Did Bush Sr plan to assassinate Reagan?
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So, by your brilliant logic, there would be no need for police detectives or insurance investigators? You don't need 'hard evidence' to start an investigation. You investigate to find hard evidence. This isn't difficult. All I said in my initial post was that, "Maybe it should be looked at". Cui bono has been around since the days of Cicero. Do we all of the sudden throw it out the window because you are so conditioned to rule out conspiracies and brand anyone who dares broach the subject a kook? That's crazy! Politicians conspire on a daily basis. Deal with it.
I'll guess we'll never know because Bush, the man who stood to gain the most with Reagan's demise, was never investigated. Like I said earlier, if a wealthy spouse was knocked off, the 1st person you look into is the one benefitting from a lucrative insurance policy. This was never the case. Bush was the CIA Dir. The Secret Service receives their credentials from the CIA. When you're Mr. Establishment, things get swept under the rug.
Saying that an assassination attempt on the President of the United States was never investigated is one hell of an accusation to make. Suggesting that the investigation was started and pointed towards the Vice President, but was swept under the rug, is lunacy without proof that this occurred. You idiots have no idea what you're talking about. The notion that everyone associated with this case was loyal to the VP, and nobody held any loyalty to Reagan at any level such that they all conspired to NOT investigate or worse, cover up evidence to protect Bush is beyond idiotic. Come on...
Clearly you need to read up on George HW Bush's history. You're underestimating these types of men. You've never seen it, you're a happy dappy type, and have no ability to see the dark side of life. It's there whether you like it or not. THAT is the real world boy. You're showing nothing by fearful neglect here.
There are LOTS of reasons to at least LOOK into the situation more. First off the Bush family was very closely associated with the Hinckley family. Also, like Nat said, in ANY investigation that involves murder or attempted murder. You immediately look for reasons, associations and benefactors as possible suspects. That's just common sense, investigation 101 if you will. You are naïve, you are weak minded, and you aren't able to see the blood without wincing. Do not tell us what you believe is true in your little Ragle Rock fairy land of happy dappy.
That being said,...the lack of investigation and inquiry is a clear sign of either cover-up, or at the very least, their recognition of how the proximity of the Bush and Hinckley relationship could raise some controversial questions.
Now you go back to the treehouse Ragle, go where you believe you are safe.
Prove there was NO investigation? You act as if we're the professionals tasked with starting an investigation... "we should look at who benefitted!" Derp. You're claiming the people tasked with this job either didn't do anything or stopped once they were led to the VP... or were complicit with the act in the first place.
Provide proof.
Calling me naive, or weak, or whatever isn't proof. The fact that conspiracies exist in this world isn't proof that all cases include conspiracies, and it sure as hell isn't proof in this case. The burden is on you to provide proof. I know you won't, because there is none. That is a fact. So why are you still talking?
Look into the facts yourself and let's have that talk then. Yes, they very well could have been derailed in their investigation, especially when the word to stop is coming from the top down. It's called chain of command, and it is an absolutely integral and at the same time backward policy amongst military and agencies. Ask anybody who has been in these types of jobs, such as myself, and they will tell you that you don't just go around f'n around with these level of 'officials'. You listen to what they say, and you play the game. You have no other choice. Even for those that WOULD question that, there are several more that would not at all, because that is what they are TRAINED to do.
You are naïve and somewhat weakfish. The further more you post the more you reveal it to me. I will not hold back on my assessment of you or anyone. Can it change? Sure, but you'll have to give me reason to change that view. You best be glad there are people like me who aren't so quick to just say, "okay sir, whatever you say sir, derp, derp." Even if I say that to someone, there's a very good chance that I simply played along for the moment.
Learn the world Ragle, get out of Ragle Rock once in awhile. It's devious, it's dark, it's deplorable, and it's also the opposite of all of that. You best be believing in conspiracies mate, you live in a country full of them.
TPP for example, tell us about TPP.
You're the one making the accusation and you want me to go research it for you. You're a joke and cannot be taken seriously. Everyone here with an ounce of common sense knows it. Congrats on your leadership role amongst the simpletons. Do you get a special tin-foil crown?
The notion that I or anyone would care how you view them is hard evidence of the delusional fantasy you live in.
No, I want you to go find the information, because whatever I provide you will still dismiss. Your mind is made up and is made up of systematically useless mush. I am much more real than you, despite my theatrical ways, I don't look away from deviance like you do. You're now trying to use group bully behavior to get a rise out of me. You've already got a rise out of me though Raggy...
Speaking of simpletons,..tell us which one of us is looking to more complicated matters and the one that is looking to keep it simple and sweet...the tin foil hat 'insult' is so overplayed. Do you lack originality along with a true connection to this dark and light world we live in? I bet you live in a really nice little home, with a nice little job, with a nice little family, and everything is just swell for you. Good for you Raggy, good for you.
If you provide hard evidence for any of the accusations you're making I will absolutely not dismiss it. I'm skeptical that you know what hard evidence means, but would be delighted to be wrong. As is consistent with your schtick, the notion that you won't provide the proof because I will dismiss it, as opposed to because it doesn't exist, is ludicrous.
No, it is not actually. The reason I wish to delegate you for finding information is so that you can learn a little bit about it yourself. Then when we decide to discuss and I decide to lend out what I know,.......well, we'll save that act for later. Edumucate yourself and come back and then we can continue. Or you can keep trying to insult the Prime of Primes and waste your time in that failed and wasteful effort.
You're funny. Ignorant, but, funny. You make a lame attempt at the pretense of knowledge. I said it before and I'll re-iterate. Maybe this should be looked into.
Example, 18 years before, the CIA bumped off JFK. 3 days after the hit, are you aware of the Katzenbach memo? The Warren Commission? Even Nixon said on the Watergate tapes that it was the greatest hoax ever played on the American people. It should have been titled the Warren cover-up. Why is this so hard to believe? This crap has been going on since Caeser, Brutus and the Ides of March. You're like every school girl who was told by their boyfriend that they love them. They just want to believe.
Wow! You've been on this site for 1 month and you speak for everyone? Flipping douche. See how that works?
I'm not seeing evidence that Bush had Reagan shot. There is more evidence that you two are the same person than there is showing Bush tried to kill Reagan. The same person theory is gaining momentum as it's hard to believe that the 2 dumbest people on earth would frequent the same message board.
Diid you take the short bus to school? Again...for the umpteenth time, I said it should be looked at. Never said there was hard evidence. The laughable part is little drones like yourself who try to tar anyone who dares think outside the 3x5 card of allowable opinion. Fun watching a lib defend a R though. More proof that they are birds of a feather?
Maybe you can try putting down the Adderrall and tell me if you're familiar with the Katzenbach memo.
I wasn't talking to you, did you forget which account you were posting from? Prime has said there is evidence, and you have certainly come to his defense. Now you want to change the topic to Kennedy, an event I have never spoken a word about... we all know two male models capped him from the grassy knoll. Doesn't mean Bush capped Reagan, or that no investigation has ever been done. We're waiting on any shred of evidence to support these claims, until then, keep the idiotic talk coming about how enlightened you are, you're entertaining a lot of people, but sorry, they're not laughing with you.
Well, well, now you brought up JFK. The most obvious hoax of all time. Tell us what you think of that. Me and Nat are not the same person btw.
I assure you, I am only prime. But I'm definitely cooking up something delicious. Stay tuned.
Don't play innocent, it doesn't look good on you. We all know you post from more than one account with more than one personality. I recommend you not even try to defend yourself on this front. Your exploits are already legendary.
Not anymore buddy, I am truly only Prime. You're sounding an awful lot like a conspiracy theorist.
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Timus, its official you are a damn nut. Any one who believes this crap is living in a fantasy world. My advise? Take your meds daily
that's what I was wanting to hear
It's pretty irrational, and even dangerous, to think that every crisis is a perfectly-scripted action by a shadow group. The only thing more irrational and dangerous is thinking that none of them are.
Agreed and thinking there may be some conspiracy in certain situations, doesn't mean people think there is conspiracy in all situations.
That being said, there is also a little bit of the story left out in most situations.
I always love when people use Watergate as their benchmark, go-to proof for disputing everything else. People CAN keep secrets! All of us do it, and that should be proof that the rest of us CAN do it. The Enigma/Ultra code breaking was kept secret for 50 years or more. There are files in the JFK murder that are openly being kept a secret and unavailable to American citizens. I don't know who killed JFK. It very well could have been Oswald. But, without those documents, you'd be a little foolish to insist that you know for sure.
Wow, and to think there is an eye on the dollar bill. Coincidence?Hinkley's father was president of World Vision United States and get this - a symbol of the Illuminati is an eye. A coincidence - I think not!
Actually Hoss, you were talking to me, as posts #41, 69, 85 and 86 clearly demonstrate. What's with the Rubio defense repetitively insinuating HP and I are 1? Is your teleprompter stuck?
I'm not switching topics to Kennedy. I'm illustrating a point to take down your ridiculous statements re: loyalty to the VP over Reagan. Reagan was never accepted by the Brahmins that run this country. Bush is the Patriarch of the Eastern establishment. Andover, Yale, generational Skull & Bonesman, CIA Dir. (also a S&B creation). To believe the VP, Bush, could not be protected, is to forever remain a child.
I point out the Katzenbach memo because it screamed cover-up when JFK was taken out. Since you won't answer my question, I guess I'll have to write it.
November 25, 1963
MEMORANDUM FOR MR. MOYERS
It is important that all of the facts surrounding President Kennedy's Assassination be made public in a way which will satisfy people in the United States and abroad that all the facts have been told and that a statement to this effect be made now.
1. The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial.
We need something to head off public speculation or Congressional hearings of the wrong sort.
This is what's referred to as a smoking cannon.
