Coaching Staff Got Owned

[cocoem]

Your constant penchant of getting mad at anyone who says anything negative about the program shows YOU are the one whose too emotionally tied to the program and feels as if you are a part of the program. Sorry bud, you aren't. You are a F-A-N; nothing more nothing less. Typical scheme where you try cloaking your own feeling a part of the program by trying to claim others are. You're getting upset again at another here who you feel is trying to nudge you off the Hawkeye program bus you imagine yourself to be on; sitting right between Kirk and Brian.

Cut bait dude. Find other hobbies. Stop taking this stuff so seriously. Not everything you own needs to be black and gold and all your kids names don't need to be named in tribute of former Hawkeye greats. Most of the Christmas gifts you hand out to friends and family don't need to have a Hawkeye theme to them. You remind me of the guy who lives across the street from me--there's a certain portion of you that are wired like this. Kirk Ferentz doesn't even want glory worshipers like yourself.

Few rebuttals...
Not mad...never mad
Made your day they lost huh?
Can't get back at KF for blasting you from the groupie gang huh?
They shit more football knowledge every morning than you will every have in your hollow head.
You wish you had the "ties" I had and have
I don't live across the streets from idiots.
No kids names after anything Iowa ....funny coming from a clueless "fan" with a user name of "Frydaze"...marginal coach / great motivator and people evaluate. But keep thinking otherwise.
KF and I get along just fine...but thanks

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

The offensive coaching staff got owned*

The boys on defense have nothing to hang their head about. Including P. PARKER.

 

[spbc7]

I can read a book all day about hitting a baseball, but I'll know more about hitting after an hour in the cage than any amount of reading.

So basically you’ll learn the most about coaching offense by.....wait for it.....coaching offense

 

[spbc7]

I’m not saying BF is a good offensive coordinator, just that him getting a shot as an OC was not undeserved. So far the risk is working out for Wisky, but not for Iowa

 

[ScoutRefugee]

The results have absolutely nothing to do with my comment. How can one say that Leonhard worked for and earned his position with only one year of coaching experience at any level, but BF was simply handed his job despite 10 years in coaching?

One was interviewed by an AD that has managed to turn Wisconsin into a BIG power, in spite of 3 coaching changes in the last 6 years.
One was hired by his Dad.

 

[e. jon tracy]

Guys, no matter what we are going to get what we want. BRIAN is going to have a about 3-4 years to show he can make Iowa at least a decent offensive team. His numbers now are worse than the numbers that got the last guy ran out of town. His numbers will get better or his dad is going to fire him and if that happens the whole Empire will start to fold. For better or worse KFs legacy is going to hinge on Brian's ability to run an offense over the next 3 years.

 

[frydaze]

Few rebuttals...
Not mad...never mad
Made your day they lost huh?
Can't get back at KF for blasting you from the groupie gang huh?
They shit more football knowledge every morning than you will every have in your hollow head.
You wish you had the "ties" I had and have
I don't live across the streets from idiots.
No kids names after anything Iowa ....funny coming from a clueless "fan" with a user name of "Frydaze"...marginal coach / great motivator and people evaluate. But keep thinking otherwise.
KF and I get along just fine...but thanks

Your constant angry responses at anything critical of YOUR Hawkeyes has made it obvious you want to live through the program. Seems others agree. The ties you have....... lol. You want a medal of a chest to pin it on? Damn man, you clearly do consider YOURSELF part of the program. Let go dude. Just let go. Let your fantasies go.

 

[JoelBittner]

lol the only thing I really have an issue with is our offense of line coach we did not handle Wisconsin stunts and blitzing worth a damn. But I don't think I'd fire all the coaches LOL

offense of

lol

 

[papabeef]

Doesn't matter who you hire if you have KF mandating it has to be pro style offense and you have to stick with zone blocking. Clearly the Offensive line and the blocking scheme is broken. Once every 5 years, they get a O-line that has been together long enough that they can jell with the zone blocking in run game. However, if they do jell in run game, they probably suck at pass protection. Then there is thing called a blitz which should be outlawed....Iowa doesn't like to use it on defense, but it sure works wonders against Iowa's offense.

Amen to the blitz comment.

 

[cocoem]

Your constant angry responses at anything critical of YOUR Hawkeyes has made it obvious you want to live through the program. Seems others agree. The ties you have....... lol. You want a medal of a chest to pin it on? Damn man, you clearly do consider YOURSELF part of the program. Let go dude. Just let go. Let your fantasies go.

Being critical and what you are do to make your miserable life seem better are miles apart. Not your position in life to be critical of something you can't or never have done. A lot of people, including yourself will never understand that, but can't fix stupid. If you ever do you will feel so much better about yourself...promise

Put your pullover sweater on and get to Carver. You can sit there with all the other has-been Iowa City old farts and wonder where the years went. Keep being miserable...it might be the only thing you are good at.

 

[TheRealHerky]

Even when the Iowa OL knew who they were supposed to block, they still couldn't do it.

Wisconsin's front 7 completely confused and physically dominated the Iowa offense.
When that happens, even calling the perfect play won't result in success.

 

[obfuscating]

The offensive coaching staff got owned*

The boys on defense have nothing to hang their head about. Including P. PARKER.

To quote KF "We aren't good enough". What coach says that about their team?! If he is meaning the coaching staff isn't good enough I will agree, but he is directing that at the players.

Our OC is "learning" at a clip of 600k per year, what other HC would tolerate such a jekyl\hyde offense?

Hats off to the D - again, they can only do so much.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

So basically you’ll learn the most about coaching offense by.....wait for it.....coaching offense

That would be the fastest way to learn, yes. However we were talking about the qualifications to get to said position.

 

[frydaze]

Being critical and what you are do to make your miserable life seem better are miles apart. Not your position in life to be critical of something you can't or never have done. A lot of people, including yourself will never understand that, but can't fix stupid. If you ever do you will feel so much better about yourself...promise

Put your pullover sweater on and get to Carver. You can sit there with all the other has-been Iowa City old farts and wonder where the years went. Keep being miserable...it might be the only thing you are good at.

Once again, here's our advice to internet "insecure tough guys" like you:

Your constant angry responses at anything critical of YOUR Hawkeyes has made it obvious you want to live through the program. Seems others agree. The ties you have....... lol. You want a medal of a chest to pin it on? Damn man, you clearly do consider YOURSELF part of the program. Let go dude. Just let go. Let your fantasies go.

 

[cocoem]

Once again, here's our advice to internet "insecure tough guys" like you:

Your constant angry responses at anything critical of YOUR Hawkeyes has made it obvious you want to live through the program. Seems others agree. The ties you have....... lol. You want a medal of a chest to pin it on? Damn man, you clearly do consider YOURSELF part of the program. Let go dude. Just let go. Let your fantasies go.

Keep trying..you are failing miserably. "our advice".....hahaha! To your "let it go"...had to years ago. You know the difference between me and you?? I had it to let go...you cant because you are a NEVER-WAS!

Pullover sweater today...its cold out old man.

 

[JoelBittner]

Keep trying..you are failing miserably. "our advice".....hahaha! To your "let it go"...had to years ago. You know the difference between me and you?? I had it to let go...you cant because you are a NEVER-WAS!

Pullover sweater today...its cold out old man.

^^^^ tutorial on fail.

 

[Ford26]

So is it “they” or “we”??? Remember you have zero connection to the football team. You don’t play, coach or have your day affected by their day. Cut bait...it is obviously too much for you to handle

I don't think you've thought through your argument.

It is said that with a problem employee that "if they at least care" then you have some hope for better. What you're advocating is for "our Hawkeye people" to step away, to quit caring, to find another team, another interest.

Kinnick would (& could be) a far less intimidating place to play if half the seats were empty.

Perhaps some don't care for critical commentary regarding the coaching staff and program performance. Yet, I will guarantee you that if Kinnick DID become a half-full venue, things would change. Fussy fans are not the bigger problem.

 

[frydaze]

Keep trying..you are failing miserably. "our advice".....hahaha! To your "let it go"...had to years ago. You know the difference between me and you?? I had it to let go...you cant because you are a NEVER-WAS!

Pullover sweater today...its cold out old man.

Living vicariously through Iowa sports teams and Iowa athletes today. Nice. How old are you? You had it to let go? Even if there was an ounce of truth to that, you'd be classified as being in recovery mode based on your posts. Dude, there's more life--reach out--enjoy--experience.

You're way too old too still get worked up about everything ever said that you sees negative". Again, some of us here uncovered your scheme of always jumping on others who you think are negative--camouflaging your own insecurities.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Nothing I have said is an overreaction. I have just given a review. Maybe you underreact? You must care because you respond to these type of posts. Maybe you would care to show how the program is on the right track and challenge my belief and statements? Shed posistive light on these last 5-6 seasons?

The fact we return the core of our team next year is some insight as to how our program is on the right track...If you thought this current team would win more than 8 games that is on you-that was before losing 2 5th year starting OT's. I was thinking 6-7 wins based on youth (good youth BTW) and will be fine if we finish 8-4 and a good bowl showing.....if I remember correctly you historically show up after losses and were are no where to be found when we are successful, have fun with that

 

[JoelBittner]

The fact we return the core of our team next year is some insight as to how our program is on the right track...If you thought this current team would win more than 8 games that is on you-that was before losing 2 5th year starting OT's. I was thinking 6-7 wins based on youth (good youth BTW) and will be fine if we finish 8-4 and a good bowl showing.....if I remember correctly you historically show up after losses and were are no where to be found when we are successful, have fun with that

Tell us which seasons we all SUPPOSED to under-perform?
We already know which ones we are supposed to over-achieve, they have a two-word name------> EXCEEDINGLY RARE

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Tell us which seasons we all SUPPOSED to under-perform?
We already know which ones we are supposed to over-achieve, they have a two-word name------> EXCEEDINGLY RARE

Apparently so are reasonable and non reactionary fans
Last weeks everything is glorious fans and this week everybody should be fired fans are both annoying. Just so happens the negative nancys are out in full force this week.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

Could you provide an example of Someone saying there is a member of the staff that should be fired? I see guys saying some seats are getting warm. I see some guys talking about having a rough Monday of work, I don't believe I have seen anyone calling for a firing. When. Your talking about the level these guys are at your always under a microscope.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Could you provide an example of Someone saying there is a member of the staff that should be fired? I see guys saying some seats are getting warm. I see some guys talking about having a rough Monday of work, I don't believe I have seen anyone calling for a firing. When. Your talking about the level these guys are at your always under a microscope.

Hyperbole on my part, just simply pointing out how crazy and reactionary some people are. I have been on here long enough to know who is going to start posting and who is going to lurk in the shadowing until they get an opportunity to push their agenda.....its pretty obvious that we had different posters last week than this week. Would be nice for the negative nancys to pop over every once and a while and say something positive-but of course that wouldn't serve their agenda

 

[JoelBittner]

Could you provide an example of Someone saying there is a member of the staff that should be fired? I see guys saying some seats are getting warm. I see some guys talking about having a rough Monday of work, I don't believe I have seen anyone calling for a firing. When. Your talking about the level these guys are at your always under a microscope.

I'm actually distressed at the number of people who keep thinking this problem will self-correct.

 

[cocoem]

Living vicariously through Iowa sports teams and Iowa athletes today. Nice. How old are you? You had it to let go? Even if there was an ounce of truth to that, you'd be classified as being in recovery mode based on your posts. Dude, there's more life--reach out--enjoy--experience.

You're way too old too still get worked up about everything ever said that you sees negative". Again, some of us here uncovered your scheme of always jumping on others who you think are negative--camouflaging your own insecurities.

Pretty sure it was straight forward when I called morons out like yourself...no scheme what so ever. But great detective work there Jacques Clouseau

 

[frydaze]

Pretty sure it was straight forward when I called morons out like yourself...no scheme what so ever. But great detective work there Jacques Clouseau

Sorry dude, you were the one called out. Next time don't be so obvious in what your intentions are like in your post I originally replied to after you tried bashing another poster.

 

[JoelBittner]

Pretty sure it was straight forward when I called morons out like yourself...no scheme what so ever. But great detective work there Jacques Clouseau

Childish anger

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

The Iowa D was pretty solid - but it was far from a great effort. Wisconsin still ran with too great of ease and with limited receiving personnel, they still got passing TDs too easily.

The offense was offensive on every front ... including BOTH players AND the coaches. However, whether we like that or not ... many teams have that sort of day. It's not like the player and coaches were phoning things in during the week or during the game - but obviously that doesn't mean that they executed well or had the best ideas or prep either.

It's worth noting that even good coaches have bad game-plans OR get out-strategized every so often. Most folks agree that Urban Meyer is one of the better coaches in the game ... and Iowa completely outclassed him recently. Dantonio and his staff have consistently been a solid group (regardless of how much I dislike them) .... and yet MSU got seriously outclassed/outcoached last week too.

As fans ... obviously the loss was annoying and painful to us. It sticks in our craw even more because we know that the Badgers will be very good next year too. We WANT to see hope ... we want to have a feeling that we can match them or beat them. I understand and share these sentiments.

However, we must also understand that the loss was invariably more irritating and more painful to the players and coaches. The amount of time they spend ... the hard work they put in ... they're far more invested into this enterprise than any of us 'fans.' Is our team going to work hard to improve? I believe all signs point to them doing just that. Does our team have a nice 'upside?' I believe that it is fair to say that it does? Is it possible that this year really was a bit of a 'transition year' ... and yet we still may be poised to have a 8-4 regular season?

When I need a little bit of perspective ... I sometimes think about how even Norm Parker got seriously outclassed in the 2004 game against Minnesota. Our vaunted D got torn apart on the ground ... and it took a missed FG at the end of the game for us to pull off the victory. The very next year, Norm had them much better prepped for all of the Gopher cut-blocks ... and consequently our defenders kept their feet. In '05, the Minnesota ground game was even more potent ... and Iowa featured an all-new DL. Regardless, Iowa gutted the rodents in that game. A lot can change in a year ... and the staff can learn from their past mistakes and construct better plans the following year. The game ebbs and flows ... and you have to have a firm countenance to handle the (emotional) turmoil that accompanies those ups and downs.

 

[cmhawks99]

The issue here is that everything you just said is you venting.

Everyone has already heard every dissatisfaction there is to speak of about Iowa football.

But beyond venting, what are your words?

You want to see them do this. You want to see them do that. We need to change, change, change. And when it doesn't happen, you'll do what?

Complain some more, because that's all we have.

You think complaining is gonna convince the Cleveland Browns organization to finally see the light and suddenly they'll trade for and draft all the talent they need and hire the right coach to coach up their acquired talent to finally win that elusive Super Bowl?

F*** no. It ain't happening. That obviously doesn't mean Browns fans will stop complaining. That may not mean they'll stop being fans (same goes for Iowa fans btw).....

But beyond that, what can they do?

"So what you want us to just sit there and take it?"

Of course not. I'm asking you what you're gonna do about it. And sure someone could give me an answer to that, like "not go to games" or "write strongly worded letters to the AD or the President or the Board of Regents or your f***ing local congressman" or "refuse to buy merchandise and hope enough people all do the same for all those other things listed that CHANGE will finally take place"................but that's still not gonna be good enough.

So beyond that what are you gonna do about it?

"Fine, I'll just stick to venting...."

Funny how that works, huh.....that that's all you guys who still want to be Iowa fans can come back to.

"At least we have our message boards to complain on, because dammit I want change! I want the coaching staff fired and I want better recruits and dammit I want a national championship because it's not too much to ask of the other 120 some teams/coaches in the FBS and the NCAA to allow that to happen and to allow Iowa, of all f***ing schools to actually get all the breaks needed to actually win a national title, because dammit that's what I demand because I have high expectations. I hold myself to higher expectations so the team I root for should do the same dammit!!!!!!"

All been heard before. Does anything change? F*** no.

So what else can you do besides vent?.............


Just sayin.

P.S. All of this is true, btw, regardless of if you don't like it. I'm not gonna play games with anyone this time. Everything I said is true. Enjoy!

This was an awesome post....as you probably know I don't post during the season, but I will confess going back through and seeing the temper-tantrums of 25, 35, 55 year old men is comical.

Here is the thing, It Sucks losing, but if they'd been down on Oklahoma's board like I was when they lost to ISU, you'd have some comparison....they hate Mike Stoops, he sucks, and there is a broad university/Booby Stoops conspiracy that keeps him employed...

And at Texas, their super hire, you know offensive guru Tom Herman, has a TERRIBLE offensive staff.....

Wyoming of course, thinks their O-coordinator sucks, but interestingly enough North Dakota St wants him back...LOL

Honestly you can't make this crap up. I know a number of high school coaches, good ones, hearing how people complain and bitch about them makes me embarrassed to be in the world!