Duggan to ISU
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In his article about going to IC West it sounded like he wanted to be a hawk. I think the Cassioppi commitment happened about the same time frame. Unfortunately a weight with no flexibility. He has a good frame, 6'3". Is athletic. He took Chase Singletary to OT in a tourney last season.
He's listed at 141 on the roster. Hopefully the cream will rise to the top with Turk, Happel, Duggan, and Murin all at 141 for now. (Would be ecstatic if Murin or Happel could make 133 in 2019 & 2020, but for now it looks like Stickley/Glynn).
"And the cream will rise to the top." If you have never seen this clip force yourself to watch. It might make you smile. "Oh yeah."
One of Harrington/Gremmel will never finish @ ISU, imo.
The kid moved clear to Iowa from PA... he wanted to be a Hawkeye. Brands kinda pulled a "Cael" on this one and decided to bring in someone better...
Why would it be called a "Cael", Brands has been doing a lot more over-recruiting then he ever did. Take a look at how many 141s you guys have in the room, how about what happened to Renteria, Meja or Costello? In this case, the guy was committed enough that he actually moved to Iowa yet was still over-recruited.
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Lol how cute. FT thinks Lumbee is an Iowa fan.
Point stands no matter what school he is a fan of. Brands has taken over-recruiting to another level and has done it more then any other Division I coach over the past couple years. Therefore our ISU poster should be calling it a "Brands"
He's a PSU troll like you, genius. You would think coming from a University that preaches so much f*** you'd be able to pick up on a little sarcasm from one of your own. This is classic.
Really weak trolling idiot. His parents choice of residence has nothing to do with who Iowa is recruiting.
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Neither mejia or renteria accepted an offer to wrestle at Iowa, you can't over recruit people who were never on your team. Lol at trolling about over recruiting walk on and borderline walk on recruits, not quite the same as dipping into the slush fund to pay off multiple full ride and near full ride level guys.
Hold on here, I thought Cael screwed over Thomas Haines?? Isn't that where all this over-recruiting talk started? Are you now saying that Cael didn't do anything wrong, because if so, you are going to be hard pressed to find any examples of him over-recruiting anyone?
just because sophomores say the commit, doesn't mean they actually had an offer.
But still the whole "thou shall not over-recruit" is stupid, no matter who does it.
But still the whole "thou shall not over-recruit" is stupid, no matter who does it.
Agreed. Besides, Mejia hasn't even been able to gain admission to a D1 school.
You need to stay up on Jtownsteels plethora of screen names.
So...who has Brands "recruited" over?
If you're a D1 coach and aren't over-recruiting guys, you're missing the point. You get what you earn.
It's one thing to recruit guys and tell them up front that they are going to compete for a spot. Normally, these types of guys understand that...otherwise, they would have gone to Podunk U. Also, most of these are not full schollie guys. PSU is bringing in top ten guys and are going to be two deep in some spots.
The rumor is that Brands specifically will not give a wrestler a "plan." Basically a verbal commitment to him that he will start at such and such weight. I think this is one of the reasons why Teske didn't go with Iowa which probably means he did get a "plan" from Cael.
Sounds more like a guarantee than a plan. Who, with any integrity, could guarantee a young man a spot on the starting roster with multiple equitable wrestlers at the same weight?
I hear Carr is Iowa State or Cornell on the Ohio State boards. Announcing tomorrow. I don't have any inside information, I had thought he was going to be a Buckeye for quite awhile, but apparently not. Tomorrow morning he is announcing live on Flo. That would be a huge pickup for ISU and along with Duggan would relieve the sting of losing Teske a little bit.
Sounds like Carr committed to ISU this morning. We'll see shortly I suppose.
Also of note: Aaron Cashman took an official visit to ISU this past weekend. Seems they moved on from Teske fairly quickly..
A plan is an honest assessment of where the coaches see the kid in the lineup.
"I see you coming in at 125, taking a redshirt, bulking up, and being a 4-time champ at 133."
Nothing sleazy or dishonest or over-promising about it.
Gable did it. There's a story about why Tim Krieger chose Iowa State over Iowa back in the early '80s. Gable told him, "I see you sitting for a year behind (Jim) Heffernan, then being a 3-time champ." Krieger didn't like that plan.
If I'm a recruit, not articulating a plan to me sounds like you're not fully committed to my success, like you don't care enough about whether I commit to even think about where I fit into your lineup. If I'm a blue-chip recruit, I can guarantee you that the coach down the road is giving me a plan.
Sure...sounds great in theory. Most of the time, you can do that with the very elite like a Spencer Lee. How do you give a plan to Renteria or Mejia when Lee and Teasdale come on board? Not knowing who will grow or not, you are just dealing in hypotheticals. “JRent, I see you being my 133 and Teasdale my 141.”All just words really. PSU can play musical chairs at 125, 133, 141 but if team championship is at stake, the best guy is going to go regardless of “the plan.”
The "plan" goes out the door as soon as the recruit is on the roster, everyone knows that. But laying out a "plan" for a recruit's future that correlates to the vision that recruit has for themself is critical when vying for a recruit that is being sought after by many of the top programs.
Tell a recruit "the lineup will shake itself out and the best guy will have the spots," isn't the best option most of the time. I believe that is the point here.
I don’t think you are necessarily saying this but too many of today’s college coaches are all about themeselves and all about winning at any cost. If it’s a light gray area, heck even a dark gray area, or darker it gets done if that is what it takes. Tell a recruit everything he wants to hear, true or not, just to get him. Tell him he can not explore other opportunities. Doesn’t matter if he never plays or wrestles, after all it’s all about the coach, his job, and winning. For some anyway. It is possible to win and still treat each athlete fairly and with respect.
