You just defeated yourself. I will guarantee this, if a rapist or pedophile or murderer is locked up, they won't be harming innocent people. Actions have consequences has always been a deterent. Currently, the experiment is taking place in many US cities where lesser crimes are not being punished. The result is massive increase in crime - SF, LA, Minneapolis, NYC have all tried or are trying this. Disaster.
If you don’t post it does it mean it never happened?
Filling in the blank -- make them directly and tangibly experience (to truly understand) the effect of their crime (i.e., an attempt to build empathy in a psychopath who has none).
I think what we can conclude is that incarceration isn't as good of a deterrent as being caned or whipped or having a hand chopped off. It seems like physical and immediate punishment is an effective deterrent.
where was this in my 20’s 30’s and 40’s ???
Wasn't it social scientist that recommended the current system we have for dealing with crime? You know - do some research, come up with a theory, and then figure out why it isn't working.
it should be…..
"if only our government could inflict more violence on - and even permanently maim - our citizens more often...then everything would be better!"
He said he studied this in school, that's saying enough to establish where he's at. If he said after 20 years as a beat cop and detective I might pay attention to him.
speaking of punching in the nose…..
You trying to get El Dub to go ahead and jump?
Yep. My buddy, Brad B moved into the neighborhood just before kindergarten. We met for the first time when I was riding a bike with training wheels around block one way and he was riding his trike the other. It was a standoff until he took off a loafer and chucked it at me. That was a new tactic for me… lol
Ahh I remember the words of Mark Twain. There are 3 kinds of lies.
That is always the trick. How do you give incompetent power hungry people more power and the ability to use their power correctly? Putting the plan into action is the problem. I have to say that incarceration does not seem to be the most effective plan.
Your chart doesn't say anything about murder. Several sites I looked at just now says crime is rising especially murder. I can post some if you like.
Agree 100%. I became a lot better person thanks to few people that "straightened" me out when I was young.
I'm sure no one knows for sure but I have heard two theories on why violent crime hit a peak in the 90's then fell.
That chart was 2020 to 2021. There’s a lag in official stats, they actually only go up to 2021. So it’s possible it’s back up again.
Again, only goes to 2020 so won’t show recent numbers b/c while prob close to accurate, they’re not official. But unofficially, 2020 was up, 2021 was up further, then 2022 went down.
The generation of free love supplanted by the generation of AIDS
If you read Freakonomics, a strong argument is made that the decrease in violent crime was primarily driven by the effects of Roe V Wade and legalized abortion (1973-so a decrease in young men at age where many of the crimes happened)…and not so much policy/laws.
I don't have a very big library, but this is actually in my library. LOL
That’s spot on, imo. Check out the evolution of wage growth in comparison to costs of goods and services.
Huh? Folks are still liable to be killed for less by police all over US.
Apparently I didn't make it clear enough. I am only looking at the issue from an academic research perspective, and trying not to interject my personal feelings, although I did state that "I am in no way arguing for little or no consequences for crime." (did you notice that statement?).
As I see it, any increase in crime is not so much a nefarious plan by liberals, but rather is symptomatic of the significant moral decline of U.S. society during the last 20+ years. The moral free-fall is happening very quickly and is having a lot of negative effects on the people and culture of the U.S. Such is my opinion.
