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Did he kill her?

I havn't been following this case closely but my understanding of it is basically.

1. Guy and his girlfriend took off on a vacation in a van.
2. Guy returns home without girlfriend. GF's parents call police
3. Security cam photo shows van at a place they traveled to.
4. GF's body is found nearby to where van was photographed
5. Guy disappears soon after GF's body is found.

You know it amazes me that people will plan out murdering someone but can't come up with a better plan to try and get away with it than "return home without her and hope her parents never ask where she is."

But than again I'm kind of glad he's an idiot. Makes justice easier.
Just out of curiosity, how would have you done it?
 
Just out of curiosity, how would have you done it?

I wouldn't because there is no one that I can think of that I would risk life imprisonment just to get rid of.

That said without going into specifics, one would think there are better plans than this. Make it look like an accident in some way. At the very least make them have to conduct an actual investigation in order to prove you did it.

This guy just driving home without his GF and not telling anyone that something happened to her makes it clear that he killed her without much investigation needed.

I mean there is no way to guarantee that you would get away with it. Even with excellent planning you would need some degree of luck to pull it off. But the way he did it, man the police don't even have to really even try. It's completely obvious he killed her.
 
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I havn't been following this case closely but my understanding of it is basically.

1. Guy and his girlfriend took off on a vacation in a van.
2. Guy returns home without girlfriend. GF's parents call police
3. Security cam photo shows van at a place they traveled to.
4. GF's body is found nearby to where van was photographed
5. Guy disappears soon after GF's body is found.

You know it amazes me that people will plan out murdering someone but can't come up with a better plan to try and get away with it than "return home without her and hope her parents never ask where she is."

But than again I'm kind of glad he's an idiot. Makes justice easier.
It was not a security cam but go pro mounted on a couples RV. They found it looking back at footage and reported it to FBI and FBI located body using it within 18 hours. The craziest part that I still feel is not getting enough attention is they found it and FBI subsequently then found her body on the same day as their son’s 17th birthday, who has died in a car 10 years prior. They even said before body was found using the image it felt like it was their son who guided them to look and find the vans image. Hollywood movie stuff.
 
There is enough of a resemblance that if that were a black person, a police officer would stop him, beat him, and maybe kill him. However, the neck tattoo, unless fake, makes this unlikely to be the boyfriend.
You're a sad dude, you know? Desperate to fit in, to be cool. It's not working.
 
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Perfect, just need to distract everyone at the funeral while you slip the dead guy in before Great Aunt Josephine.
I’ve seen the holes dug the night before.
This idea was better before security cameras were as ubiquitous as they are now.
If I had to get rid of a body now, you’re going in the swamp somewhereabouts Wewahitchka. No hikers will be turning someone up in there.
 
Having driven through Utah, Wyoming etc, there are much more remote, mostly uninhabited spots, compared to Grand Teton National Park, even if it's considered a distressed camping ground. Any national park attracts people, as nosy as they are. Then again, this guy is an ass clown and there's a huge gap in knowledge between an idiot killer who is a rage a holic versus a professional killer who does it with purpose as a job. I hope this clown is dead. He deserves nothing better. That girl was mentally gone but didn't deserve it. In a sense, I blame today's stupid social media websites for contributing to this repetitive lunacy.
 
You're funny. I've just been waiting for the facts. They are starting to trickle in. ;)
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I'm with finance85 and this guy! Yes..yes...yes I know, there's a high probability the bf did it I get it! but can we please be able to prove it before we fry him.
 
You're funny. I've just been waiting for the facts. They are starting to trickle in. ;)
Just let finance go at his own pace, by the end of the novel he will finally catch up to the rest of us 😉. There is an aspect sometimes there Is an odd twist, like the Papini case, however in most cases we have a pretty good idea what happened, however if facts change we change with it.
 
A trail camera picked up a guy walking by this morning that looked a lot like him and it appeared he was carrying the same type of backpack
yeah it’s a possibility. Have to wait and see. Heard now there is speculations she may have been pregnant, sonogram pictures were on the GoPro video close to the van.
 
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Did the connection to the double le$beans murder go out the window?

cause if this is gonna be made into a movie, a le$bean scene is always a pick me up.
 
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It might have been cheaper to put this dirtbag under 24/7 surveillance from the get-go. The local police chief said they didn't have the resources. Great, but what resources and $$ are being expended now? Save ten thousand and now spend hundreds of thousands. I think we have some serious incompetence here.
 
Have they announced who the forensic specialist is who was flown in to help with the autopsy?
 
It might have been cheaper to put this dirtbag under 24/7 surveillance from the get-go. The local police chief said they didn't have the resources. Great, but what resources and $$ are being expended now? Save ten thousand and now spend hundreds of thousands. I think we have some serious incompetence here.

As a defense attorney and tax paying citizen....I would have rather they tailed him legally for the last couple of weeks.

I'm sure more will come out that all of us might change our minds. Hell, even if I represented the D and he is honestly innocent, I'd still want them to tail my client for the simple reason that if he is not guilty, he won't do anything stupid.

That being said, the potential D did a lot of things that seem incriminating.

Depending on autopsy results, which could show an overdose, it still might not exonerate D for leaving her w/out support. I am guessing most people their ages with unfiltered and plenty of cash to go "out west", they were probably using a variety of substances.

That doesn't mean he didn't inject her intentionally with a lethal dosage of heroin.
 
What was the cause of death? That will play a big role here?

Too many edibles, not enough sleep.
 
It might have been cheaper to put this dirtbag under 24/7 surveillance from the get-go. The local police chief said they didn't have the resources. Great, but what resources and $$ are being expended now? Save ten thousand and now spend hundreds of thousands. I think we have some serious incompetence here.
You are talking about a local police department vs the federal government. If the feds had an interest or some common sense they would have done that.
 
Enhanced photos of the second camera on the Red White and Bethune bus. This captured a front view of the van. You can see what looks like the boyfriend with his face up behind the front passenger seat looking at the bus drive past.

See the post that starts with 174 Cray Cray



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A neighbor in North Port speaks about the potential defendant's demeanor from the time after he arrived home on Sept 1

 
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