Do you support food stamps?
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my daughters first job was Kohl’s, and it was barely above state min wage.
She got another job at 13/hr
Used that to get a job at 17/hr
She’s 17.
Is there some “abuse”? Yes. Is it rampant to do away with it all? No.
I’d say it’s a messaging/image issue. Put some people in place to regulate, imo.
I’d say they could expand who receives benefits if they adjust the poverty level, but decrease abuse and serve more of those actually in need.
Why don't we create a system where specific food groups are dropped off at the recipients home rather than EBT cards etc.
So you think unlimited Cokes and Candy and potato chips are fine?
Then these folks develop diabetes or other health issues and we the taxpayers pick up the Medicaid tab for treatment?
I 100% support food stamps and WIC programs but there are certain food manufacturers who pay lobbyists millions of dollars so that their unhealthy products can be bought with our help by those who legitimately need that help.
This is (IMO) why we as a country need to have a serious conversation about the current state of the American diet. No one in this country should go hungry but no one should be filling up with empty calories either.
My only comment in this thread is that we currently allow a company to continue to employ its employees while encouraging them all to seek assistance because that company knows they don’t pay a wage to live.
That company relies on government assistance for its employees.
While. Making. Billions.
That company relies on government assistance for its employees.
While. Making. Billions.
Trad, the vast majority of people getting food stamps are working single moms, disabled, and elderly, and you want to strip them of what little dignity they have left because someone, somewhere might be gaming the system. Is you life that pathetic? Are you really doing that poorly?
Our whole farm subsidies come from the same program, If you saw what I see with the farmers and corporate farmers and the amount of handouts they receive and how they live it would make you cry. You are right, you should be mad as hell, you are just mad at the wrong people and the wrong program.
They used cash in that story for those items. You don't know where that cash was obtained or how. By your logic using EBT at all means that anything else purchased in life is considered "our money." We could really have fun picking out frivolous things wealthy people buy that also receive government money in the corporate welfare system. By your logic I could say "not with our money" to Elon buying ketamine.
Being in the north florida/south georgia area, I hear the more extreme narratives on this subject frequently. Just a bunch of good for nothings waiting for their handouts, enjoying their government purchased 85" TVs and lobster/caviar they purchased on EBT. Living large while the goodly conservative folk toil away to pay for poor people to live extravagantly. This is consistent with the steady messaging they receive from their favorite news sources and politicians.
It doesn't matter. They used an EBT card to buy food and then immediately bought cigarillos and lottery tickets with cash. They don't need a tax payer provided EBT card if they already have money for smokes and lottery tickets.
My point stands. You have no idea where that money came from or the frequency of these transactions. It could be that her mom gave her $17 dollars for her birthday. Is it your belief that if they come into any cash at any point while on EBT it needs to only be spent on things that fall under the allowed purchases of EBT in store?
I worked as a cashier for many years. The dichotomy between good food stamp shoppers stretching a dollar vs those buying candy and shit couldn't be greater.
The guidelines for food stamps should be more like WIC. Back in the day you could buy a dum dum sucker for .05. People would go through check out 2x to get .95 back each time to buy smokes. I honestly could give a F, if those people ever got food stamps again.
spend some time at the grocery store, you will quickly find those are not one offs....
You are. You were presented with a real event with cigarillos and lottery tickets and to that you responded:
I also was a grocery cashier for many moons. Watching what people buy with their EBT was amazing
At the end of the day it comes down to the cost of compliance and its respective use of a limited resource in smoking out abuse of the system. Would that result in more support for folks who actually need it and programmatic efficiency or just take more away from those in need? No one I know really supports abuse of the support programs that are in place.
or not have internet access, be phoneless, have to pay for drugs, etc, etc
Really makes you wonder how often he deliberately misses the point.
You also had a job because of EBT/WIC. In Minnesota, you can only buy EBT approved items, and candy isn't one of them. Dipshits like Sullivan cannot seem to see the big picture here. He likely wouldn't have his job as a rectum plucker at the chicken processing facility if it weren't for economic boosting programs like EBT.
In a lot of states you can buy candy with EBT under SNAP, but I'm not sure about WIC.
A bigger question, is why, in this supposedly Christian nation of ours, are they needed?
Not in Minnesota, pastry items, yes. You can see "ebt approved" when shopping online.
All largely fiction but many are convinced that nearly everyone receiving benefits are gaming the system, always.
The simple minded tend to readily believe unsubstantiated rumors like that. Some of you should go look up the PPP loan forgiveness rate. A lot of outspoken farmers took their $21k PPP "loan" handout, some even twice. The same goes for a ton of local businesses. I know a nursing home administrator who took out a $185k PPP loan and then closed up the business shortly after that. The loan was forgiven.
Yep, food isn't produced to feed people - it's produced to make a profit. When it's not profitable to feed people, we let them starve. Even when our labor has conquered scarcity, capitalism must manufacture it in order to justify its' existence. Absolutely disgusting.
LOL, WTF are regular folk? If you're white, straight, skinny, etc you can be on food stamps?
How many of the 770k are illegals. Following your logic, illegals make up well over 50% of that 770k number. Do you know that information or should we just believe your dumbass opinion on merit? You haven't been real logical since early November
You mean you haven't seen all the illegals buying up all the newly constructed homes (after they build them of course)? I dont have any proof, but it's happening EVERYWHERE
maybe you should do some checking. There aren't many food items that can't be purchased.
Jokes on you dude. In reality, you are full of it. But then again, you know that.
so...this lady asked you for help, and then you basically didn't help her, and then you followed her home laughing at her?
what point were you trying to make with this story?
"But we also shouldn't be expected to carry people who can, but choose not to, take care of themselves."
-Jesus of Nazareth
It’s good to see @The Tradition say no. Given that his job is completely dependent on taxpayer money. I guess without food equity, he can get patients in quicker to build up the manor er trailer quicker.
