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Explosion Near Trump Tower in Las Vegas

How stupid are people that buy/rent cell phones, ring cameras, Alexa, or pretty much any sort of technology today.
You can’t seriously believe everyone today isn’t being watched or listened to in some sort of way.
I'm pretty dumb in that regard, but at least I'm self aware.
 
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How stupid are people who buy/rent a vehicle where the manufacturer is recording video of people in the vehicle. I can’t believe people are ok with it.

You are recorded everywhere you got…not much difference. Hell just this truck they used equipment that is always on, always checking everyone out, to follow his movements around Vegas before hand.
 
That map make you wonder if had real intention to coming to Vegas … granted yet is one of the only two routes, but not the best coming from Denver
It is if you need charging stations. Probably not many available over I-70 through the mountains.
 
You are recorded everywhere you got…not much difference. Hell just this truck they used equipment that is always on, always checking everyone out, to follow his movements around Vegas before hand.

That doesn't justify an automaker recording everything inside a truck and then possibly using it against you. You're a fool it to own a vehicle like that.
 
The active-duty U.S. soldier found dead in a Tesla Cybertruck that exploded outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas once confided in an ex-girlfriend that he had suffered a traumatic brain injury while deployed overseas, she told The Washington Post.

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Alicia Arritt, a 39-year-old nurse who has cared for wounded military veterans, dated Matthew Livelsberger on-and-off from 2018 to 2021.

During that time, she said, Livelsberger — who was on approved leave from his Special Forces unit in Germany at the time of his death — told her that he’d struggled with a cloudy memory, poor concentration, difficulty maintaining relationships and intense guilt over his actions in combat.

Arritt recognized those symptoms as consistent with what can follow a blow to the head or massive jolt to the body. Such injuries, she knew, could fuel a gradual, heartbreaking deterioration of someone’s mental state. Several of her veteran friends and former patients, she said, have committed suicide.

“He wanted to get more help,” she recalled of their conversations. “I think it was even harder for him, being on active duty — the shame and the stigma.”

Livelsberger’s injury may help illuminate how the decorated 37-year-old Green Beret ended up dead in a Tesla Cybertruck that authorities say exploded after he fired a gun into his head while parked in front of Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas. The explosion came hours after an Army veteran from Texas drove a truck with an Islamic State flag into a crowd of New Year’s revelers in New Orleans, killing 14 people. The two incidents sparked alarm and fears of an orchestrated attack, but investigators said they have not found anything to suggest a connection.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department said late Thursday that Livelsberger’s death has been classified as a suicide.

After meeting on Tinder in 2018, Arritt said she and Livelsberger began texting about his life in the military. Arritt had tended to veterans with brain injuries at Walter Reed and provided The Post with documentation of her employment there.
“Get hurt at all?” Arritt asked, according to the exchange she shared.
“Just some concussions,” he replied.
Later, she said, he revealed to her the long-term consequences. The restless nights. The trouble focusing. The frustration.
Mounting evidence shows that repeated blast exposure throughout military service can damage the brain’s neural pathways, experts say. In severe cases, personalities are transformed. Struggles intensify. Lengthier combat stints elevate the threat of what the Pentagon calls “one of the invisible wounds of war.”

Livelsberger’s 18-year career, including numerous deployments to Afghanistan, put him at risk of prolonged exposure. He was awarded a Bronze Star with valor and an Army Commendation Medal with valor, the Army said — both of which honor courageous acts on the battlefield. His five Army Good Conduct medals indicate long periods of service free of disciplinary action.

Federal and local law enforcement officials declined to comment Friday on Arritt’s account of Livelsberger’s injuries and to what extent it may be a factor in their ongoing investigation of the explosion.
While they were dating, Arritt said, Livelsberger had also undergone back surgery to address pain he’d been experiencing after jumping out of planes. Livelsberger was qualified in freefall jumping, the Army said, an advance parachuting skill common among special operators.

Arritt was shocked, she said, when FBI agents appeared at her door Thursday, inquiring about Livelsberger’s motive. The charred Cybertruck had contained what was left of his passport, military ID, credit cards and cellphone, which showed she’d been among the last people whom he’d texted.
“I rented a Tesla Cybertruck. It’s the s***,” he’d typed to her at 9 a.m. on Sunday before sharing photos of the vehicle.

They’d kept in touch lightly over the years. Livelsberger had gotten married. Arritt said she was focused on raising her 15-year-old son in Pueblo, Colorado.
But she saw him as the “one who got away,” she said, and cared for him from what she envisioned as a respectful distance.

They’d bonded, she thought, because she’d been an Army nurse who could understand his pain. Livelsberger had told her that he’d grown up with a loving family and close friends. After the brain injury, though, he said he’d grown more isolated.

She wasn’t sure how the injury happened, she said — just that he’d gotten the diagnosis at some point before they met in 2018.
“He tried to put on a strong face,” she said. “Macho stuff.”
Arritt told the FBI agents that Livelsberger had suffered a brain injury, she said. She could think of no motive for why he would drive up to a Trump hotel with a vehicle full of fireworks and gas canisters. Before learning that he’d shot himself inside the Cybertruck, Arritt’s first thought was: The Tesla must have randomly burst into flames.

The exes had also connected over a love of Teslas. She’d purchased a Model S from an auction, she said, and that car caught fire last year while charging.

The man she’d known hadn’t seemed like any sort of extremist, she said. Arritt described Livelsberger as “politically moderate" — though he leaned more conservative — “incredibly intelligent” and “never mean.” They’d broken up, she said, because he didn’t want to be a stepfather to her son, and because she didn’t want to be moving around to accommodate his career.
“He was clear about what he wanted,” she said, “and was respectful about that.”
Livelsberger had been proud to serve his country, she said. He’d sent her photos of himself in camouflage fatigues, posing next to five long guns, according to images she shared with The Post. Another snapshot captured him grinning next to a muddy off-road vehicle.

 
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How stupid are people that buy/rent cell phones, ring cameras, Alexa, or pretty much any sort of technology today.
You can’t seriously believe everyone today isn’t being watched or listened to in some sort of way.

People are stupid when they use certain devices. But that doesn't change the fact that an automaker is recording everything inside a vehicle and can obtain the video if needed. I love how people like you are ok with musk recording you but would have a cow if it was someone else like Ford or GM. For me, I don't want any of them recording me in a vehicle I own.
 
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Sure, tell yourself that. Musk is going to retrieve the video. Now musk will be working for the government and so now the government can get their hands on the video. You have to be a complete fool to allow musk to record everything that’s done or said in your vehicle.

Unlike a Ring camera, they have to get the video from the device, it’s not uploaded somewhere.

It’s in the same category as any security camera footage, if the government has probable cause they can get it.
 
Unlike a Ring camera, they have to get the video from the device, it’s not uploaded somewhere.

It’s in the same category as any security camera footage, if the government has probable cause they can get it.
Are you ok with someone putting a camera is your house? Why are you ok with one in your car that you don’t control? What is wrong with some of you where you’re ok with a manufacturer recording within your personal property? That’s extremely crazy and stupid to allow it.
 
Tesla: We’re going to record you in the vehicle you bought.
Owner: What are you going to do with the footage?
Tesla: Give it to the police if they want it.
 
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Tesla: We’re going to record you in the vehicle you bought.
Owner: What are you going to do with the footage?
Tesla: Give it to the police if they want it.
Now every accident involving a tesla will include the lawyers and police reviewing the video to see if the driver is distracted. People have their heads so far up trump and elon’s ass they’re willing to give up their personal freedoms.
 
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Sounds like the dus had a mental break. Ptsd often shows up 5 or 10 years afterwards and can be devastating. Looks like a mental breakdown accompanied by a suicide. If he had wanted to blow things up he would have and it wouldn't have simply been some gas cans and fireworks.

Vets need access to mental health supports years after they get out
 
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People are stupid when they use certain devices. But that doesn't change the fact that an automaker is recording everything inside a vehicle and can obtain the video if needed. I love how people like you are ok with musk recording you but would have a cow if it was someone else like Ford or GM. For me, I don't want any of them recording me in a vehicle I own.
But you are ok with a cell phone recording everything you do? Whats one of the first thing detectives do when trying to catch a criminal. They get cell phones records and see where the person is/was located. Then they can figure out who he has been talking/texting with. A phone is always tracking what you do and say. But when Musk does it; it’s the end of the line for you. I suppose you don’t think anyone would ever wrongfully use cell phone technology. No one every commits evil crimes either.
 
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Now every accident involving a tesla will include the lawyers and police reviewing the video to see if the driver is distracted. People have their heads so far up trump and elon’s ass they’re willing to give up their personal freedoms.

Tesla or no,.. there are currently enough smart devices on the street to pretty much guarantee that every personal action will recorded at some level,.. Get used to it.
 
But you are ok with a cell phone recording everything you do? Whats one of the first thing detectives do when trying to catch a criminal. They get cell phones records and see where the person is/was located. Then they can figure out who he has been talking/texting with. A phone is always tracking what you do and say. But when Musk does it; it’s the end of the line for you. I suppose you don’t think anyone would ever wrongfully use cell phone technology. No one every commits evil crimes either.

Think about what you're doing, you're justifying a car maker recording everything you do in your car. It has nothing to do with a cell phone. To be honest I'm not ok with the phone recording everything but it's a trade off. I would have a problem if Apple was always recording video. There is no reason that a tesla is recording everything inside a car. My opinion isn't based on musk, I wouldn't buy any make of vehicle if the maker was always recording video. You're only ok with it because it's trump/musk, which is really scary because there's a bunch of you people in this country. You'll allow anything if it's trump or someone in his cult group. In four years you'll be on here bitching about the democrat president using tesla video to capturing republicans getting a bj in the parking lot.

You're response is laughable because it proves my point, the police and the lawyers will go straight to the video when a tesla is in a car accident. Or better yet, the insurance companies will start reviewing the videos. Do you really want the video used against you? Just think what might have happened to Fran's son if there was video of him not paying attention before hitting the runner. Maybe he was looking down at his phone. If you want people to have video of you, then get a tesla, you'll be a fool if you do. I'll stick with a car that won't get me put in jail.
 
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Tesla or no,.. there are currently enough smart devices on the street to pretty much guarantee that every personal action will recorded at some level,.. Get used to it.

Not in my car and not in my house. I own those things and no one should be recording me in what I own. You're a complete fool to think it's ok for someone else to record everything inside you're own car.
 
Not in my car and not in my house. I own those things and no one should be recording me in what I own. You're a complete fool to think it's ok for someone else to record everything inside you're own car.

I didn't say it was okay,.. I said it's now a fact of life,.. There's nowhere to hide anymore, so live your life as if you're on film, because mostly you are.
 
Think about what you're doing, you're justifying a car maker recording everything you do in your car. It has nothing to do with a cell phone. To be honest I'm not ok with the phone recording everything but it's a trade off. I would have a problem if Apple was always recording video. There is no reason that a tesla is recording everything inside a car. My opinion isn't based on musk, I wouldn't buy any make of vehicle if the maker was always recording video. You're only ok with it because it's trump/musk, which is really scary because there's a bunch of you people in this country. You'll allow anything if it's trump or someone in his cult group. In four years you'll be on here bitching about the democrat president using tesla video to capturing republicans getting a bj in the parking lot.

You're response is laughable because it proves my point, the police and the lawyers will go straight to the video when a tesla is in a car accident. Or better yet, the insurance companies will start reviewing the videos. Do you really want the video used against you? Just think what might have happened to Fran's son if there was video of him not paying attention before hitting the runner. Maybe he was looking down at his phone. If you want people to have video of you, then get a tesla, you'll be a fool if you do. I'll stick with a car that won't get me put in jail.
I couldn’t care any less if it was a musk made vehicle or a Biden made vehicle. I personally wouldn’t and won’t buy one because it’s hideous looking and way over priced. I also probably wouldn’t want a vehicle that’s recording what I do inside of said vehicle.
It appears some people done give two shits that it records them. Not sure why the fvck you care so much about a vehicle you don’t own that is recording someone that isn’t you.
Do you realize by now that unless you are still hiding in mom and dad’s basement, someone probably has a recording of you within the last week. Heck if you went past my house, I have a recording of you. Shouldn’t be to big of a deal unless you’re trying to hide something.
 
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Tesla or no,.. there are currently enough smart devices on the street to pretty much guarantee that every personal action will recorded at some level,.. Get used to it.


This. It’s inevitable and will only increase in magnitude. People who freak out over being tracked or monitored either have things to hide or grossly overrate their importance in the world.
 
I didn't say it was okay,.. I said it's now a fact of life,.. There's nowhere to hide anymore, so live your life as if you're on film, because mostly you are.

It's not a fact of life that every automaker is recording you inside your car. So you do have a choice, buy a car where you are being recorded or buy a car where you are not being recorded. Why would anyone choose to buy something where they're being recorded and that recording can be used against you. As long as there are cars not recording me, I choose to pick one of them.
 
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It's not a fact of life that every automaker is recording you inside your car. So you do have a choice, buy a car where you are being recorded or buy a car where you are not being recorded. Why would anyone choose to buy something where they're being recorded and that recording can be used against you. As long as there are cars not recording me, I choose to pick one of them.
CSB. What do you plan on doing when all automakers start recording you? Do you plan to walk everywhere?
 
This. It’s inevitable and will only increase in magnitude. People who freak out over being tracked or monitored either have things to hide or grossly overrate their importance in the world.

It's not about freaking out, it about my right to privacy. I love the "you must have something to hide" answer, that's a classic. I guess you're ok if the police want to wonder into your house or allow a home builder to install cameras where they can record you. There is no personal value in allowing an automaker to record me in my own car. You're a idiot if you choose that option when there are other options available.
 
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I couldn’t care any less if it was a musk made vehicle or a Biden made vehicle. I personally wouldn’t and won’t buy one because it’s hideous looking and way over priced. I also probably wouldn’t want a vehicle that’s recording what I do inside of said vehicle.
It appears some people done give two shits that it records them. Not sure why the fvck you care so much about a vehicle you don’t own that is recording someone that isn’t you.
Do you realize by now that unless you are still hiding in mom and dad’s basement, someone probably has a recording of you within the last week. Heck if you went past my house, I have a recording of you. Shouldn’t be to big of a deal unless you’re trying to hide something.

So you do admit that you don't want to be recorded. I'm fully aware that when I go out in public, I'm being recorded. You just wait, there will be a lawsuit and a criminal case where someone is recorded and the video shows them dropping their fries and looking away. I'm certainly not going to put myself in a position where it will be worse for me because of a video that shouldn't need to be taken.
 
It's not about freaking out, it about my right to privacy. I love the "you must have something to hide" answer, that's a classic. I guess you're ok if the police want to wonder into your house or allow a home builder to install cameras where they can record you. There is no personal value in allowing an automaker to record me in my own car. You're a idiot if you choose that option when there are other options available.

Well, you can always go Amish. Send us postcards.
 
Well, you can always go Amish. Send us postcards.
Some of you people are so extreme, either I have to be ok with recording me in my own car or I need to go Amish. How about a own a vehicle that doesn't record me, like what I currently own. I'll let the idiots buy the cars that are recording them.

Would you buy a toaster that's recording you in your house? I'm sure you'd be ok with it, you have nothing to hide, right?
 
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I'll deal with it when the time comes, but for now, I will not buy a vehicle that is recording me or my family.


See that’s the correct answer.

If you do not like the product, do not buy it. Why worry about something that other consumers obviously have no problem with.
 
So you do admit that you don't want to be recorded. I'm fully aware that when I go out in public, I'm being recorded. You just wait, there will be a lawsuit and a criminal case where someone is recorded and the video shows them dropping their fries and looking away. I'm certainly not going to put myself in a position where it will be worse for me because of a video that shouldn't need to be taken.
Bro, it’s the shit world we live in. Technology will be the death of us.
Could you imagine being the owner of an NBA team and be forced to sell it because someone secretly recorded something that you said.
No one is hiding anything with musk and his vehicles. People are buying them and aren’t offended by it. Like I mentioned in a different thread. The problem will be when every vehicle manufacturer starts to do this and you have no other choice unless you want to walk everywhere.
 
See that’s the correct answer.

If you do not like the product, do not buy it. Why worry about something that other consumers obviously have no problem with.

I haven't been worried about it. All I ever posted was that people must be idiots to buy a car that's recording them and be ok with it just because it elon musk. People have been defending the recording in the car.
 
You’ll just bitch about how some people buy those vehicles and don’t care that it is recording them. Nothing to do with you at all.

I'm not bitching, I'm just saying people are idiots for buying them. Those same people are only ok with it because it's musk. Anyone who's thinking straight would not want to have their car maker recording them. It's that simple.
 
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