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You see my point, though, right? We're already on this pathway. So why do we need Trump to fix it?

It's a weedy path with lots of forks in the road, and we will require multiple administrations to continue "fixing it",... Trump included.
 
It's a weedy path with lots of forks in the road, and we will require multiple administrations to continue "fixing it",... Trump included.
I guess I'm at a loss then why Trump was needed to fix it. Certain Harris would continue this pathway, right?
 
And who created the inflation? Who created the problem the last four years that Trump needs to fix? 40 year high inflation and record level credit card debt. It’s almost like you don’t want him to succeed. He is the pilot of our plane and you hope it crashes.
The banking system installed in 1913 created the conditions for inflation. And until they replace the ‘funny money’ with honest money everyone will go on blaming the other side for it.

During election years, incumbent presidents are routinely blamed for every societal ill during the previous four years. And almost nothing is riper for the picking than a significant rise in consumer prices. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), prices are currently increasing at a rate of 3 percent year over year and peaked at 8 percent during President Biden’s term in 2022.

That is significantly higher “inflation,” as the BLS defines it, than American consumers have experienced in decades. But as economically harmful as many of President Biden’s policies may have been, no president can cause prices in general to rise. Neither can Congress or “greedy corporations.”

Incidentally, “inflation” as an economic term originally meant the creation of new money and credit, not rising prices. Those wishing to confuse the public on which is the cause and which the effect has gradually redefined inflation as rising prices. Check any hard copy Merriam-Webster dictionary printed in the 20th century and see for yourself.

Only the Federal Reserve can cause a general rise in prices and only when it creates new US dollars that didn’t previously exist (inflation).

 
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Trump signed $3 trillion in new pandemic spending. He undoubtedly helped create inflation.
It was 2.3 trillion and some economist say he didn’t go far enough. Trump added 6.5 trillion with 2.3 trillion coming in COVID relief.
Biden added 7.9 trillion to the nation debt.

1/3 of our national debt has come from the two presidents. Those are the facts.
 
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Remember those stats about liberal women and mental health issues? Yeah..
What a pos Mother. They are little kids that should only worry about what they are going to do on the play ground or what’s for lunch. Elections or politics shouldn’t even be spoken about unless to teach them the time lines of an election or that our political leaders are picked by voting for a candidate.

When I was a kid, never heard my parents speak about politics in front of us or about the candidates. They wanted us to worry about being kids and taking care of our school work. And never heard negative or positive about election results, just another day and time to go back to work. Again, what a terrible set of patents.
 
What a pos Mother. They are little kids that should only worry about what they are going to do on the play ground or what’s for lunch. Elections or politics shouldn’t even be spoken about unless to teach them the time lines of an election or that our political leaders are picked by voting for a candidate.

When I was a kid, never heard my parents speak about politics in front of us or about the candidates. They wanted us to worry about being kids and taking care of our school work. And never heard negative or positive about election results, just another day and time to go back to work. Again, what a terrible set of patents.
I don't know that i'd go that far. In fact, i might go the opposite directions. At least in early childhood, kids should be taught that the president, and the presidency, is someone/thing to respect. They can figure out which ones they like and don't like later, but they need to understand appreciate the importance of the office first.
 
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@eb05 and @GOHOX69 still refuse to honor their bets on the election. Is this behavior typical of democrats in general?

Tv Land Tew Much GIF by YoungerTV
 
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I’m curious, what exactly makes you think you are superior to everyone else in this world. You were out voted yet all I see from you guys is that everyone else is an “idiot”, “dumbest country in the world” and so on.
70% of American didn’t like the direction the country was going in. We had Trump in office 4 years ago so Americans can in fact compare the past two presidents/vice presidents. Clearly people were in fact better off under Trump.
You refuse to see it and think Americans are stupid even though it’s not a rash decisions like we think we will be better off under Trump.
What makes it even more confusing is you can’t support someone’s political decisions but you can easily get behind something thinking they are a sex different than what they are born. Science says they are what they were born. Yet you say non democrats refuse to believe science.
I just don’t get how you think you are ever so important and special.

70% of Americans? May want to check your math there.

Hopefully this will be the republican administration that leaves the country better off than when they started. History says otherwise but that is just history.
 
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I think all the posts gloating about this election and antagonizing the left are just begging for karma to take a dump on them. The political tide will shift. It always does. In 2 or 4 years the board Democrats will probably have a field day, and they will be justified in being obnoxious about it.

The pendulum keeps swinging.
 
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70% of Americans? May want to check your math there.

Hopefully this will be the republican administration that leaves the country better off than when they started. History says otherwise but that is just history.

My apologies 65% while only 28% said it was on the right track. Time to start reading something other than liberal news today.

 
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False premise. On average we are more educated but that doesn't make us "better", nor do I think so. The average gay democrat is wealthier.

There’s definitely a lot of smugness lately and it’s not the democrats. Talk about feeling superior.
 
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I don't know that i'd go that far. In fact, i might go the opposite directions. At least in early childhood, kids should be taught that the president, and the presidency, is someone/thing to respect. They can figure out which ones they like and don't like later, but they need to understand appreciate the importance of the office first.

Interesting theory. You hear 4-5 year olds in the south complain about liberals. They are taught early.
 
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My complaint on this topic is that inflation in the range of 9% should have never happened,.. Multiple economists warned Biden that he was playing with fire, and we got burned,... It will take 8-10 years of slow wage growth to eventually reclaim what the average US consumer has lost...

Interesting how you guys continue to blame inflation on Biden. Inflation started in 2020. Trump played a major role. The correction to inflation already happened and we have been on the right trajectory for inflation since 2022. Trump ran on the promise of reducing grocery prices as if Biden was the reason they were high and that Trump had the solution. We will see soon that he does not have the magic formula for lowering prices.
 
70% of Americans. Facepalm

70% of the 1000 people asked. Slight difference.
That’s how surveys work. You should probably realize it’s not to far off though considering who won the election. If you want to keep living in doubt that’s fine. Doesn’t affect me one bit.
 
That’s how surveys work. You should probably realize it’s not to far off though considering who won the election. If you want to keep living in doubt that’s fine. Doesn’t affect me one bit.

About 23% of the country voted for Trump. What am I doubting?
 
Does the election even count then if it doesn’t include everyone legal to vote? The results don’t get everyones opinion.

Umm... yes? Wasn't aware of the requirement of getting everyone's opinion for an election to be valid.

That requirement does exist if you want to claim 70% of the country believes something specific.
 
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Look, people are inherently passionate about their beliefs (if you don't believe me, tell someone their baby is ugly). That's normal, and the 'dumb' response is a pretty normal default response for all of us when we don't come out on the winning side of an argument. So I don't get too worked up by that, particularly in the days immediately after an election in which the winning candidate is pretty undeniably flawed.

I suppose there are some people who I think "ought" to be better -- take a look at the piece in today's WSJ sampling reactions from 'respected' columnists, which not only blame the stupid and lazily invoke the usual tropes, but in one case suggest that the real solution here is for the left to come up with a leftist strongman. (Watch out gavin newsome, Lenny Krasner said '**** around and find out' the other day in a presser. He sounds like he might be a real philly tough guy!) I wonder if there's any sense of irony among them that they are "journalists" yet live in a jurisdiction/echo chamber where (quite literally) 94% of the population voted for the same candidate.

Beyond that, I'd certainly "hope" that every elected president, given their election, gets at least 'some' chance to govern, even if it's a very short one, before the 'loyal opposition' converts into 'the resistance'. Even Trump, who i don't really think got much of a chance his first time around.

But where i really draw the line is the inability of some people to eventually take a deep breath and stop with the whole "othering" exercise when it comes to social relationships and human interaction. For example, after yesterday's harris event, some 80 year old lady was quoted as how she felt like she needed to really reassess her 'circle' to make sure that her acquaintances didn't do the 'wrong' thing. Vance referenced the phenomenon the other day in his response to my niece's question, and I've certainly seen it with people i know personally. Honestly, if you're really and truly in that camp (which thankfully most probably aren't), good riddance. You're probably in the wrong place. Perhaps less dramatically, here in my new home (which went a little north of 60% Harris), i have been shocked by the fact that on not one, but several, occasions, people I'm having a perfectly amicable chat with on some mundane topic will eventually say or ask something like "I hope you won't be offended if I told you I was a trump supporter." No, I wouldn't, any more than if you told me you were a harris supporter, because these are precisely the kinds of conversations we need to have with each other. But there are those who would, and more importantly, who would have no further normal human interactions with that person. Candidly, in my admittedly limited experience, those people seem to be more common on the left side of the spectrum.

This is a very good post.

Good job @Aardvark86

The hyberole and overreaction by both sides is exhausting.

The very short answer to all of this is there seems to be very few adults left in the room if you will. Agree to disagree with the person next to you and move on.

There is a severe shortage of self-accountability by society right now. Its impossible to put a tangible percentage on it, but I just personally feel there are a lot of problems people could fix about their lives my making different choices themselves (no I am not just talking about "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps" either), regardless of who is in office, but yet its always easier to want to blame someone else (i.e. whoever is in office).

***and yes I do also realize there are indeed issues that people face that are directly related to who is in office as well
 
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