CNN: 26% democrats believe income inquality is most important...

[jamesvanderwulf]

spend it on something....there were only a couple of "shovel ready" programs...but the money was never there to finance others, either....But allowing the rich to keep an inordinate share of money does no one any good. Rich don't spend it like poors would for groceries, RX, gasoline and the like....

Love the way the Socialist's brain functions. They wonder how much they should allow a private citizen to keep of his own money. How many ways can I slice the pie up instead of baking a bigger pie? The government pie this year is 6.1 Trillion dollars, bigger than any point in history, somehow I feel you will say it's not big enough.

 

[joelbc1]

Love the way the Socialist's brain functions. They wonder how much they should allow a private citizen to keep of his own money. How many ways can I slice the pie up instead of baking a bigger pie? The government pie this year is 6.1 Trillion dollars, bigger than any point in history, somehow I feel you will say it's not big enough.

water, sewers, garbage and streets aren't important?

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Democrats believe that income equality is the biggest issue. Is that why Hilliary Clinton is still in first place?

 

[KitingHigh]

water, sewers, garbage and streets aren't important?

If that was all the government was spending money on along with reasonable national defense taxes would be a tiny fraction of what they are.

Also, many of us pay a fee for our water, sewer and garbage. It's not from taxes, at least most of it isn't.

Regardless though, that is irrelevant to the bolded word above and the point behind it. It is a major philosophical difference and frankly one that disgusts me. Liberals tend to beleive that the government owns the money and that allowing someone to keep what they have earned is somehow giving them something. This is by design of course. How many people think their tax refund is some sort of a gift rather than just a return of an overpayment? A payoff of a zero percent loan they gave the government.

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

water, sewers, garbage and streets aren't important?

Yes they are. That's why I pay a utility bill to the city for those services. Road use taxes come from a tax on fuel that we just raised here in Iowa this year. If I use a service, I should pay for what I use should I not? I pay 43.00 / ton to dump at the city landfill. It encourages me to recycle. If they tax some rich guy to pay for what I put in the landfill, where's my incentive to conserve? Also while on the subject I want to see Prius owners pay their fair share of the road use tax, since electric/hybrids use the same roads that I paid for with my gas tax.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Really? You sure about that?

Run the numbers and let me know what you come up.

Don't forget to come back and share with the group.

Why don't you think about it first.

I actually did run the numbers on a similar claim that used to be heard a lot here. Haven't heard it too much since.

That claim was that you could confiscate all the wealth of the top 10% and you still couldn't get rid of the deficit.

Turns out if you confiscate only HALF their wealth of the top 1% (not even the top 10%) - leaving all of them still very rich - you could not only get rid of the deficit, you could pay off the national debt.

So yeah, it's pretty much a no-brainer that you could do a lot of good using a portion of worth of the 62 richest - which, remember is equivalent to the assets of the bottom 3.5 billion.

But if you are so smug in you wingnut certainty, why don't you prove me wrong?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Some will find this interesting.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...-sanders-madison-claims-top-01-americans-hav/

 

[zwick99]

The poor are the real problem. They are lazy criminals who destroy schools. They have no ambition and that is why they fall behind. MLK did not dream about working at McDonalds.

 

[starbrown]

Just double checked and it said there was slavery in this country and it had a negative impact in many different areas of black people lives that has carried over to today. These areas include:

Broken Traditions

African family traditions, which varied according to national origin and religion, could not be replicated in the New World after Africans were forced into slavery. The slave trade was responsible for breaking up African families. Husbands, wives and children could be sold separately because U.S. law did not legally recognize their families.

Broken Families

Enslaved Black people were denied a secure family life. Because they were property and could not legally marry, a permanent family could not be a guaranteed part of enslaved people’s lives. They had no right to live or stay together, no right to their own children, and it was common for enslaved parents and children to live apart.

Illiteracy

Schooling was not an option for enslaved children, and, in most states, it was illegal to teach enslaved Black people to read and write.

Unpaid Workforce

This use of unpaid labor to produce wealth lay at the heart of slavery in America. Enslaved people usually worked from early in the morning until late at night. Women often returned to work shortly after giving birth, sometimes running from the fields during the day to feed their infants.

Mortality Rate

More than one-half of Black infants died before they were 1 year old. This mortality rate was almost double that of whites. Although the survival rate improved after enslaved children reached a year of age, their mortality rate continued to be double that of whites until they were 14 years old.

Well the best way to fix this problem is to hold onto bitterness and create a culture which despises academic achievement for being too white and then voluntarily destroy the traditional family unit (the best defense against generational poverty) which blacks had successfully bought into until the 1960s.

The welfare state has actually impeded black progress. But you'll never understand that because you are stuck in the past and always will be.