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Did he kill her?

Question, how did he get back home if he abandoned the van in Utah?
He didn't, the van was at his parent's house.

I would be interested to see what kind of video they have been able to uncover on his trip back to Florida.
A report just came out there was a hard drive found in the van during the first search that they just got a new warrant to search
 
He didn't, the van was at his parent's house.

I would be interested to see what kind of video they have been able to uncover on his trip back to Florida.
A report just came out there was a hard drive found in the van during the first search that they just got a new warrant to search
Sorry I missed it... I am seeing videos of the van abandoned in Utah.
 
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Sorry I missed it... I am seeing videos of the van abandoned in Utah.

That is a video of the van, on what most believe is the day when she was likely killed, then disposed of not far from where the van was parked. Then the van was driven to his parent's house.
 
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And yes, the idea of leaving the relationship at the first sign of abuse is also great.

But..."hey, babe, let's have a baby" even though you've already said you don't want kids (yet or at all) doesn't seem abusive. But it can escalate and hey, there's a baby on the way (messing with birth control pills, stopping BC without notifying your partner, stealthing, poking holes in condoms...). Baby trapping is a good way to keep someone in your life, yes?

"Hey, you've worked so hard the last couple of years. Take some time off, maybe we'll try to start a family, I'll take care of you, you just take care of the house." Good way to get someone to be financially dependent on you...

"I don't really like your friends...let's hang out with my friends instead this week." And the isolation starts.
Wendy abusive, manipulating and controlling behaviors can occur whether it’s a girlfriend or a boyfriend. We should be teaching our kids what true loving relationships are about based on respect, understanding and compromise. Also that you have to have some fun along the way. When we see these types of behavior, which occurs even at young ages when need to tach our kids what to look for and these are not the type of people that we bring into their lives. We have to teach them as much of the tools and then always keep the communication lines open.
 
Sure. And that still won't guarantee your kids will never become victims. I hope they never are.
 
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Sure. And that still won't guarantee your kids will never become victims. I hope they never are.
Nope there is no such thing as bubble, we can’t protect them from everything.

There was a young man that was murdered in Kansas City last week. He went to a concert he was having fun with his friends and he was murdered in the street. From everything it sounds like he was a great guy, great demeanor etc. he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It sucks, it is also life. In most cases we can pull ourselves back up off the ground, assess our situation get the support we need, whether mentally emotionally or physically. Life is not easy, it is not a fairytale . . . At the same point it is not something to be feared. You take each day and you make the most of it, because as mentioned above you never know when it will be your last.
 
When I see the title to this thread I sing it to the melody of MC Hammer’s ‘Have You Seen Her.’

You can too if you want….
 
Anyone else following this story? Guy and his fiancé buy a camper van, set off to tour the country. Allegedly they make it to the Grand Tetons but not Yellowstone. He ultimately returns to FL, she’s nowhere to be seen. He lawyers up; has nothing to say.

This story is so heartbreaking.
 
Enhanced photo from the Baker, FL trail cam.

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I havn't been following this case closely but my understanding of it is basically.

1. Guy and his girlfriend took off on a vacation in a van.
2. Guy returns home without girlfriend. GF's parents call police
3. Security cam photo shows van at a place they traveled to.
4. GF's body is found nearby to where van was photographed
5. Guy disappears soon after GF's body is found.

You know it amazes me that people will plan out murdering someone but can't come up with a better plan to try and get away with it than "return home without her and hope her parents never ask where she is."

But than again I'm kind of glad he's an idiot. Makes justice easier.
 
I havn't been following this case closely but my understanding of it is basically.

1. Guy and his girlfriend took off on a vacation in a van.
2. Guy returns home without girlfriend. GF's parents call police
3. Security cam photo shows van at a place they traveled to.
4. GF's body is found nearby to where van was photographed
5. Guy disappears soon after GF's body is found.

You know it amazes me that people will plan out murdering someone but can't come up with a better plan to try and get away with it than "return home without her and hope her parents never ask where she is."

But than again I'm kind of glad he's an idiot. Makes justice easier.

He left before they found the body.
 
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