Harding gets absolutely bullied in the pick and roll. But it’s not all his fault as Fran doesn’t teach defense.
Dasonte Bowen has entered the Transfer Portal (Commits to St. Bonaventure). He was supposed to be "the" PG that Fran finally landed
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Let's check out Wis frosh guard Blackwell today who comes off their bench and could match up vs Bowen/ Harding.
That will be a glimpse into the future altho Hepburn is only a junior.
Wis guard rotation is pretty solid.
That will be a glimpse into the future altho Hepburn is only a junior.
Wis guard rotation is pretty solid.
Harding also let his man get past him into the lane causing Freeman to pick up his 3rd foul.
He gambles too much, purposely letting a guy go by him & trying to slap the ball away. This is a HS move and rarely works against D1 players. It disrupts defensive sets and creates a lot of open looks for the other teams. Please look at the whole, not just the one steal.
What do you consider small? Brock's not heavy enough or 6 foot is too short to play at this level. There's a lot of 6 foot and under players at this level, all over college basketball.
The guard that you want Iowa to recruit is not going to come to Iowa, you know that right! Fran is already playing 4 forwards at the same time and it's not working and in fact Fran's best players over the last 14 years have been forwards, very few centers, and even fewer actual point guards. Brock is a true point guard and occasionally will as you and others have said "get sucked under the basket". By the way you and others are extremely happy with the defense that Krikke plays, is that an arcuate assessment?
In fact if you look at each and every player on Iowa's roster, everyone of them has some deficiency's whether they are too slow, not tall enough, can't jump, can't rebound, can't hit the 3 pointers consistently, can't play defense, uses their hands too much, can't make layups. and I'm sure I'm missing more. Get the point, no basketball player is prefect, but I'll take Brock any day of the week and on Sunday. Now he's not ready for big minutes, but give him more time in the weight room and more experience and he will be just want the doctor ordered....
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No one on any of these threads has said anything positive about Krikke's defense or rebounding.
Harding will get his time for the next few years. He does need to hit the weight room in the off season.
I am concerned that Bowen has regressed from playing pretty well when he was in the rotation at the start of the year, back to looking almost clueless at the offensive end. A big part of that is who is on the court with him most of the time, but he seems to have lost confidence. I still think he has really good quickness and handles, and worked hard to add strength, but right now, he isn't using those skills.
I am concerned that Bowen has regressed from playing pretty well when he was in the rotation at the start of the year, back to looking almost clueless at the offensive end. A big part of that is who is on the court with him most of the time, but he seems to have lost confidence. I still think he has really good quickness and handles, and worked hard to add strength, but right now, he isn't using those skills.
And what positive comments have you said about Brock, most of your comments have only been negative. Yes we know Desonte is your guy, and he'd be our guy too if he played better as a sophomore.
I hope he sticks it out and stays at Iowa, he is a good slasher and he is another combo guard completely different then Brock, that could help Iowa down the line. Let's see how devoted he is to Fran and Iowa after the season is over, I hope he stays.
I think Brock could develop into a capable back up, a change of pace player to provide a spark. just needs to clean a few things up on D. Some of this is on Fran for not coaching him up. Desonte has been in Fran's doghouse for some reason. Just saying we could use an upgrade at the PG & power forward positions.
I'm not sure what Fran's problems are in recruiting, It seems that the only type of players he's comfortable in recruiting are forwards and combo guards and as I've said, legit centers and legit point guards have been like poison ivy to him.
Harding with a great 1st half vs Wisconsin. 6 points, 1 assist, 1 rebound and generally solid play. No sign of Bown in 1st half.
He’s the only Iowa player with vision and he has the kind of moxie you need in a pg. his defense is probably the best we have out front. He actually can help and recover. Everyone on our team gets beat like a rented mule out front so why would you complain about a few risks.
you lost me when you said his defense is best we have. Watch Dix defend v. Brock reaching...
There were 225 minutes of playing time available today in Iowa's 88-86 OT win over Wisconsin.
Dasonte did not play.
Minutes:
38: Dix
38: Owen
36: Perkins
34: Payton
27: Ben
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21: PMac
13: Pryce
9: Brock
9: Ladji
0: Dasonte
0: Brauns
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225 TOTAL
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Dasonte did not play.
Minutes:
38: Dix
38: Owen
36: Perkins
34: Payton
27: Ben
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21: PMac
13: Pryce
9: Brock
9: Ladji
0: Dasonte
0: Brauns
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225 TOTAL
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Hate to say it, but would not be the least bit surprised if Bowen transfers out.
good dude he’s just not P5 material
People seem to dog on Harding's offers coming out of high school. What were Bowen's offers? I think because Bowen is black and from the east coast people had high expectations for him. Probably not popular to say but true. Harding has the greater resume coming in to college. He just needs to be given minutes to play through mistakes and not be looking over his shoulder all the time. I think the 2 players who take the biggest steps next year are Harding and Dix.
Plus, he and Freeman have a bond. Those two are going to hook up on a lot of baskets over the next few years.
You shouldn't say that, are you privy to Iowa's practices? All we know is Desonte could have been sick or had a slight injury, although watching him on the bench and after the game he didn't look sick or inquired. Just another head scratching Fran substitution gaffe.
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didn't get a shot off, had 0 points, 1 defensive rebound, 1 assist, and 1 turnover.
The dynamic duo of Patrick and Krikke had a combined 7 points and 6 rebounds in 48 minutes.
Krikke has to be closing in on Mike Gessels season record for being blocked.
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Dix already made a big leap this year. Did you watch today's game? Harding will need to make a huge leap if Perkins doesn't return.
I hear Dix/Harding is quite the combo, or so she said...
Looks like Rutgers, Penn St, Maryland, Seaton Hall, Northwestern, Virginia tech, USC, Miami, Boston College and Iowa.
He'll probably transfer to another p5 school next year and do fine. He's got plenty of talent just playing for a weird coach.
Bowen started the year as the starting PG. He has talent. His problem right now is between his ears, and that problem is developing into a problem with the white guy wearing glasses sitting a little ways down the bench. Confidence in sports does amazing things.
Josh Ogundele and Desonte Bowen played on the same high school team. Josh was recruited and came to Iowa and the next year Desonte decided to come to Iowa. Both players were 3 star. The Iowa fan base was gaga about Josh calling him big O and wanting Fran to play him more, looking back now there is no question that Freeman is by far the better of the 2 Big O's and Ogundele is better suited at Middle Tennessee Stat. Win, Win for both players.
Hope Bowen stays but if he doesn't stick it out it will be Iowa's loss. Really like the kid, he just hasn't got comfortable yet, Fran's rotations tend to do that to some players.
Hope Bowen stays but if he doesn't stick it out it will be Iowa's loss. Really like the kid, he just hasn't got comfortable yet, Fran's rotations tend to do that to some players.
I'd argue his confidence is shot because of Fran. He gets zero pt and when he does get in he is yanked after one mistake. Other guys don't seem to have that issue. I've never been able to figure this one out with him.
I'm firmly in the boat that Bowen and Harding need to play more. I was whining about Dix not getting more minutes because he had no role on the team early in the year. Now that he's been given extended minutes he's been terrific. I know there's so much more that goes into this but here my lineup that I'm still hoping for, but know I won't see.
Bowen/Harding
Dix/Pryce
Perkins/Pat
Sandy/Dembele
Freeman/Krikke/Brauns
The starting group gets the vast majority of the time. Harding would get the most time in the group. Go small, who cares? We don't rebound anyway.
One ball defense is only part of the defensive equation. Watch off the ball to really see what’s going on. Harding is great off the ball as is dembele and freeman. Those that are just awful pmac #1 Krikke 2.
The reaching is bad but his anticipation/court awareness/ help defense are as good as we’ve got.
Dix is easily the best perimeter defender and Fran knows this. Josh will have the pressure of always guarding the best perimeter player on the other team for now. Guarding great offensive players tends to take away some juice from the offensive side. I think so far Josh has done very well. If PMAC had pockets on his shorts his hands would probably be in them. He has no interest in defense, or rebounding for that matter. Harding will have a difficult time being able to guard the 6'4" and up guards in the league. They will be able to just shoot over him. I hope he turns out to be all B1G but it's pretty easy to see why the big names stayed away.
Our frosh (sans Owen) play like frosh...up and down...thats ok.
Owen is going to be our first FOY since Jess...fabulous.
Dix has matured very much thru this season and could reach Wieskamp levels over the next two years.
Bowen is on a Ulis track...useful if he sticks.
Brock is impactful especially when he makes shots.
The 2 guys who struggled most yesterday are gone next year but I think Ladji and Tadjo and Koch can replace them.
Come back Tony...pay the man!
Owen is going to be our first FOY since Jess...fabulous.
Dix has matured very much thru this season and could reach Wieskamp levels over the next two years.
Bowen is on a Ulis track...useful if he sticks.
Brock is impactful especially when he makes shots.
The 2 guys who struggled most yesterday are gone next year but I think Ladji and Tadjo and Koch can replace them.
Come back Tony...pay the man!
Yes, I did watch the game. Sounds like you think Dix is maxed out? I don't think he's even close to his potential. More strength and a more aggressive mindset and he's an all conference player. Harding wouldn't be directly replacing Perkins anyway. He's never going to be the scorer Perkins is, his strength would be putting others in a position to score. I can tell you dislike Harding and I agree he has a lot of room for improvement. I also would bet right now that when he is a senior he gets all conference votes. I think that kid has a chip on his shoulder and a Garza level desire to get better.
Yeah Krikke has been exposed in B1G play last 10 games but I don't think he can approach Mike Gessel in getting shots swatted...I think teams baited Gessel by allowing a successful drive early in game so he'd try to drive again later in game at a critical juncture and they's swat it and seal the win.
Similar athlete to JoeW, but not as strong and Dix takes a lot more pride in defense. JoeW was a strong rebounder but lazy defender. Bobby Hansen probably the better comparison.
I'd much rather have Brock in the game than Patrick or Krikke.
There was a lost opportunity this season to simultaneously get the young guys up to speed for next year while also ending up a better team right now.
If Dix develops the same "attitude" that Hansen played with his last couple of years, he will have a chance to be on some all-B1G teams, especially all-defense.
This could be a really good team next year if Tony comes back and Patrick leaves. Patrick and Krikke's departure will give almost 60 minutes for the other players to fill. Defense will be MUCH better, and I think the offense will be at least as good. Besides the development of the underclassmen, we have a couple of really good freshman players coming in. One of the key players to develop will be Dembele.
