Dan Dakich

[TDJ7]

Comments made during the Penn St/Mich St game tonight

"Iowa has never based their program on toughness and that's why they never win the conference"

Couldn't agree more.

 

[goodbyebobby]

Dakich is fantastic because he tells it straight up and people don't like hearing it bluntly.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Comments made during the Penn St/Mich St game tonight

"Iowa has never based their program on toughness and that's why they never win the conference"

Couldn't agree more.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Dakich is fantastic because he tells it straight up and people don't like hearing it bluntly.

Woodbury poked some dudes in the eye

 

[goodbyebobby]

Woodbury poked some dudes in the eye

He did.

 

[hawkisak]

I don't disagree a bit but it also comes back to the types of players that Fran recruits. He gets guys who can shoot 3 and get up and down the court. His roster is more like the 70's ABA players. Unfortunately, the Big Ten style is more like the Pistons Bad Boys. The physicality takes a toll through the grind of a 20 game BT season. A true junkyard dog 4 would really help. If we could clone Ed Horton, that would be a start!

 

[djwoody]

He’s not wrong and he can still kiss my ass.

 

[icwesthawk]

Fran has had more success and a better winning % than Jockitch had as a head coach. Simply because he has a big platform from which to speak doesn't mean he should and also doesn't mean you should believe what he is spewing.

 

[Hawkfan_08]

We are soft mentally and physically. I still think we have talented kids on the team but there has got to be another motor in these guys.

 

[jimbob22]

Dakich is fantastic because he tells it straight up and people don't like hearing it bluntly.

Dakich is a load of steaming shite, desperate for attention, trying to be a Bill Walton, without Walton's imagination. Not surprising the anti-Fran sheep embrace this nonsense.

 

[goodbyebobby]

Dakich is a load of steaming shite, desperate for attention, trying to be a Bill Walton, without Walton's imagination. Not surprising the anti-Fran sheep embrace this nonsense.

I don't dislike Fran but I do like your generalization.
Dakich is nothing like Walton as I don't think he partakes and he knows the league very well.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

I don't disagree a bit but it also comes back to the types of players that Fran recruits. He gets guys who can shoot 3 and get up and down the court. His roster is more like the 70's ABA players. Unfortunately, the Big Ten style is more like the Pistons Bad Boys. The physicality takes a toll through the grind of a 20 game BT season. A true junkyard dog 4 would really help. If we could clone Ed Horton, that would be a start!

yeah, but they way they analyze every little contact on replay these days....don't think Big Ed would stay on the court too long! (neither would Kingsbury - aka Marlboro Man)

 

[hawkifann]

Dakich is a load of steaming shite, desperate for attention, trying to be a Bill Walton, without Walton's imagination. Not surprising the anti-Fran sheep embrace this nonsense.

You spelled “a really good color guy” wrong.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

“There’s real tough and there’s fake tough. Iowa is real tough” (paraphrasing)

-Dakich a few weeks ago.

 

[Eternal Return]

Comments made during the Penn St/Mich St game tonight

"Iowa has never based their program on toughness and that's why they never win the conference"

Couldn't agree more.

Never? That's too far and not true. But under Fran? Yeah, not tough-minded guys for the most part. There have been guys like Baer, but not many.

 

[Hawks4Life86]

“There’s real tough and there’s fake tough. Iowa is real tough” (paraphrasing)

-Dakich a few weeks ago.

He said that about Garza, not the team.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Fran has had more success and a better winning % than Jockitch had as a head coach.

BANNER TIME!!! That really is an impressive body of work!

Do you know if the cbb HOF has been alerted? If not, they should be.

Simply because he has a big platform from which to speak doesn't mean he should and also doesn't mean you should believe what he is spewing.

...and yet...the stubborn fact remains that Iowa has not won the Big Ten in 42 years and counting...

What, in your expert opinion, is the reason?

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Not surprising the anti-Fran sheep embrace this nonsense.

In your expert opinion as a fiercely independent thinker, what general level of achievement should Iowa fans reasonably expect from a head coach over the course of a decade?

What sort of milestones should reasonably mark a “successful” decade long tenure at Iowa?

For example, in Bo Ryan’s first ten years at Wisconsin he won three big ten regular season titles, one big ten tournament title and went to two NCAA tourney sweet sixteens and one elite eight.

Bo took over an established program. Fran didn’t. Bo is a HOF coach. Fran isn’t. So of course, it’s not reasonable for Iowa fans to expect results anywhere close to that.

In his first ten years at Michigan, John Beilein won two regular season big ten titles, one big ten tournament title, and had one sweet sixteen, one elite eight and one national title game appearance.

Beilein took over a mess but it’s Michigan not Iowa. So, of course, there is no way Iowa fans should ever expect anything close to those kinds of results.

But what is reasonable to expect for this program over that time period?

Should Iowa, for instance, ever expect to win a big ten regular season title? Would that ever be reasonable? A sweet sixteen appearance? Is that a reasonable expectation over ten years for Iowa?

Is it reasonable to have any expectations at all? Ever?

 

[iahawks10]

...and yet...the stubborn fact remains that Iowa has not won the Big Ten in 42 years and counting...

What, in your expert opinion, is the reason?

Yes, Iowa has not won a B1G in 42 years because Fran’s teams in the last ten years have not been tough. That’s it. Gold.

Expert opinions? Around here, good luck. Let’s hear what other B1G coaches think about Iowa. In the B1G they rank Iowa’s recruiting base dead last. They ranked Iowa’s facilities 12th. Iowa’s media exposure 10th and their financial resources 13th. Iowa’s game atmosphere is 11th (ahead of PSU, Rutgers, and NW lol) and it’s history/tradition ranked 9th.

I’m sure we’ve all seen these rankings. Iowa ranked as the 11th most difficult job according to other coaches. Behind Nebraska and Minnesota. Of the 8 categories, Iowa ranked in the bottom third of all of them besides admission requirements (1) and history/tradition (9).

Perhaps a few of these things, or maybe a combination of all of them are reasons why Iowa has not won a conference title in 42 years. The toughness of Fran’s teams in the last 10 seasons is more likely the reason.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Yes, Iowa has not won a B1G in 42 years because Fran’s teams in the last ten years have not been tough. That’s it. Gold.

Expert opinions? Around here, good luck. Let’s hear what other B1G coaches think about Iowa. In the B1G they rank Iowa’s recruiting base dead last. They ranked Iowa’s facilities 12th. Iowa’s media exposure 10th and their financial resources 13th. Iowa’s game atmosphere is 11th (ahead of PSU, Rutgers, and NW lol) and it’s history/tradition ranked 9th.

I’m sure we’ve all seen these rankings. Iowa ranked as the 11th most difficult job according to other coaches. Behind Nebraska and Minnesota. Of the 8 categories, Iowa ranked in the bottom third of all of them besides admission requirements (1) and history/tradition (9).

Perhaps a few of these things, or maybe a combination of all of them are reasons why Iowa has not won a conference title in 42 years. The toughness of Fran’s teams in the last 10 seasons is more likely the reason.

Gold!

In your expert opinion as a fiercely independent thinker, what general level of achievement should Iowa fans reasonably expect from a head coach over the course of a decade?

What sort of milestones should reasonably mark a “successful” decade long tenure at Iowa?

For example, in Bo Ryan’s first ten years at Wisconsin he won three big ten regular season titles, one big ten tournament title and went to two NCAA tourney sweet sixteens and one elite eight.

Bo took over an established program. Fran didn’t. Bo is a HOF coach. Fran isn’t. So of course, it’s not reasonable for Iowa fans to expect results anywhere close to that.

In his first ten years at Michigan, John Beilein won two regular season big ten titles, one big ten tournament title, and had one sweet sixteen, one elite eight and one national title game appearance.

Like Fran, Beilein took over a mess but it was at glamor program Michigan not short bus program Iowa. So, of course, there is no way Iowa fans should ever expect anything close to those kinds of results.

But what is reasonable to expect for this program over that time period?

Should Iowa, for instance, ever expect to win a big ten regular season title? Would that ever be reasonable? A sweet sixteen appearance? Is that a reasonable expectation over ten years for Iowa?

Is it reasonable to have any expectations at all? Ever?

Is this a “ridiculous question?” Should I “know better than this?”

I’ll hang up and listen. Thanks!

 

[iahawks10]

Gold!

In your expert opinion as a fiercely independent thinker, what general level of achievement should Iowa fans reasonably expect from a head coach over the course of a decade?

What sort of milestones should reasonably mark a “successful” decade long tenure at Iowa?

For example, in Bo Ryan’s first ten years at Wisconsin he won three big ten regular season titles, one big ten tournament title and went to two NCAA tourney sweet sixteens and one elite eight.

Bo took over an established program. Fran didn’t. Bo is a HOF coach. Fran isn’t. So of course, it’s not reasonable for Iowa fans to expect results anywhere close to that.

In his first ten years at Michigan, John Beilein won two regular season big ten titles, one big ten tournament title, and had one sweet sixteen, one elite eight and one national title game appearance.

Like Fran, Beilein took over a mess but it was at glamor program Michigan not short bus program Iowa. So, of course, there is no way Iowa fans should ever expect anything close to those kinds of results.

But what is reasonable to expect for this program over that time period?

Should Iowa, for instance, ever expect to win a big ten regular season title? Would that ever be reasonable? A sweet sixteen appearance? Is that a reasonable expectation over ten years for Iowa?

Is it reasonable to have any expectations at all? Ever?

I’ll hang up and listen. Thanks!

Michigan was a mess when Beilein arrived? If 44 wins and .500 in conference the two seasons combined before he arrived is a mess, I’d hate hear what you’d say Fran walked into.

Michigan is such a tough job that they were able to poach Beilein from West Virginia after two NCAA tournaments and an NIT championship in his last three years at WVU. I wonder why Iowa has never tried this approach. The way you make it sound, coaches are knocking down Barta’s door to apply here.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Michigan was a mess when Beilein arrived? If 44 wins and .500 in conference the two seasons combined before he arrived is a mess, I’d hate hear what you’d say Fran walked into.

Michigan is such a tough job that they were able to poach Beilein from West Virginia after two NCAA tournaments and an NIT championship in his last three years at WVU. I wonder why Iowa has never tried this approach. The way you make it sound, coaches are knocking down Barta’s door to apply here.

that’s what you pick out of there? Lol. Wut? That’s really your response?

The two previous coaches, Elerbe (.313) and amacker .(448) were both fired. So ... yeah..the program was way down for over a decade. A mess by any measure.

But if you think .500 in conference is pretty good, and an NIT championship is some kind of noteworthy accomplishment, I do think I understand where your coming from.

How about just under .500 in conference over a decade? Pretty damn good for a short bus program like Iowa, right? Is that about where you fall?

You could actually answer the question and remove all doubt.

 

[iahawks10]

that’s what you pick out of there? Lol. Wut? That’s really your response?

The two previous coaches, Elerbe (.313) and amacker .(448) were both fired. So ... yeah..the program was way down for over a decade. A mess by any measure.

But if you think .500 in conference is pretty good, I do think I know where your coming from. How about just under .500 in conference over a decade? Pretty damn good for a short bus program like Iowa, right? Is that about where you fall?

yes they both walked into messes. Lol. Michigan was 22-13 (8-8) and 22-11 (8-8). Meanwhile in Lickliterland, Iowa was 10-22 (4-14) and 15-17 (5-13). Do I think .500 in conference is good? Relative to .333 at Iowa, absolutely.

 

[innercircle287]

Dakich is a load of steaming shite, desperate for attention, trying to be a Bill Walton, without Walton's imagination. Not surprising the anti-Fran sheep embrace this nonsense.

Bill Walton is one of the dumbest bastards that's ever called a game.

 

[blockm2]

Michigan had a decade of no NCAA tournament appearances prior to Beilein arriving. To be fair to Amaker, he did have them as a regular NIT team and middle of the pack Big Ten team (in a much weaker conference than currently). Beilein's problem when he arrived in Ann Arbor was that few of the players Amaker had recruited could play in his system so it required a total overhaul which is why they were terrible his first season.

 

[Underscore2]

You mean this B1G "toughness" requirement that has been instrumental in the number of B1G teams winning the NCAA tournament? My answer to that is fire all the B1G refs. Hire new refs familiar with the ACC. Then fire Warren.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

Dakich absolutely makes good points, but his percentage is about 30-35%. Otherwise it seems he says things because he read the business cards ESPN gave him that say "analyst" so he feels he needs to talk constantly. Yes, he played at Indiana with some very good players. Yes, he was a coach. But pretty sure his resume doesn't scream 'success'.
As has been pointed out, he's contradicted himself many times--I've even heard him contradict himself within the same game when "analyzing" things. He is what he is; some really like him, some really don't, and many in between. I guess my bottom line is him commenting on anything holds a lot less weight than it would coming from many others doing what he does.

 

[Titanhawk2]

Coming from a guy that played for Bob Knight, what else is he comparing it to?

 

[Rifler]

Dakich tends to cheer the winner and offer explanations for why the loser is losing,.. Because of this, he's mostly acceptable when your team is playing well, but when your team is playing badly he's unbearable...

 

[Stormn Norman]

He seemed to have a lot of little side comments that struck me as directed to the Hawks.. even emphasized how good Izzo was at subbing for better defense immediately when he noticed Loyer & Hauser starting give up points..he was right just failed to mentioned that State is still trash this year thou.. lol

 

[Rifler]

Dan plays the odds,.. In an Iowa vs Michigan State match up he will always come out praising Izzo because the odds say that's where the game is going to go,.. If however, Iowa manages to take control of the game Dakich will then resort to cheering for Fran, because when the object of his praise wins, it makes him look knowledgeable...

 

[NoSwampDonkeys]

I've said this to my friends for years. Fran recruits "nice guys". Garza is one that would be considered tough. Cook was at times, I think Joe T has the potential to be. But for the most part the team is made up of a bunch of guys that are too nice. To really excel they need an influx of guys that are going to be physical, talk some trash to get in the opponents head and any time there is any kind of scuffle, be the Horton or Kent Hill and not be afraid to pick up a T to stand up for your guys. That doesn't mean being stupid about things, but it does mean, not being afraid to establish/assert their dominance and physical will.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

I hope our boys hear this. And I'm sure they already have.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

yes they both walked into messes. Lol. Michigan was 22-13 (8-8) and 22-11 (8-8). Meanwhile in Lickliterland, Iowa was 10-22 (4-14) and 15-17 (5-13). Do I think .500 in conference is good? Relative to .333 at Iowa, absolutely.

I guess you can't answer the question (what general level of achievement should Iowa fans reasonably expect from a head coach over the course of a decade? What sort of milestones should reasonably mark a “successful” decade long tenure at Iowa?)


It's okay. You're still learning, and it's probably still to early to determine. I mean.... Fran's only been here 11 years.

...or is that your answer? -- .500 in conference is a good reasonable expectation?

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

To quote the great DMX "the preacher is telling the truth and it hurts"

 

[Ronman]

McCaffery needs to recruit more "tough guys" like Izzo does. Guys that aren't afraid of assaulting women, knowing they will only, at best, get a slap on the wrist. Instead, McCaffery brings in kids that are good citizens and good students. Kids that the Iowa fans can be proud of to represent the university. No wonder we suck!

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Kinda funny a guy who likes to play the tough guy from the streets of Philly persona can't coach up a team to be tough and lashes out when confronted with criticism.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I actually liked Jockitch when he first started announcing. Now, I prefer not to listen to anything he says. Glad we haven't had him on many Iowa games recently.

 

[NoSwampDonkeys]

McCaffery needs to recruit more "tough guys" like Izzo does. Guys that aren't afraid of assaulting women, knowing they will only, at best, get a slap on the wrist. Instead, McCaffery brings in kids that are good citizens and good students. Kids that the Iowa fans can be proud of to represent the university. No wonder we suck!

That is possibly one of the dumbest sarcastic comments I have heard in a long time. Why can't they be both? Look at the football team. Kirk is able to recruit guys that are "assassins" on the field and nice guys off. All they do is turn on or off, the competitive switch. Basketball players can do the same. I loved Joe T's comment about hating everyone on the court on the other teams. That is being tough and not afraid of anyone and not backing down.

There is a huge difference in being tough vs being a punk ass. I suppose guys that were here in years past that were tough were an embarrassment too? Paging...Ed Horton, Kenyon, Millard, Lorenzen, James Winters, J Moses, Jess Settles, Duez, Greg Bruner, Luka Garza and many others.

 

[jimbob22]

McCaffery needs to recruit more "tough guys" like Izzo does. Guys that aren't afraid of assaulting women, knowing they will only, at best, get a slap on the wrist. Instead, McCaffery brings in kids that are good citizens and good students. Kids that the Iowa fans can be proud of to represent the university. No wonder we suck!

Right on! well-said.