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Bro, it’s the shit world we live in. Technology will be the death of us.
Could you imagine being the owner of an NBA team and be forced to sell it because someone secretly recorded something that you said.
No one is hiding anything with musk and his vehicles. People are buying them and aren’t offended by it. Like I mentioned in a different thread. The problem will be when every vehicle manufacturer starts to do this and you have no other choice unless you want to walk everywhere.

Every car maker will if there aren't enough people to say no.
 
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Some of you people are so extreme, either I have to be ok with recording me in my own car or I need to go Amish. How about a own a vehicle that doesn't record me, like what I currently own. I'll let the idiots buy the cars that are recording them.

Would you buy a toaster that's recording you in your house? I'm sure you'd be ok with it, you have nothing to hide, right?


Going Amish might seem “extreme” to you now, but given your outlook, it won’t soon enough.
 
Every car maker will if there aren't enough people to say no.
Just like every cell phone company currently does. People don’t care because they want the cell phone. When the options are a car that records me or I walk. I’ll probably choose the car just like the cell phone.
What’s really dumb about your argument is that it’s probably easier to live without the recording phone then it is the recording vehicle.
 
See that’s the correct answer.

If you do not like the product, do not buy it. Why worry about something that other consumers obviously have no problem with.
I don’t think everyone was aware that Tesla’s did this. They should be, so they can make an informed buying decision.
 
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Going Amish might seem “extreme” to you now, but given your outlook, it won’t soon enough.

I'm not to worried about the other automakers adding continuous recording on the inside of the car. Now that it's come out that tesla is doing it, there's probably going to be some discussion around privacy. I think it's going to be a problem with them recording someone changing their kids clothes/diaper in the car. But for now I'm fine, I'll continue to drive my Honda and Toyota.
 
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Just like every cell phone company currently does. People don’t care because they want the cell phone. When the options are a car that records me or I walk. I’ll probably choose the car just like the cell phone.
What’s really dumb about your argument is that it’s probably easier to live without the recording phone then it is the recording vehicle.

Recording video is a whole new level of craziness.
 
I'm not bitching, I'm just saying people are idiots for buying them. Those same people are only ok with it because it's musk. Anyone who's thinking straight would not want to have their car maker recording them. It's that simple.

So because other people don’t care if they are being recorded driving their car….they are idiots?

Exactly what do you do in your car that you do not want recorded?

You do realize many people actually put their own cameras in their car and intentionally record what happens.
 
Recording video is a whole new level of craziness.
But recording the audio is totally normal. Once again, a few years from now, this will be considered normal. Also why do you care so much about a vehicle you don’t own, recording what happens in said vehicle you don’t own.
 
Look at what people are willing to accept now. A car they purchased, recording them, and the footage can be used against them if necessary. I'd say it's unbelievable, but here are people on this site seemingly happy to have their life spied on by private companies and the authorities. Your privacy belongs to Elon now. He seems stable, I wouldn't worry.
 
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So because other people don’t care if they are being recorded driving their car….they are idiots?

Exactly what do you do in your car that you do not want recorded?

You do realize many people actually put their own cameras in their car and intentionally record what happens.

I believe I've said it many times, if there's a recording that tesla (or any automaker) has access to, the police and lawyer will get access and use it against you. Also, I don't know about you but if you have a family there are times when kids are changing in the car or changing diapers. And if we want to discuss when I was in my 20's, there's definitely some things I did that I wouldn't want recorded.

If a person decides to put a camera in their car, that's their decision and they own the recording. Having an automaker do it and have access to it just doesn't seem right to me. I find it really odd that you're so ok with it.
 
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But recording the audio is totally normal. Once again, a few years from now, this will be considered normal. Also why do you care so much about a vehicle you don’t own, recording what happens in said vehicle you don’t own.

I don't think it will be normal for recording video by an automaker. I don't want the automaker recording audio either.

I don't really care if people have a car that's being recorded, I've just said people are stupid for owning one. You yourself said you wouldn't like it either, but for some reason, I'm guessing because musk likes trump, you feel the need to defend video being recorded.
 
I don't think it will be normal for recording video by an automaker. I don't want the automaker recording audio either.

I don't really care if people have a car that's being recorded, I've just said people are stupid for owning one. You yourself said you wouldn't like it either, but for some reason, I'm guessing because musk likes trump, you feel the need to defend video being recorded.
I think you have more of an issue with musk and trump beings you have brought the two of them together up multiple times now. As I mentioned earlier, I wouldn’t care if it was Biden that made the car with recording technology. If someone wants to have it in their vehicle, I couldn’t care any less. What I have mentioned that I find comical is that you say people are stupid for owning these vehicles for this reason yet it’s fine for you to own a cell phone that can track everything you do and say just the same. Is it stupid for planes to have a black box as well?
 
I think you have more of an issue with musk and trump beings you have brought the two of them together up multiple times now. As I mentioned earlier, I wouldn’t care if it was Biden that made the car with recording technology. If someone wants to have it in their vehicle, I couldn’t care any less. What I have mentioned that I find comical is that you say people are stupid for owning these vehicles for this reason yet it’s fine for you to own a cell phone that can track everything you do and say just the same. Is it stupid for planes to have a black box as well?

I don't have a problem with musk/trump for this topic, I have a problem with any automaker recording everything in the car. And yes I think people are stupid for allowing it to happen. Are you really going to compare this to the black box of an airplane? That is some weird ass thinking to relate the two topics. And again, my phone isn't recording video and I can choose to turn it off or not take it with me. If you want to be recorded in your car, I'm fine with you being recorded, I just think it's a stupid idea. Go for it, have fun, you don't need my approval and you'll never get my approval.
 
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I don't have a problem with musk/trump for this topic, I have a problem with any automaker recording everything in the car. And yes I think people are stupid for allowing it to happen. Are you really going to compare this to the black box of an airplane? That is some weird ass thinking to relate the two topics. And again, my phone isn't recording video and I can choose to turn it off or not take it with me. If you want to be recorded in your car, I'm fine with you being recorded, I just think it's a stupid idea. Go for it, have fun, you don't need my approval and you'll never get my approval.
What am I going for, having fun with and what am I asking your approval for?
 
I believe I've said it many times, if there's a recording that tesla (or any automaker) has access to, the police and lawyer will get access and use it against you. Also, I don't know about you but if you have a family there are times when kids are changing in the car or changing diapers. And if we want to discuss when I was in my 20's, there's definitely some things I did that I wouldn't want recorded.

If a person decides to put a camera in their car, that's their decision and they own the recording. Having an automaker do it and have access to it just doesn't seem right to me. I find it really odd that you're so ok with it.

First, the decision to have the camera in your Tesla is your own decision.

Don’t buy that brand of car if you do not like it. It really is that simple.

Why is odd that I don’t have a problem with it? First I do not own a Tesla so it has zero impact on my life, second the video is not accessible remotely, thirdly, I just drive a car. Thousands of people see me do that every day in person, and god only knows how many cameras not in my car picks me up driving my car.

I would have no problem with a lawyer or cop having access to a video of me driving, why would I?
 
What am I going for, having fun with and what am I asking your approval for?

As I've said before, if you want a car from a automaker that is recording everything inside the car, then do it, that's your decision. I just think you have to be an idiot to be ok with it.
 
First, the decision to have the camera in your Tesla is your own decision.

Don’t buy that brand of car if you do not like it. It really is that simple.

Why is odd that I don’t have a problem with it? First I do not own a Tesla so it has zero impact on my life, second the video is not accessible remotely, thirdly, I just drive a car. Thousands of people see me do that every day in person, and god only knows how many cameras not in my car picks me up driving my car.

I would have no problem with a lawyer or cop having access to a video of me driving, why would I?

If you think it's ok for an automaker to record everything you do inside a car that you own, then good for you. I personally think someone has to be a idiot to allow that to happen.
 
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If you think it's ok for an automaker to record everything you do inside a car that you own, then good for you. I personally think someone has to be a idiot to allow that to happen.
I think someone has to be an idiot to jump to such a conclusion.
 
As I've said before, if you want a car from a automaker that is recording everything inside the car, then do it, that's your decision. I just think you have to be an idiot to be ok with it.
Not sure if you know this but talking to that guy is like talking to a stump…
 
Not sure if you know this but talking to that guy is like talking to a stump…
I think you’re right. He keeps thinking I want a musk mobile when I’ve told him about 5 times that I don’t. He also doesn’t seem to realize that other technology (cell phones) are used against a person that commits a crime as well. Only difference is that one was made by musk and from what I read on here, you physically need to get into the vehicle to get the recording. Whereas a cell phone isn’t needed if someone wants your cell phone history. They can get your location, call history and prior texts without access to your phone.
 
If you think it's ok for an automaker to record everything you do inside a car that you own, then good for you. I personally think someone has to be a idiot to allow that to happen.

I don't care.

If I did, I just wouldn't be buying that type of car

Tell me why I would care if someone was recording me driving.
 
I think you’re right. He keeps thinking I want a musk mobile when I’ve told him about 5 times that I don’t. He also doesn’t seem to realize that other technology (cell phones) are used against a person that commits a crime as well. Only difference is that one was made by musk and from what I read on here, you physically need to get into the vehicle to get the recording. Whereas a cell phone isn’t needed if someone wants your cell phone history. They can get your location, call history and prior texts without access to your phone.
Cool. Hope Elon doesn’t cut your job, Bud…
 
Cool. Weird how I haven’t talked about being in love or wanting what musk has or offers even remotely once yet you seem to think I like the guy.
BTW I highly doubt hey will cut my job. However I’ll be pretty upset if he does.
Historically, you have been a pro-MAGA poster, not? If I am incorrect, I apologize for the confusion. If I am correct, you made the bed, sleep in it…
 
Historically, you have been a pro-MAGA poster, not? If I am incorrect, I apologize for the confusion. If I am correct, you made the bed, sleep in it…
I’d say I’m much more anti liberal than anything. I voted for Trump but am far from MAGA. Like I mentioned earlier in this post, I would never buy a musk mobile. Doesn’t sound very pro-MAGA to me.
 
I don't care.

If I did, I just wouldn't be buying that type of car

Tell me why I would care if someone was recording me driving.

I've already stated it multiple times. If you're ever in an accident the police, lawyers, insurance companies will get their hands on the video and the video could be used against you if you're eating or looking at the radio or distracted in some other way. When I was younger I definitely wouldn't want video of me or my kids when they were changing clothes in the car or changing diapers. Most people don't act the same way in public as they do in private. With video, what you do inside your car becomes public, I would rather it stays private. If there are cameras outside my car, that's fine, I just don't need an automaker recording video of me. What is the rational for an automaker to record and have access to video of me in my car that I own?
 
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I’d say I’m much more anti liberal than anything. I voted for Trump but am far from MAGA. Like I mentioned earlier in this post, I would never buy a musk mobile. Doesn’t sound very pro-MAGA to me.
Well that’s all good and fine but if you voted for Bonespurs, Elon is a packaged deal and it is your own fault if he cuts your job. I couldn’t care less about his effing cars….
 
I've already stated it multiple times. If you're ever in an accident the police, lawyers, insurance companies will get their hands on the video and the video could be used against you if you're eating or looking at the radio or distracted in some other way. When I was younger I definitely wouldn't want video of me or my kids when they were changing clothes in the car or changing diapers. Most people don't act the same way in public as they do in private. With video, what you do inside your car becomes public, I would rather it stays private. If there are cameras outside my car, that's fine, I just don't need an automaker recording video of me. What is the rational for an automaker to record and have access to video of me in my car that I own?

So if you are at fault for an accident, you are worried they will have proof?

Again, how does this impact your life?

Why do you care so much that other people have no problem with it and purchase a vehicle knowing that is one of its features?

Also highly suggest you do not move to Vegas…you will be recorded just about everywhere you go, including in your car.
 
I’d say I’m much more anti liberal than anything. I voted for Trump but am far from MAGA. Like I mentioned earlier in this post, I would never buy a musk mobile. Doesn’t sound very pro-MAGA to me.

While I get what you're saying, your posting doesn't support it. I'd say I'm anti-trump who voted for Harris. I consider myself an independent. If you were truly anti-liberal and not MAGA, I don't think you would have responded so many time to me where you were defending the recording. I personally can't imagine anyone would want an automaker recording them. But I can see where someone who loves trump and musk would be ok with it because they don't want to say something bad about the two of them. While you had stated early on that you wouldn't by a tesla, you kept disagreeing with me. So if you're someone who doesn't want to be recorded but is defending musk, you must feel some type of attachment to musk and trump, because why else would you defend them if you truly thought it was wrong. It's sounds like you lean a little MAGA to me.
 
So if you are at fault for an accident, you are worried they will have proof?

Again, how does this impact your life?

Why do you care so much that other people have no problem with it and purchase a vehicle knowing that is one of its features?

Also highly suggest you do not move to Vegas…you will be recorded just about everywhere you go, including in your car.

Why do you have a problem with me not wanting to be recorded in my own car? I've already said I don't care if you want a car that's recording you, I just think you're an idiot for allowing it. Go ahead and buy one, you don't need my permission.

That same old argument that you're being recorded by other means. I know that, and that's fine, I just don't want someone recording in my personal vehicle that I own. Are you ok with someone putting a camera in your house and recording? I'm guessing you are, especially if musk does it?
 
While I get what you're saying, your posting doesn't support it. I'd say I'm anti-trump who voted for Harris. I consider myself an independent. If you were truly anti-liberal and not MAGA, I don't think you would have responded so many time to me where you were defending the recording. I personally can't imagine anyone would want an automaker recording them. But I can see where someone who loves trump and musk would be ok with it because they don't want to say something bad about the two of them. While you had stated early on that you wouldn't by a tesla, you kept disagreeing with me. So if you're someone who doesn't want to be recorded but is defending musk, you must feel some type of attachment to musk and trump, because why else would you defend them if you truly thought it was wrong. It's sounds like you lean a little MAGA to me.
I don’t ever think I said I was for the recording. However I think it will be common in a few more years. I also think it’s a weird thing to be angry about when your cell phone is essentially doing the same exact thing the musk vehicle is doing, yet you have no problem with that.
 
I don’t ever think I said I was for the recording. However I think it will be common in a few more years. I also think it’s a weird thing to be angry about when your cell phone is essentially doing the same exact thing the musk vehicle is doing, yet you have no problem with that.

If you're not defending it then why have you had so many response posts to me. I'm not angry at all, I've just pointed out that you have to be an idiot to own a vehicle where the maker is able to video record everything you do in the car you own. Sounds like they own all rights to the inside of your car. You keep using the cell phone as an example but it's not the same thing. Do you have a cell phone that's video recording 24/7 even inside your house? Would you own a cell phone that was always video recording and Verizon/AT&T are allowed to get to the videos?
 
If you're not defending it then why have you had so many response posts to me. I'm not angry at all, I've just pointed out that you have to be an idiot to own a vehicle where the maker is able to video record everything you do in the car you own. Sounds like they own all rights to the inside of your car. You keep using the cell phone as an example but it's not the same thing. Do you have a cell phone that's video recording 24/7 even inside your house? Would you own a cell phone that was always video recording and Verizon/AT&T are allowed to get to the videos?
Like I’ve asked you a couple of times. Is it really much different when that cell phone company knows where you were at any point in time. It knows everyone that you have called and it can read any one of your texts.
The only difference I think is that Verizon/AT&T doesn’t have a video of you jacking off. But in all reality, they probably do. The porn site you’re watching probably records you pleasuring yourself as well.
 
Like I’ve asked you a couple of times. Is it really much different when that cell phone company knows where you were at any point in time. It knows everyone that you have called and it can read any one of your texts.
The only difference I think is that Verizon/AT&T doesn’t have a video of you jacking off. But in all reality, they probably do. The porn site you’re watching probably records you pleasuring yourself as well.
For someone who claims he’s not defending musk recording video, you’re sure spending a lot of time defending it. Just like how you defend trump and maga. I don’t think you want to admit what you truly feel inside. No one should be recording video in my house or car. If you’re ok with it then let others install cameras and record inside your house. As I’ve said, you’re free to allow it, but I’m not going to. I think anyone who allows it is an idiot, you decide what you want.
 
For someone who claims he’s not defending musk recording video, you’re sure spending a lot of time defending it. Just like how you defend trump and maga. I don’t think you want to admit what you truly feel inside. No one should be recording video in my house or car. If you’re ok with it then let others install cameras and record inside your house. As I’ve said, you’re free to allow it, but I’m not going to. I think anyone who allows it is an idiot, you decide what you want.
For the millionth time. I think it’s stupid and wouldn’t want it but I’m also not as stupid as you and think that musk vehicles are the only thing in this world recording someone. I don’t defend any of these people recording me but I know that this technology is out there and is being used. Why don’t you bitch about all companies that do this instead of bitching about one company because it is tied to maga?
 
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