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Cook decision?

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So there is a lot of info and too much actually. Last I heard is that Cook is still deciding whether or not to stay and complete his senior year. Is that accurate?
 
So there is a lot of info and too much actually. Last I heard is that Cook is still deciding whether or not to stay and complete his senior year. Is that accurate?

You gotta believe the longer we hear something, the better it is.
 
I think the more guys who enter makes the chances for his return a little better because think will drop him down the board even more so. But for the record I think he goes pro no matter if he thinks he will be drafted or not.
 
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I've heard that some of the European teams are a little slow with paychecks if at all. No idea if it's true but I've heard this before.
 
This is a total guess on my part, but I don't think he liked that the story leaked and he'd prefer to make the announcement "on his terms." Which if that's the case, I can respect that.

With that being said, I'm in the "I hope he stays" camp.
 
It really depends on the league. Any good agent that focuses on those leagues will know.



I've heard that some of the European teams are a little slow with paychecks if at all. No idea if it's true but I've heard this before.
 
If you're unsure...that answer is No. A successful senior year would go a long way toward TC's pro career.
 
Cook needs to decide if trying to play in the G-League or in an overseas league is right for him. Making a NBA team might be his dream, but he isnt on any NBA mock drafts from what I have seen.

So there is a lot of info and too much actually. Last I heard is that Cook is still deciding whether or not to stay and complete his senior year. Is that accurate?
 
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I've heard that some of the European teams are a little slow with paychecks if at all. No idea if it's true but I've heard this before.

Yeah, playing basketball in Europe for $250-$300K year ain't bad for a 23 year old. But the lifestyle isn't so great. That said, if you can do it for 4-5 years...put some money in the bank and come back stateside to reinvent yourself at 28 it's not a bad option.
 
I've been harsh with some comments, but here's one thing I wonder: How would Tyler look if he played with an excellent PG? Somebody who would be able to penetrate, kick out to open shooters, and just in general keep post defenders from collapsing down on Cook (or Garza). I imagine in this scenario, Cook would benefit from a lot of alley-oop dunks and probably find it easier to get position near the basket. Which would of course limit how much he has to dribble and would also naturally keep him closer to the rim for rebounding position.

I bet he'd look totally different on a team with excellent guard play, and he'd be able to focus on what he does best. Now, problem is I don't think Iowa's going to suddenly have excellent guard play, but I do think Toussaint might be able to penetrate and kick some... on the other hand, a pro team (even in Eastern Europe) probably would have much better guard play. So it is completely possible that Cook will shine. I still don't see any plausible path to the NBA though.
 
IMO getting the ball to him hasn't been the problem, it's what he does from there. Iowa was at its best when he played unselfishly and kicked it back out or drove hard to the hoop. Something changed and he began to hold longer and distribute less. Ultimately shooting low percentage shots and putting the team in a tough spot on transition defense.
 
Yeah, playing basketball in Europe for $250-$300K year ain't bad for a 23 year old. But the lifestyle isn't so great. That said, if you can do it for 4-5 years...put some money in the bank and come back stateside to reinvent yourself at 28 it's not a bad option.
Yeah, who would want to be around the art, history, culture, and culinary opportunities in Europe?:rolleyes:
Of course I've been like a fifty year old in my thinking since I was 20, so what I think is a good opportunity wouldn't match with the vast majority of players in this situation.
 
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I am absolutely in the court we won't see Cook in an Iowa jersey again. He won't be drafted. Too much talent. However, he can continue his professional pursuit overseas, etc. I'm fine if he goes. I'm fine if he returns ...

I "think" Cook could have been a huge force inside for Iowa if anyone ever taught him an inside game. Tremendous body. Would have been interesting to see what an Izzo, etc., would have done with Cook from a coaching standpoint. As a junior, Cook never developed an inside game or mid-range game ... I think the potential was/is absolutely there ... we just won't see it at Iowa.
 
IMO getting the ball to him hasn't been the problem, it's what he does from there. Iowa was at its best when he played unselfishly and kicked it back out or drove hard to the hoop. Something changed and he began to hold longer and distribute less. Ultimately shooting low percentage shots and putting the team in a tough spot on transition defense.
Garza became a consistent force in the 1st half of the year as teams focused on Cook. When defenses refocused on Garza, Cook stepped up. But then didn’t seem to know how to find a balance of sharing the O after that.
 
I think the more guys who enter makes the chances for his return a little better because think will drop him down the board even more so. But for the record I think he goes pro no matter if he thinks he will be drafted or not.

I really can't see him getting drafted, especially in today's NBA, unless he develops into a Reggie Evans type glass cleaner. We haven't seen that type of consistent hustle or ability from him yet.

He needs to come back and start hitting 15 footers with consistency. If you combine his athletic ability with the threat of a jumper maybe he has a chance at next level success. It's a long shot, both him and the program would be better off if he came back.
 
Scott Dochterman said on KCRG again Monday night that it was a done deal...Tyler is gone. He didn't seem to think there was any doubt.
 
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Yeah, who would want to be around the art, history, culture, and culinary opportunities in Europe?:rolleyes:
Of course I've been like a fifty year old in my thinking since I was 20, so what I think is a good opportunity wouldn't match with the vast majority of players in this situation.

I was thinking more the travel perks and game sites. Euro ball ain't as glamorous as the NBA. But some of it would be like being on a constant vacation...I get ya. Though every franchise isn't in a Milan or Geneva. I'm sure Moscow would get old fast.
 
I really can't see him getting drafted, especially in today's NBA, unless he develops into a Reggie Evans type glass cleaner. We haven't seen that type of consistent hustle or ability from him yet.

He needs to come back and start hitting 15 footers with consistency. If you combine his athletic ability with the threat of a jumper maybe he has a chance at next level success. It's a long shot, both him and the program would be better off if he came back.
If you can’t shoot worth a darn after playing since you were young— you never are going to be a shooter.
 
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He'll never see an nba court. You cant play in the nba when you're unwilling to play defense and challenge guys at the rim as a 6'9 player, unless you score 20+ points a game. Nba teams have seen him ole` guys at the rim giving up easy dunks. And like someone else said if you cant shoot by now its not gonna happen. His shot is beyond horrible from 10 feet out.
 
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I really can't see him getting drafted, especially in today's NBA, unless he develops into a Reggie Evans type glass cleaner. We haven't seen that type of consistent hustle or ability from him yet.

He needs to come back and start hitting 15 footers with consistency. If you combine his athletic ability with the threat of a jumper maybe he has a chance at next level success. It's a long shot, both him and the program would be better off if he came back.
I’d rather not see him back and working on his 15 foot jump shot. Concentrating on what he does best and coming back is good with me, but not jump shots.
 
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I’d rather not see him back and working on his 15 foot jump shot. Concentrating on what he does best and coming back is good with me, but not jump shots.

Haha I get it, it’s a scary proposition thinking about him shooting. I mainly referenced that skill set as something that would be transferable to the NBA. He’s to one dimensional right now, if he wants a snow balls chance in hell of having a lengthy NBA career you can’t be one dimensional. Unless you’re a Kyle Korver type, and that’s just because spacing is valuable in today’s NBA.
 
If you can’t shoot worth a darn after playing since you were young— you never are going to be a shooter.

Kwahii Leonard and Aaron Gordon disagree. Gordon was really criticized during his draft process and the first few years of his career in the NBA. He struggled finding effectiveness between being a 4 or a 3 without a pro level shot. However, with access to the best trainers and financial capital to invest in himself he has developed an effective shot which has transformed him into a nightmare for other teams.
The difference between TC and Gordon ( besides difference in prospect level) however, is that Gordon embraces being a top flight defender in addition to his freak athleticism, something Tyler should consider.

On the flip side of my argument was my comparison of TC with Derrick Williams. Williams never did put in the same work Gordon did and now is out of the league.

The developmental assets are there for prospects once they are drafted to develop to even another level. The NBA is much more focused on development than in yester-years. So it’s very possible to boost or even totally develop missing skills after arriving.

I will admit that there are far more examples of players not achieving this than that have, but I expect those numbers to even out with the new emphasis on development by the league.
 
I'm guessing you didn't read past the title?

I read it and saw the “source said” then I texted a friend who’s connected with Iowa b-ball. I put two and two together. I could be guilty of confirmation bias, but if I had to bet I’d bet on this article being proven correct. I do agree that nothing is 100% until TC says it. Thanks for keeping me accurate though.
 
Kwahii Leonard and Aaron Gordon disagree. Gordon was really criticized during his draft process and the first few years of his career in the NBA. He struggled finding effectiveness between being a 4 or a 3 without a pro level shot. However, with access to the best trainers and financial capital to invest in himself he has developed an effective shot which has transformed him into a nightmare for other teams.
The difference between TC and Gordon ( besides difference in prospect level) however, is that Gordon embraces being a top flight defender in addition to his freak athleticism, something Tyler should consider.

On the flip side of my argument was my comparison of TC with Derrick Williams. Williams never did put in the same work Gordon did and now is out of the league.

The developmental assets are there for prospects once they are drafted to develop to even another level. The NBA is much more focused on development than in yester-years. So it’s very possible to boost or even totally develop missing skills after arriving.

I will admit that there are far more examples of players not achieving this than that have, but I expect those numbers to even out with the new emphasis on development by the league.

I’m guessing you don’t watch a lot of NBA if you are comparing TC to Aaron Gordon. Two completely different players and not to mention one might not even get drafted as the other was picked 4th overall.

I have said it here before but if Cook wants to make the NBA he should model his game after Montrezl Harrell which would be good rebounding, High energy, and good finisher downlow.
 
From this draft on, players who declare for the NBA draft and are not selected have the opportunity to return to their school for at least another year, only after terminating all agreements with their agents.[3]
 
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