Apparently not the same one that you watched, but let's hear it!
Does Lester have any balls?
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Apparently not the same one that you watched, but let's hear it!
we been figuring this out on this board for 25 years now. including BF and greg davis and everyone else. the OC is not KF. but KF is the OC. make sense?
I really like Gill. I know Seth was hurt last game, but I have my doubts he would see much action for other BT programs. Not that he is horrible, but I just think we need to raise the WR bar some - having said that, I hope he makes me eat crow..🐦⬛
I've seen you around here for the whole 25 years. Yes and no on your observation. Lester is the OC as far as developing the offense. When it comes to game time Kirk manages the flow. He sets the parameters and ultimately wants to lean on the defense. After a season of this I wonder if Lester will have second thoughts about coming here.
You are correct that it's Lester's offense. Each offense has been distinctly unique to the OC.
Come game day, Kirk can trump any call, or may say the ball needs to be run on a certain series, for example. But I think that happens far less than people make it out to be. Essentially, it's the OC's baby.
For example, Iowa tried to get cute on goal to go inside the 5 and had to settle for a field goal. If KF was interjecting as much as people claim, there's no way Iowa would have gotten even more cute the next time they were inside the opponent's 5. But they did. And it led to another FG.
Another example is in many seasons I've seen the OC's attempting to be too cute. Then usually come late October/November, Iowa will come out in a game with a distinctly heavier commitment to the run. This has happened in many seasons, where rather than the change coming in game, it comes the following game. It has frustrated me many times, as usually KF doesn't slap the OC into shape until it has already cost them a game.
Kirk certainly isn't calling the plays. You can tell that by watching him on the sidelines
Ever have an independent thought not involving Donald Trump?
It doesn't matter who the OC is until Kirk is gone.
TL is going to see Troy (the team he was set to go to) on Saturday and be like "damn, they are playing an open style offense". Maybe I should have...
Maybe this was all understood on day one. Maybe the only reason he's doing it is for the mortgage.
The entire Free World, Eastern Bloc, and the Third World were acutely aware that Capt Kirk was going to hire a Yes Man for Junior's replacement.
(Cold War flashback)
(Cold War flashback)
i did not see many open either......just hard to believe with us running for 200 plus yds and iowa st selling out to stop the run. we should have guys running wide open everywhere. just a lack of talent?
Well I'm not as high on the concept of passing in football as everyone else, so to me, no, there shouldn't be guys wide open everywhere. Passes are high degree of difficulty plays and there are capable defenses out there trained to stop them.
But no, other than Brown, Iowa wouldn't be considered all that talented at receiver.
Also, the refs were allowing ISU a decent amount of contact in their man coverage.
Also, the offense is still learning a new system. There are inevitable growing pains that come with coaching changes.
Lastly, although Iowa had some big runs, they never committed to pounding on the D with the run in the first half. This allowed the ISU D to be more fresh to get pressure and disrupt some timing.
Establish the run, and then I can see where a guy should be wide open here and there
You guys honestly haven't heard of these mechanics being taught?
Not surprising.
Maybe you guys should occasionally educate yourselves about the game rather than incessantly and passionately imposing your uninformed opinions
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I have seen NO evidence of KF making play calls. What are others on this thread seeing to think that he does?
The no look jump pass that got picked certainly wasn't his call, and the goal line razzle dazzle throws that did nothing were certainly not his.
Despite what people say, I think Lester called a good game, especially in the first half. The 2nd half, he just stuck with what worked. Because Cade couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. The only issue I had was his redbone calls. They were just bad.
There was one play that had, I think Brown, wide open, but Cade was sacked. Lester can't do much with an OLine and QB like this.
There was one play that had, I think Brown, wide open, but Cade was sacked. Lester can't do much with an OLine and QB like this.
How you didn't get OC job is beyond me. I think it was actually on sports center.
Does Lester want to keep his job? Does he not listen Kirk and get fired or does he not make progress to keep the AD happy and get fired? I don't know.
I hope that at the bare minimum Beth tells Kirk that the 2nd half performance against ISU was unacceptable.
Perplexing isn't it? How a self-proclaimed genius for all phases of football continues to remain unemployed in the sport and opts to linger around here with us instead is quite the mystery.
I would agree, we drove it down the field multiple times, but getting cute in the redzone is not our style, nor should it be. I think Lester won't make that mistake again.I read Redbone and immediately saw this.
Yes, you did address it, but IMHO those were the most critical drives of the game so that undermines his first half play calling quite a bit.
ISU didn't have to protect deep. They realized that Cade can't throw it down field.
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Lester is making the calls. Maybe they were bad calls or good calls that were poorly executed. IDK.
Both the offense and the defense played poorly in the second half and the Hawks lost. ISU made plays to win.
The problems on offense don't get fixed in 2 games. Let's just hope it gets better by the time the B1G starts.
Both the offense and the defense played poorly in the second half and the Hawks lost. ISU made plays to win.
The problems on offense don't get fixed in 2 games. Let's just hope it gets better by the time the B1G starts.
and the Iowa won't throw down field. We do the defenses job for them when we don't attempt to stretch the field.
I hate to be this way, but from the 2nd quarter on last Saturday I had my eyes opened. It’s crystal clear to me that the problem with our offense is KF.
It’s time for the captain to hang it up. I can deal with losing, but what I get sick of is watching the hawks shut it down and just try to hang on for dear life. After the pick we were not even looking to pass the ball until it was 3rd and long.
It’s a game, it’s supposed to be a little fun. Sometimes I think the captain thinks they are splitting atoms. Sling the ball around a bit, have some fun.
It’s time for the captain to hang it up. I can deal with losing, but what I get sick of is watching the hawks shut it down and just try to hang on for dear life. After the pick we were not even looking to pass the ball until it was 3rd and long.
It’s a game, it’s supposed to be a little fun. Sometimes I think the captain thinks they are splitting atoms. Sling the ball around a bit, have some fun.
As far as the offense is concerned, yes., there were some questionable calls . We call them “questionable “ because they turned out poorly. If they had worked, everyone would have said, “Wow, Lester called a heck of a game.” If, in fact, he’s making the calls. The reality is our offense has been totally broken the last 2-3 years…totally. Pretty sad when the MVP is your punter. It’s not going to be fixed in one year. I think the offense has immensely improved. If you really want to nitpick the Clones game, go back and review their final possession vs. our elite defense. It was ridiculous how easily they got into fg range.
There's an entire 2 minute highlight clip on youtube from the game on Saturday of only Cade. Obviously it only includes passes completed. The first two were falling away. I get your convictions but don't make shit up.
That's already been covered in this thread. Many coaches are teaching those mechanics these days
Iowa attempted to throw to Lachey down field and it was picked. Underthrew Brown on a down field attempt. And got sacked when a play-action home run was dialed up on the 2nd to last drive
Cool. So say that initially instead. No one can read your intent on a message board. Also I think his mechanics are not great regardless of the throw. He is relying on his arm too much. Get the base involved (in a positive way) and the late/high throws won't be there.
