's simplistic links that jump from correlation to causation never hold up under scrutiny.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/12/the_twinkie_economist_looks_at_the_1950s.html

Surveys have shown that people believe that 25% is a fair tax rate, and yet most middle class people and above pay far more in taxes.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Nobody, in 1900, speculating on the future of government, could have imagined the astonishing growth and scope of government in the 20th century. Nor would they have imagined that, for many people, this gigantic government would seem the very essence of efficiency, compassion, and modernity. But the reason that government has got so big is not, as many claim, the weight of armaments and wars. Instead the money goes for health care, education, pensions, and welfare programs. You can see how it all happened in the United States in the charts below.

Government spending in the United States has steadily increased from seven percent of GDP in 1902 to almost 40 percent today.

Defense spending in the United States has fluctuated in the last century, rising from one percent of GDP, peaking at 41 percent in World War II, declining from 10 percent in the Cold War to five percent today.

Government spending on education has expanded from about one percent of GDP in 1900 to peak at 6 percent in the second decade of the 21st century.

Government did not intervene significantly in the provision of health care until the passage of Medicare and Medicaid in the mid 1960s. Since then government health care has increased to around 7 percent of GDP.

Revenues in 2015 are projected to be over 6.1 Trillion dollars and it will still not be enough to satisfy the leftist's thirst for more. This amount is the most revenue ever collected by the government but it will definitely not be enough for the Donkeycrats. They will cry about all the shortfalls for their pet peeve projects and if they follow through on free college education and healthcare, we will need another 2 trillion/per year to cover the cost.

Great site for actual government activity: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/past_spending

 

[CeMar_Clone]

You know someone with a taxable income of 232K pays the 39.6 rate or 92,000? I know you understand that the same person also pays state and local tax, FICA and Medicare, sales tax and property tax if you are fortunate to have one in the Obama economy. There are only 7 tax brackets for 2015. How much do you want the government to take? I have not heard anyone advocating MASSIVE tax cuts for the top 10%. No One.

Why was there ever a Great Depression? You do know that the top tax rates from 1928 through the late 1940's ranged from 63% to 88% don't you? Why were there people in soup lines and unemployment @ 25% when the rich were contributing almost all of their income to the government? The left's simplistic links that jump from correlation to causation never hold up under scrutiny.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/12/the_twinkie_economist_looks_at_the_1950s.html

Democrats are always telling us they are only raising taxes on those that make 250K, but in reality people start losing things like the college tax credits around 110K. In Cedar Rapids, a typical couple where both have a college degree are going to make well over the 110K. Heck, I know kids straight out of ISU that just got hired for 65K a year at age 22. Lets face it, the democrats represent the poor, not the middle class.

 

[naturalmwa]

Trickle down doesn't work? Who the hell do you think creates jobs? Poor people?

You think the government is efficient on infrastructure? Hahahaha... the infrastructure our wonderful government has been providing and managing is crumbling. Guess that means we need to give them even more money to mismanage, huh?

Let private companies build roads and bridges without union "prevailing wage" scales and affirmative action rules, and watch our infrastructure get fixed lickety-split.

Yes, consumers with disposable income create jobs, hence the logic of mandating a living wage so that the lower classes have the money to drive the economy. Even the rich do better in that environment.

 

[naturalmwa]

Democrats are always telling us they are only raising taxes on those that make 250K, but in reality people start losing things like the college tax credits around 110K. In Cedar Rapids, a typical couple where both have a college degree are going to make well over the 110K. Heck, I know kids straight out of ISU that just got hired for 65K a year at age 22. Lets face it, the democrats represent the poor, not the middle class.

I wish you cons would get your talking points organized. Just the other day Ds were accused of representing the rich. Discuss amongst yourselves and let us know which way you want to argue.

 

[2facedboonefan]

Anyone who lists terrorism as the county's number one concern really needs to get away from right wing media. It's not just wrong, it's irrational. I mean, are you really worried about ISIS? Really?

The economy affects a hell of a lot more people. Income inequality is a big deal because we're giving Big Business too much control over our lives. At least "Big Government" is supposed to be representative. When Big Business buys Big Government, then we have a problem.

 

[CeMar_Clone]

Yes, consumers with disposable income create jobs, hence the logic of mandating a living wage so that the lower classes have the money to drive the economy. Even the rich do better in that environment.

If you are an adult working for minimum wage, you are a freaking moron, and that is YOUR fault, not mine. My teenage sons don't work for minimum wage.

 

[KitingHigh]

Surveys have shown that people believe that 25% is a fair tax rate, and yet most middle class people and above pay far more in taxes.

Not federal income taxes. Very few people pay an effective rate that high and those who do are officially past middle class and need better accountants. Even with modest deductions one can pull in well over $250,000 and pay less than a 25% effective rate.

 

[TexMichFan]

You have the Democrats that are running for office telling us all about income inequality and how bad it is well the Democrat who holds the Presidency telling us he has engineer one of the best recoveries in history and the economy is producing a high level of great jobs and all is well.

 

[Big Hawk D-Port]

Nobody, in 1900, speculating on the future of government, could have imagined the astonishing growth and scope of government in the 20th century. Nor would they have imagined that, for many people, this gigantic government would seem the very essence of efficiency, compassion, and modernity. But the reason that government has got so big is not, as many claim, the weight of armaments and wars. Instead the money goes for health care, education, pensions, and welfare programs. You can see how it all happened in the United States in the charts below.

Government spending in the United States has steadily increased from seven percent of GDP in 1902 to almost 40 percent today.

Defense spending in the United States has fluctuated in the last century, rising from one percent of GDP, peaking at 41 percent in World War II, declining from 10 percent in the Cold War to five percent today.

Government spending on education has expanded from about one percent of GDP in 1900 to peak at 6 percent in the second decade of the 21st century.

Government did not intervene significantly in the provision of health care until the passage of Medicare and Medicaid in the mid 1960s. Since then government health care has increased to around 7 percent of GDP.

Revenues in 2015 are projected to be over 6.1 Trillion dollars and it will still not be enough to satisfy the leftist's thirst for more. This amount is the most revenue ever collected by the government but it will definitely not be enough for the Donkeycrats. They will cry about all the shortfalls for their pet peeve projects and if they follow through on free college education and healthcare, we will need another 2 trillion/per year to cover the cost.

Great site for actual government activity: http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/past_spending

Posts like this, where someone actually brings data to an argument, are in too short of supply on HROT.

 

[Tom Paris]

Well, some (not all) will use that money that wasn't confiscated by the government to start new businesses (or expand existing ones) creating economic growth and jobs.

You act like the government will do something good for people with the money if they get a hold of it.

And where exactly are they going to start those businesses? Please tell me you don't think "America". I see both sides of this. I don't have a problem with people who make millions. Awesome for them. I don't like giving handouts either. I have a problem with those who rig a system, out of pure greed, to make more and more...and it costs everybody else, including you and me, more and more. I don't care for unnecessarily being ripped off. The Republicans and Democrats BOTH protect these greedy bastards.