Did Mulvey Sleep With Fran's Mother?

[Fran-Con-2]

because I have no idea why he gets significantly less minutes than Dembele.

Ladji was 0-2 from the field yet inexplicably got 20 minutes tonight. Mulvey had one or two poor defensive plays, but he also pulled down two offensive boards in 8 minutes. Our team gets clobbered on the boards every night, yet the 7 ft. Mulvey barely plays.

I know he is super clumsy still. But is he worse than Dembele and Brauns? Really? Wtf am I missing?

 

[Fran-Con-2]

Mulvey was +6.

Dembele was -18.

Dembele played 20 minutes. What are we doing?

 

[IAHawkGrad2000]

After game one I wrote Dembele needs to sit and not play and everyone said I was wrong... sorry, he is not good, a liability on both ends

 

[hawksense]

What is Ladji doing in practice that warrants the PT, is prob the question that needs to be posed.

 

[hawksense]

Brauns doesn’t need floor time either.

 

[LukaDuka]

Time to shorten up the rotations. Tadjo, Pryce, Traroe & Thelwell could all start and should get significant minutes. No need for Payton and Dix to play 36+ minutes IMO.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

because I have no idea why he gets significantly less minutes than Dembele.

Ladji was 0-2 from the field yet inexplicably got 20 minutes tonight. Mulvey had one or two poor defensive plays, but he also pulled down two offensive boards in 8 minutes. Our team gets clobbered on the boards every night, yet the 7 ft. Mulvey barely plays.

I know he is super clumsy still. But is he worse than Dembele and Brauns? Really? Wtf am I missing?

The fact this is a discussion—since neither player is P5 material—demonstrates the fundamental flaw with Iowa basketball.

 

[cubsMDdmb]

The fact this is a discussion—since neither player is P5 material—demonstrates the fundamental flaw with Iowa basketball.

Wrong.

It shows we have injuries and have to play players who aren’t as good as the ones injured. There may be things wrong with Iowa basketball but your post is not accurate.

 

[Slim45]

because I have no idea why he gets significantly less minutes than Dembele.

Ladji was 0-2 from the field yet inexplicably got 20 minutes tonight. Mulvey had one or two poor defensive plays, but he also pulled down two offensive boards in 8 minutes. Our team gets clobbered on the boards every night, yet the 7 ft. Mulvey barely plays.

I know he is super clumsy still. But is he worse than Dembele and Brauns? Really? Wtf am I missing?

He’s awkward but pretty athletic for 7’. I seem to recall a video of him in hs doing 360 dunks, that takes some athleticism. He gets up and down the floor pretty well. I agree, no reason he shouldn’t be getting more playing time. But frans not a very good coach so it checks out

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Wrong.

It shows we have injuries and have to play players who aren’t as good as the ones injured. There may be things wrong with Iowa basketball but your post is not accurate.

How long has Mulvey been in the program?

Wasted scholarship.

What is the likelihood Dembele becomes a solid Big Ten player?

Not likely.

So, yes, recruiting is still the fundamental problem.

 

[Mohawkeye]

He rebounded and defended well against their 7 footers. I’ve no idea what Fran is doing, because I saw nothing but productive positive minutes.

 

[jonesy5960]

Mulvey was +6.

Dembele was -18.

Dembele played 20 minutes. What are we doing?

I knew these Dembele numbers without seeing these numbers. WTF is Fran seeing? He's as responsible for the loss as Iowa's shitty free throw shooting.

 

[cubsMDdmb]

How long has Mulvey been in the program?

Wasted scholarship.

What is the likelihood Dembele becomes a solid Big Ten player?

Not likely.

So, yes, recruiting is still the fundamental problem.

You’ve already convinced yourself we have a bad team. No one can say anything to make you think different. You should cheer for someone else.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

After game one I wrote Dembele needs to sit and not play and everyone said I was wrong... sorry, he is not good, a liability on both ends

We need more out of Ladji, as I have said before. But I thought he played more aggressively out there today and showed more fight. He doesn’t finish very well around the basket though and we need him to score in the lane.

 

[jonesy5960]

We need more out of Ladji, as I have said before. But I thought he played more aggressively out there today and showed more fight. He doesn’t finish very well around the basket though and we need him to score in the lane.

You can't be serious. He was terrible today. Again. He doesn't do anything well. Fran needs to stop playing him.

 

[GunnerHawk]

The fact this is a discussion—since neither player is P5 material—demonstrates the fundamental flaw with Iowa basketball.

This is all on Fran not getting another big to support Freeman in the portal. Totally agree that Brauns is a total waste of a schollie and Mulvey isn't much better. Iowa fans deserve better.

 

[Slim45]

You’ve already convinced yourself we have a bad team. No one can say anything to make you think different. You should cheer for someone else.

take note of the stands next home game. Fans are tired of fran. Would take 1 hell of a team to get any excitement back around the program with him at the helm. Frans good teams haven’t been good enough to make it past the first weekend, easy to see this isn’t one of his good teams sooo….

 

[cubsMDdmb]

take note of the stands next home game. Fans are tired of fran. Would take 1 hell of a team to get any excitement back around the program with him at the helm. Frans good teams haven’t been good enough to make it past the first weekend, easy to see this isn’t one of his good teams sooo….

That’s a completely different topic. But if you want to go down that road, that’s fine. Fran was given a dumpster fire of a basketball team. He’s brought it to respectability but you’re correct we haven’t made it past the 2nd round. If we do make it past the 2nd round will fans suddenly return? This trend was written on the wall before Fran took the reins of Iowa basketball. If we change coaches and start from scratch (which is what we’d be doing, I have no doubt most decent players would transfer) Will the fans return? Of course not. Fran gives us an exciting type of game to watch and I the fact that the players love him and want to play for him is almost enough. I’ll continue to watch and support and go to the games I can get to.

 

[kceasthawk]

Mulvey was +6.

Dembele was -18.

Dembele played 20 minutes. What are we doing?

I agree that Mulvey should be the back up center NOW. The problem is that Dembele usually plays the 4 and you can't really have Freeman and Mulvey in there together

 

[Slim45]

That’s a completely different topic. But if you want to go down that road, that’s fine. Fran was given a dumpster fire of a basketball team. He’s brought it to respectability but you’re correct we haven’t made it past the 2nd round. If we do make it past the 2nd round will fans suddenly return? This trend was written on the wall before Fran took the reins of Iowa basketball. If we change coaches and start from scratch (which is what we’d be doing, I have no doubt most decent players would transfer) Will the fans return? Of course not. Fran gives us an exciting type of game to watch and I the fact that the players love him and want to play for him is almost enough. I’ll continue to watch and support and go to the games I can get to.

You do you. You told the other poster he gave up on this team before seeing if they’re any good and to find another team to cheer for. He’s just like all the fans that don’t go to games anymore, so no it’s not a different topic. Starting from scratch is also a hilarious argument in the age of the transfer portal, never been easier to build a team. Hire the right coach and they likely bring some players with them. Hire the right coach and some guys on the team likely stay.

 

[markfromj]

I don’t get how, if he did, that would give him something on Fran.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Team that looked very deep a couple of weeks ago now seems pretty thin.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

You’ve already convinced yourself we have a bad team. No one can say anything to make you think different. You should cheer for someone else.

I watched about 15 minutes of the second half to pass the time before the SEC championship game. That is the only Iowa basketball I have watched this season. Furthermore, other than parroting curtisj for fun, I never claimed Iowa has a bad team. I think they have about the same team as they always do—basically mediocre. I have been pretty clear on that.

I don’t need to “cheer for someone else” because my self esteem doesn’t hinge on 20-year-old kids. College sports are essentially an entertainment business. “Student” athletes have an open market to make whatever amount of money they can—which for some means millions. Last time I checked, the head coach at Iowa is also still making millions.

The point? I am not entertained. If you are, wonderful. I, like many others, however, are not. This is a free message board, which means you will read a variety of opinions—some that you might not like. So, if you can’t get over your glib self, and since you seem to be in the business of offering “suggestions,” here’s mine: go find or create your own message board echo chamber of like-minded Fran fellatio fans who enjoy watching the same non-athletic/non-rebounding/non-defensive, pasty-white hoopers.

Until then, might I suggest you get over yourself, or use the ignore button.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

You do you. You told the other poster he gave up on this team before seeing if they’re any good and to find another team to cheer for. He’s just like all the fans that don’t go to games anymore, so no it’s not a different topic. Starting from scratch is also a hilarious argument in the age of the transfer portal, never been easier to build a team. Hire the right coach and they likely bring some players with them. Hire the right coach and some guys on the team likely stay.

You get it.

I am completely indifferent to Iowa basketball because it is boring and predictable. I don’t get mad; I don’t run to these boards after a loss to shout that everyone should be fired; I come here randomly when the OT board gets boring to voice my opinion that I miss Iowa basketball being enjoyable, win or lose, and to check the general mood of the fan base. Frankly, based upon what I read here, the lack of attendance at Carver is a pretty good indicator others think a lot like me.

Hopefully, in addition to @cubsMDdmb being a message board hero, he is demonstrating his undying devotion to Fran McCaffrey by regularly attending games at Carver.

 

[cubsMDdmb]

I watched about 15 minutes of the second half to pass the time before the SEC championship game. That is the only Iowa basketball I have watched this season. Furthermore, other than parroting curtisj for fun, I never claimed Iowa has a bad team. I think they have about the same team as they always do—basically mediocre. I have been pretty clear on that.

I don’t need to “cheer for someone else” because my self esteem doesn’t hinge on 20-year-old kids. College sports are essentially an entertainment business. “Student” athletes have an open market to make whatever amount of money they can—which for some means millions. Last time I checked, the head coach at Iowa is also still making millions.

The point? I am not entertained. If you are, wonderful. I, like many others, however, are not. This is a free message board, which means you will read a variety of opinions—some that you might not like. So, if you can’t get over your glib self, and since you seem to be in the business of offering “suggestions,” here’s mine: go find or create your own message board echo chamber of like-minded Fran fellatio fans who enjoy watching the same non-athletic/non-rebounding/non-defensive, pasty-white hoopers.

Until then, might I suggest you get over yourself, or use the ignore button.

So you’ve watched 15 minutes of a game this year yet you feel the need to post on the message board about them all the time? Sure seems like something g about your esteem hinges on those 20 year olds. You must be CurtisJ’s twin.

Completely agree that you’ll read different opinions on the message boards. That’s why most people come here. I’ve never put someone on ignore before and I probably never will. I didn’t say stop posting. I said go cheer for someone else which I guess you did show me I was wrong about since you don’t actually cheer for Iowa.

 

[icwesthawk]

I am completely indifferent to Iowa basketball because it is boring and predictable

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I miss Iowa basketball, yes.

I’m indifferent to Fran teams at this point. Why? Because I can’t change it.

But, yeah, I miss Iowa basketball.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

So you’ve watched 15 minutes of a game this year yet you feel the need to post on the message board about them all the time?

I don’t post about the individual games and don’t post all the time on the basketball board, but maybe your definition is different than mine.

Wanting to be entertained by a product I used to enjoy watching and banking my self esteem on that product is miles apart for me. But you keep throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick.

Again, get over yourself.

 

[jonesy5960]

I agree that Mulvey should be the back up center NOW. The problem is that Dembele usually plays the 4 and you can't really have Freeman and Mulvey in there together

This is true, but Fran has the option of going to a three guard lineup with Thelwell that gets your best players on the floor and is much more effective overall. His love affair with Dembele and Brauns is beyond frustrating at this point.

 

[iowamike21]

because I have no idea why he gets significantly less minutes than Dembele.

Ladji was 0-2 from the field yet inexplicably got 20 minutes tonight. Mulvey had one or two poor defensive plays, but he also pulled down two offensive boards in 8 minutes. Our team gets clobbered on the boards every night, yet the 7 ft. Mulvey barely plays.

I know he is super clumsy still. But is he worse than Dembele and Brauns? Really? Wtf am I missing?

I said before the Michigan game--you could look it up--that Mulvey would be a key to the game IF Fran would play him. And that's pretty much what happened. Fran did play him in the first half, and Mulvey's defense and presence on the boards, along with Thelwell's play, got Iowa back into the game after they started out trailing 20-4. So in the second half, Mulvey and Thelwell hardly played while Dembele continued to take up space and accomplish exactly nothing.

I have no idea what the deal is with Dembele. Why does he start!? Why does he get so many minutes? He's a liability in every facet of the game. I thought he showed potential last year, but the results this year have been horrible. Give those minutes to someone who has a chance to impact the game . . . Mulvey and Thelwell, for example, depending on matchups.

 

[kceasthawk]

This is true, but Fran has the option of going to a three guard lineup with Thelwell that gets your best players on the floor and is much more effective overall. His love affair with Dembele and Brauns is beyond frustrating at this point.

Against some teams yes. Teams like Michigan put is a such a disadvantage inside. The issue with the three guard lineup, (lets say we start Brock, Thelwell, and Dix) is we have no bench depth, which we've talked about for years now. That also moves either of the Sandforts to the 4 spot. Okay on offense for the most part but death on defense. To me Traore basically slots into that same 3 spot thats the best position for the Sandforts.

 

[kceasthawk]

I said before the Michigan game--you could look it up--that Mulvey would be a key to the game IF Fran would play him. And that's pretty much what happened. Fran did play him in the first half, and Mulvey's defense and presence on the boards, along with Thelwell's play, got Iowa back into the game after they started out trailing 20-4. So in the second half, Mulvey and Thelwell hardly played while Dembele continued to take up space and accomplish exactly nothing.

I have no idea what the deal is with Dembele. Why does he start!? Why does he get so many minutes? He's a liability in every facet of the game. I thought he showed potential last year, but the results this year have been horrible. Give those minutes to someone who has a chance to impact the game . . . Mulvey and Thelwell, for example, depending on matchups.

All true BUT the roster overall is the issue. You just can't play Mulvey and Freeman together. It would be great to have a healthy Koch, and see if he could play his way into that role. Not sure I'd count on him at all this year now. Tadjo has the body and played a couple of decent minutes, but he's SO raw. Basically our frontcourt is Freeman and 3 projects at this point....

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Against some teams yes. Teams like Michigan put is a such a disadvantage inside. The issue with the three guard lineup, (lets say we start Brock, Thelwell, and Dix) is we have no bench depth, which we've talked about for years now. That also moves either of the Sandforts to the 4 spot. Okay on offense for the most part but death on defense. To me Traore basically slots into that same 3 spot thats the best position for the Sandforts.

That's one of the major issues with Fran and his rotations. He doesn't seem to see that it might be an advantage to use different lineups against different opponents depending on THEIR lineups.
I think Mulvey is a marginal player in comparison to the talent level at his position in the B1G. But the situation against michigan with their 2 big slow footed inside players was the perfect situation to use him.
Against a lot of other teams that are smaller and quicker he should rarely see the floor. Then you go with guard heavy lineups. Maybe even <gasp> play Thelwell and Harding at the same time.

 

[RocknRollface]

That’s a completely different topic. But if you want to go down that road, that’s fine. Fran was given a dumpster fire of a basketball team. He’s brought it to respectability but you’re correct we haven’t made it past the 2nd round. If we do make it past the 2nd round will fans suddenly return? This trend was written on the wall before Fran took the reins of Iowa basketball. If we change coaches and start from scratch (which is what we’d be doing, I have no doubt most decent players would transfer) Will the fans return? Of course not. Fran gives us an exciting type of game to watch and I the fact that the players love him and want to play for him is almost enough. I’ll continue to watch and support and go to the games I can get to.

Fan interest is considerably down compared to where it was earlier in Frans tenure.

To act like it's been static since Lickliter/Alford is not true.

It went steadily up, and then after 2 flops in the tournament with legitimate superstar players it bottomed out because people aren't going to invest emotionally in this coach anymore.

The opposite thing happened with the women.

Odds are pretty high that no matter what happens now Fran isn't going to be around much longer so we'll get to see what happens soon.

With the portal, sarting from scratch isn't a negative anymore it's a positive. The best teams are mostly built on transfers now and your best opportunity to get the most transfers is year one and two.

Approaching coaching changes from a perspective of fear is silly.

 

[twindman]

Not to knock Brauns - he trys, but I think Fran couldn't find another PF or C to transfer, so just rewarded Brauns hard work with our remaining scholarship this year.

 

[kceasthawk]

That's one of the major issues with Fran and his rotations. He doesn't seem to see that it might be an advantage to use different lineups against different opponents depending on THEIR lineups.
I think Mulvey is a marginal player in comparison to the talent level at his position in the B1G. But the situation against michigan with their 2 big slow footed inside players was the perfect situation to use him.
Against a lot of other teams that are smaller and quicker he should rarely see the floor. Then you go with guard heavy lineups. Maybe even <gasp> play Thelwell and Harding at the same time.

Agree except I wouldn't call the 7'1 guy Wolf slow footed. That dude has skills, and he'll be in the league next season...

 

[kceasthawk]

Not to knock Brauns - he trys, but I think Fran couldn't find another PF or C to transfer, so just rewarded Brauns hard work with our remaining scholarship this year.

I think he brought Brauns in last year because he and Pmac were high school buddies, and I doubt he expected Pat to leave at that time. I think Brauns played a lot at Belmont, but its obvious this level of play is a bit above his skill level....

 

[cidhawkeye]

Against some teams yes. Teams like Michigan put is a such a disadvantage inside. The issue with the three guard lineup, (lets say we start Brock, Thelwell, and Dix) is we have no bench depth, which we've talked about for years now. That also moves either of the Sandforts to the 4 spot. Okay on offense for the most part but death on defense. To me Traore basically slots into that same 3 spot thats the best position for the Sandforts.

.’ That also moves either of the Sandforts to the 4 spot. Okay on offense for the most part but death on defense.’

Peyton is death on defense no matter where he plays. Thankfully he hit some shots late because the rest of the game.

FYI
indifferent
adjective

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/ɪnˈdɪf.ər.ənt/ US

/ɪnˈdɪf.ɚ.ənt/

indifferent adjective (NOT INTERESTED)
not thinking about or interestedin someone or something:

To help with some other posters. May want to select a different adjective because I don’t think it means what you think it means. The presence on the board and posting is the proof. Are you also the ‘could care less’ type of person?​

 

[jonesy5960]

Against some teams yes. Teams like Michigan put is a such a disadvantage inside. The issue with the three guard lineup, (lets say we start Brock, Thelwell, and Dix) is we have no bench depth, which we've talked about for years now. That also moves either of the Sandforts to the 4 spot. Okay on offense for the most part but death on defense. To me Traore basically slots into that same 3 spot thats the best position for the Sandforts.

Size is always an issue with Iowa, but the 3 guard lineup with Mulvey was the most efficient and effective lineup against Michigan yesterday. Dembele is not a good defender and the Hawks were getting crushed so you can't argue that he's out there for interior defense. The guy moves like he's stuck in the mud.

 

[DewHawk]

That's one of the major issues with Fran and his rotations. He doesn't seem to see that it might be an advantage to use different lineups against different opponents depending on THEIR lineups.
I think Mulvey is a marginal player in comparison to the talent level at his position in the B1G. But the situation against michigan with their 2 big slow footed inside players was the perfect situation to use him.
Against a lot of other teams that are smaller and quicker he should rarely see the floor. Then you go with guard heavy lineups. Maybe even <gasp> play Thelwell and Harding at the same time.

McCaffery=Ferentz