Owen Freeman on the outs?
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KU took Moss from us a few years ago. Freeman is already a better player than he ever was, and has way more potential, especially w/the right coach. But you're also right, he would flourish at Creighton.
Unfortunately this is true.
We are no longer good enough to be relevant nor bad enough to be irrelevant. We just are.
We don't need gimmicks, we need a coach that knows how to win which is why I want McCollum.
I don't know enough about McCollum. But I hope they hire a coach that values defense without sacrificing offense. I don't want to watch 55-50 games, but I do want to watch guys busting their asses on defense : boxing out and rebounding (actually on both ends), fighting through picks, helping, talking, challenging passing lanes, moving your feet and not reaching, diving on the floor (not bending over) for loose balls, hard fouls when necessary, and then get the ball and go. And if the guys on the team can't/won't do that, then cut them loose. Every last one of them, if need be. The first week of practice, every player should be bruised and puking his guts out because it is freaking hard.
Maybe if you have an additional 47 posts about how much you want McCollum it’ll come true.
Look on the bright side, he'll only miss 10 games. Because there's no way we're making Big Ten tourny.
We don't know the extent of the injury and whether playing with it until the end of the season could cause greater damage, BUT, Kenny Arnold played with a broken thumb and a year or two before Vince Brookins played with a broken hand. Would Owen still be playing if the team were better?
Again, I haven't seen anyone suggest that the Pierce incident has anything to do with attendance problems in '25
Sure, those are all things that factor into your choice of whether to attend or not.
That doesn't change that fact that less fans in the seats is bad for the program, and that fans have the choice to do something about that.
I get this is impossible for many of you. But if you don't want to support the program (which, guess what, gives the program support), then don't complain when the type of things that take place at programs that aren't being supported actually happen.
Carry on though, because I highly doubt you're capable of listening. I'm sure you quit attending during the Lickliter years and talked a bunch of shit about those teams too. Were tickets and gas somehow more expensive back then too?
And I'm sure you have some sort of justification for habitually littering the Hawkeye community with negativity too.
We get it. You're just a selfish consumer. You've said as much as few times now
Iowa basketball is beyond boring. I haven’t watched a complete game for a couple years, and won’t do so until Fran is gone. If you want to spend your money seeing that garbage in person, that’s your choice, but get off your high horse.
You thinking about making a play for her?
Owen Freeman is no Luka Garza. Not even close. But this is on Fran. Team is poorly put together and uninspired. That’s on the coach.
Freeman is not even close to Luka so he's not going to make any money in the NBA. If he wants to make money off basketball, college is all he has. He needs to transfer and get as much money as he can. Once he's done with college, he'll just be another tall guy walking around.
I agree he has no future in the NBA, but he could make a very decent living playing overseas.
A new coach could at least attempt to recruit both Freeman and Dix to stay. If there is a decent financial offer that isn't too far below what they could get on the open market they might be willing to listen.
If Fran stays, he's better off shopping his talents to the highest bidder.
If Fran stays, he's better off shopping his talents to the highest bidder.
Owen’s first two years in the program have been much better than Luka’s first two seasons. Luka made his big jump in his junior season. Owen doesn’t have the perimeter shooting ability that Luka had but has better post moves than Luka had at the same point in his career. Owen certainly has the potential for a lot of improvement and it is crucial that we keep him in the program going forward. He is the best recruit we have had since the Murray brothers.
I'm pretty sure Brock was a higher ranked recruit than Owen.
Edit: Unless you're talking about potential wise. Then I'd probably agree with ya.
I watched his Drake team against Souther Illinois this weekend. Highly engaging guy & coaches the entire game.
We could hope Owen has a 12 pound cyst that needs removed.
I’m talking about the quality of scholarship offers that Owen had. Most of the top teams in the Big Ten offered Owen, Brock only had mid-major offers
Yup. Get him in a place that will push/require him to do things the correct way and he could be a really good player. He’s in open gym mode at Iowa
Owen is better athlete than Garza was. Garza hasn't made it at NBA level and at this point, neither would Freeman. However, Freeman has enough athleticism to defend/rebound if he were to develop some shooting touch.
I don't think Freeman shutting down is lack of character. He is professional player, underpaid by today's NIL standard and playing for a Coach that is not very good. Let's get a new coach and hopefully there is a chance we can come up with NIL and bring Dix and Freeman back. Another year of Fran means Dix and Freeman both leave because they can see the No Defense system is not competitive.
Garza has been in the NBA for 4 years now. He just dropped 16 pts last week with a solid stat line. What are you smoking.
Ryan Kreiner is still playing overseas. Freeman is already a way better player as a Sophomore. Of course he can play overseas.
The last point is important.
Fran’s failure isn’t just X’s and O’s. He can’t survive in the NIL era because he’s not good at engaging with the fanbase and drumming up interest/money.
The last three coaches have been largely unlikeable. We desperately need an engaging, charismatic coach
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