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Committee does it again...Duke a 4?!

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Sure. Duke's a #4 and Iowa's a #7. Didn't know Coach K was on the committee. LOL

And Wichita State? Ridiculous. They have no resume at all. Shouldn't be anywhere near the 68.

Notre Dame a #6 ahead of Iowa? Really? And Big Ten champ Indiana only a #5?

Michigan State a #2 behind Virginia? MSU beat Kansas and other top teams, lost five games, three by a total of 4 points. Maybe the Spartans were penalized for losing to Iowa by a total of 30.

As usual, when a committee is at work you can be sure the work will get screwed up. (See Congress).

Oh, and I like UNI to dump Texas.

I'm glad Michigan made it, but how? And Tulsa?! Whoa....

Purdue a #5--no respect for Big Ten.

Syracuse! What BS. 19-13 with a criminal for a coach and the committee says sure, you're in the dance. That's just ludicrous. Almost beyond belief. Horrible to force a deserving team out to let stinking Syracuse in. Just awful. I hope Syracuse gets run outta the gym.
 
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aristotleiowa said:
Sure. Duke's a #4 and Iowa's a #7. Didn't know Coach K was on the committee. LOL

And Wichita State? Ridiculous. They have no resume at all. Shouldn't be anywhere near the 68.

Notre Dame a #6 ahead of Iowa? Really? And Big Ten champ Indiana only a #5?

Michigan State a #2 behind Virginia? MSU beat Kansas and other top teams, lost five games, three by a total of 4 points. Maybe the Spartans were penalized for losing to Iowa by a total of 30.

As usual, when a committee is at work you can be sure the work will get screwed up. (See Congress).

Oh, and I like UNI to dump Texas.

I'm glad Michigan made it, but how? And Tulsa?! Whoa....

Purdue a #5--no respect for Big Ten.

Syracuse! What BS. 19-13 with a criminal for a coach and the committee says sure, you're in the dance. That's just ludicrous. Almost beyond belief. Horrible to force a deserving team out to let stinking Syracuse in. Just awful. I hope Syracuse gets run outta the gym.
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Agree with the B1G not getting as much respect as I thought they should. Purdue and Indiana are better than 5 seeds. MSU a #2 is crazy, as well as ISU 4.
 
I agree with most of this except it seems you are surprised Iowa was so low. Have you seen them play this last month? Wichita State belongs nowhere near the bracket. I think everyone is confusing them with who they thought they were preseason.
 
The bottom of the B1G is terrible, and it would appear that the conference paid for it. I'm not sure Iowa's late season fade didn't factor in as well.

MSU not a 1 is a crime. ISU at 4 is laughable.
 
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This whole bracket is messed up. How you have the first 4 games with Michigan, Tulsa, Vandy, and WSU.

Sorry those games should be reserved for teams like Monmouth, St Bonneventure, St marys and Valpo. Those teams can't help who they play in their conference. Kind of makes Conference tournaments pointless for the top seeds. They all got penalized because they didn't win.
 
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2 ACC teams as 1 seeds is a joke. And on top of that, VA over MSU is more of a joke.

You take away 2 of MSU's losses to Iowa and they have only 3 losses. I guess the committee forgot they beat the #1 overall KU. When you have Iowa fans mad about MSU disrespect, you know s*** just got real
 
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2 ACC teams as 1 seeds is a joke. And on top of that, VA over MSU is more of a joke.

You take away 2 of MSU's losses to Iowa and they have only 3 losses. I guess the committee forgot they beat the #1 overall KU. When you have Iowa fans mad about MSU disrespect, you know s*** just got real
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I totally forgot the KU victory. By the looks of things it would seem that some conferences were given preference over others. Big 8, ACC, PAC 8 have some really high seeded teams that don't appear to be deserving. The B1G in particular looks like it got a good reaming, IN TERMS OF SEEDING.
 
Duke at 4 is crazy, a 5 or 6 is where they should be as well as Iowa State. Who did they beat away from hilton this year? They have the talent to be a 4 but I don't think they will be able to handle Purdue's bigs if they meet up in the second. MSU should be a 1 and bump Virginia to a 2.
 
I'm not surprised by Iowa's seed either. I think if they would have atleast beat Illinois in the tourney they are a 6 for sure but the committee saw that they lost 6 of their last 7.
 
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This. I don't even know where to begin..

Indiana a 5??

Oregon a 1 over MSU?

ISU a 4?

Syracuse in the field

Prob the most surprising one to me was Oregon State going from the bubble to a 7 seed?! WTF
 
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ICWestfan said:
The bottom of the B1G is terrible, and it would appear that the conference paid for it. I'm not sure Iowa's late season fade didn't factor in as well.

MSU not a 1 is a crime. ISU at 4 is laughable.
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How is Iowa State a #4 seed, come on??? WTF? Until losing to Illinois, Iowa has been ranked ahead of ISU for quite some time in both Computers and sport hack polls
 
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Texas A&M a 3 seed and Kentucky a 4?

Calipari is making a great point about playing Conference tournaments on Sundays. Saying they should play their championship on a different day. Apparently MSU winning the Big Ten, did nothing for them as well.
 
The absolute worse thing you can do is have a serious late season collapse - that is always been true.

The Committee rewards hot teams in early March and late Feb. That is why tournament champions get such favorable treatment.

we failed in the Tournament and collapsed in the last month of the season. So that is why we got the shaft.
 
Was there ever a 4 seed with 10 losses? Duke is toast.
Maryland having to go completely across the country is ridiculous.
B1G regular season champ a 5 seed?
Syracuse, Michigan,and Tulsa, WTF.
Oregon State was 1-9 on the road and road wins at one point mattered, such as Iowa a few years ago.
I think the selection room is 2 days of drugs, booze, and hookers cause there isn't much basketball IQ.
 
Syracuse making the tournament is a joke....#70 RPI? While St. Bonaventure is #30 RPI?

I think the committee does what they want, like I said there is a "good ole boys" system.
 
RockEyeState said:
How is Iowa State a #4 seed, come on??? WTF? Until losing to Illinois, Iowa has been ranked ahead of ISU for quite some time in both Computers and sport hack polls
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I think you got it figured out that ranking means very little. Iowa was not a top 25 seed and the committee clearly favored the strengths of B12, Pac12, and ACC to some extent. The eye test was also used as well.
 
It just seems the B1G got de-valued this year. How Indy is a 5 seed is unreal. I think the committee sees the B1G as a decent conference but lesser so than the other power Conferences except the SEC. Maryland a 5, Purdue a 5 and then Sparty a 2. They just downgraded the conference .
Every one of the CBS pundits picked Sparty to final four. Not one picked Oregon.
We shall see.
 
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It just seems the B1G got de-valued this year. How Indy is a 5 seed is unreal. I think the committee sees the B1G as a decent conference but lesser so than the other power Conferences except the SEC. Maryland a 5, Purdue a 4 and then Sparty a 2. They just downgraded the conference .
Every one of the CBS pundits picked Sparty to final four. Not one picked Oregon.
We shall see.
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Purdue is a 5
 
Duke a 4 seed who was lost to ND in first game of ACC tourney and ISU a 4 seed who finished 6th in their conf bounced by OU in first rd all higher than Indiana outright big 10 champ, Maryland and Purdue. Even Kentucky they tied for 1st in a pathetic SEC conference and seeded higher than Indiana outright conf champ with better conf record.

Duke by far the biggest joke with its seed.
 
ISU did not lose to a non tournament team - not a bad loss all year, including UNI

Losing to OU in Big 12 tourney did them no harm - unlike losing to a "Illinois"

All of this pissing and moaning by Iowa fans seems ridiculous. They were horrible the last month. They got what they deserved.
 
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Iowa did get what they deserved, maybe better, but the conference as a whole got kicked in the groin. Too many questionable decisions by the committee this year.
 
I have no problem with Hawks on the 7 line. They fell apart, that seems like a fair place to land.
Agree with the OP that the dookies weren't deserving of a 4.
'clones probably 1 seed too high as well. I'd swap the spots between them and purdue.

Agree as well that some of the teams that got in vs. those left out don't make sense.
valpo and monmouth more deserving than vandy, tulsa, michigan, syracuse.
 
Even though I know this opinion could go against Iowa someday, my biggest gripe is when lower half power or mid-major teams get in over equally (if not more) deserving regular season champs of smaller conferences who happened to lose in their conf tounrnaments. Those bigger conference also rans aren't going to make a 5-win run to the Final Four anyway, so the smaller schools are a much better storyline. Cinderellas are what make the first weekend interesting.
 
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There were some real head scratchers, but Iowa being a 7 seed wasn't one of them imo. We played ourselves into that seed. MSU and Indiana definitely got the shaft.
 
stender72865 said:
ISU did not lose to a non tournament team - not a bad loss all year, including UNI

Losing to OU in Big 12 tourney did them no harm - unlike losing to a "Illinois"

All of this pissing and moaning by Iowa fans seems ridiculous. They were horrible the last month. They got what they deserved.
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I'm not sure what Iowa fans you were referring to complaining about Iowa being a 7 seed? Most fans like myself think that is fine. I'm also Not seeing many Iowa fans in this thread "pissing and moaning" like you said. Try to keep up.

ISU being a 4 seed is debatable. Do u think that is where they should have been seeded? ISU has beat 1 tournament team in the last 8 weeks. They beat Texas tech who sucks and if they were in the big10 would have not made the tournament based on how the big10 was viewed. I don't believe isu got what they deserved finishing the season 5-7 over their last 12 games.
 
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Clonewithasigh said:
I think you got it figured out that ranking means very little. Iowa was not a top 25 seed and the committee clearly favored the strengths of B12, Pac12, and ACC to some extent. The eye test was also used as well.
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The eye test still doesn't have the Clones as a 4 seed, more like a 6
 
stender72865 said:
ISU did not lose to a non tournament team - not a bad loss all year, including UNI

Losing to OU in Big 12 tourney did them no harm - unlike losing to a "Illinois"

All of this pissing and moaning by Iowa fans seems ridiculous. They were horrible the last month. They got what they deserved.
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Funny thing is Indiana gets punished for having an easy Big 10 schedule and winning games they should even Michigan beating no one on road and beating lesser teams than I saw the 4 seed clones vs the top teams in the Big 12.

ISU vs bottom 3 teams in big 12 were 6-0
ISU vs rest of big 12- 4-8
ISU road games vs top 6 teams in conference 0-6
ISU road games vs bottom 3 3-0

Obviously clones are great at Hilton, now outside of Hilton that is a different story.
 
CyCity said:
The eye test would have Iowa as a 10 if that is the case. ISU's resume is why they are a 4 seed
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The tournament will prove once again the Texas Ten is over rated. Just as it has the last 5-6 years. Will it stop isu grad from touting how awesome the Texas Ten is next year, nope it won't. In fact even bringing up past performance will not be tolerated by isu grad.

Rinse and repeat.
 
iahawkeyes17 said:
Duke a 4 seed who was lost to ND in first game of ACC tourney and ISU a 4 seed who finished 6th in their conf bounced by OU in first rd all higher than Indiana outright big 10 champ, Maryland and Purdue. Even Kentucky they tied for 1st in a pathetic SEC conference and seeded higher than Indiana outright conf champ with better conf record.

Duke by far the biggest joke with its seed.
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Conference tourney cant hurt you it can only help
 
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