Didn't you post several times you saw books fly through the air by themselves?
What caused it?
Face it you heathens... the Bible is VERIFIABLE HISTORY
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Didn't you post several times you saw books fly through the air by themselves?
What caused it?
I would not include Oprah in that. Every religion other than Christianity views Jesus as a teacher and a prophet.
Study comparative religion. Christianity wasn’t even created until 400 years after his death.
I’m surprised that some of the most “Christian “ on these boards have not studied the history.
Wow Brian. That is not what I learned at all.
The fish and feeding everyone was a lesson sharing. He didn’t make more fish.
Incorrect
The term Christian is mentioned in Acts 11:26
Acts was written between 33CE-61CE by Luke. So literally 30 years after the death of Jesus.
The Christianity you refer to is the deathbed conversion of Constantine , st the council of nicea .
The Catholic Church was created way before that.
Here's a letter from 110 A.D. from Ignatius of Antioch where he mentions the Catholic Church.
Just FYI.
Also, in Judaism, Jesus is considered a heretic. Most other religions honor Him in some way, though.
"Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
CHURCH FATHERS: Epistle to the Smyrnaeans (St. Ignatius)
Featuring the Church Fathers, Catholic Encyclopedia, Summa Theologica and more.
www.newadvent.org
I meant this parable, not the feeding of the 5,000.
My b.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 13:47-50 - New International Version
The Parable of the Net - “Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. This is how it...
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Wow. I guess my religious upbringing differs greatly from yours and others.The Catholic Church was created way before that.
Here's a letter from 110 A.D. from Ignatius of Antioch where he mentions the Catholic Church.
Just FYI.
Also, in Judaism, Jesus is considered a heretic. Most other religions honor Him in some way, though.
"Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
CHURCH FATHERS: Epistle to the Smyrnaeans (St. Ignatius)
Featuring the Church Fathers, Catholic Encyclopedia, Summa Theologica and more.www.newadvent.org
Interpretations of the Bible vary greatly in this thread.
That letter I linked from Ignatius of Antioch is historical and from 110 A.D.
I thought you would find it interesting.
I do find these things interesting, but also remember, my family immigrated here very early on, and mostly for religious reasons. The MD Catholics, the Huguenots, and those escaping Cromwell.That letter I linked from Ignatius of Antioch is historical and from 110 A.D.
I thought you would find it interesting.
They all read different Bibles.
Interestingly enough, I was associated with a family briefly that were Plymouth Brethren.
They believe the Darby translation was the most accurate, claiming Darby could translate Aramaic, and he was the only one who could.
One of their main tenets is “the son Is not greater than the father”.
Have you read that?
What would your interpretation be?
Cool history!
My family on both sides came to America in the 1700's. My maternal side still has a letter from a relative that was killed in the Revolutionary War and died in his brother's arms. His name was Sam, I think. His surviving brother wrote the letter.
Regarding that passage, Jesus was trying to assure the apostles before the crucifixion.
Jesus had a human nature as well; greatness could mean a different role since the Father sent the Son into the world to save it. The Father sent the Son into the world so in that sense, the Father is greater than the Son.
I know the Trinity can be complicated.
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I don't think this dating is widely supported. Generally speaking the proposed date for acts start in the 60s. A lot of people like the year 62 because it coincides with Paul's imprisonment. But it is most commonly dated between 60-90, although some suggest it is much later. Mainly because it may be pulling from Josephus. We don't see any external references until the late 2nd century.
When the Christian church was established is highly debatable and dependent on how you define the church.
Acts was definitely before 70 and likely before 62 since no mention of James’s martyrdom.
Christians agree the church began in the day of Pentecost (so early 30’s).
Me thinks you are selectively ignoring God’s omnipotence in favor of omniscience.
God can create anything, including a world where free-will is compatible with His omniscience.
Simply put, God can know the outcome of an infinite amount of choices. But you still have choice.
Pretend you are driving towards a solid concrete wall and are getting close:
- If you choose to drive 100mph into that solid concrete wall, God knows the outcome of your horrific smashing death along with the subsequent outcomes resulting from your choice (mainly, your wife cursing your name till she dies and how she ends up marrying your insurance guy).
- If you choose to drive only 10mph into that solid concrete wall, God knows that your car will suffer a little damage and your head will bump the steering wheel. He knows you will have a mild headache for a few hours and knows that your wife will nag you for eternity for being dumb enough to drive into a wall.
God knows both outcomes (and all related subsequent outcomes) simultaneously. You still get to choose and God knows exactly what happens.
Gods Omnipotence should not be ignored when talking about His Omniscience.
Most scholars put it between 80-90. And there is a growing group of scholars advocating for a later date. Some conservative scholars advocate for an early date in the 60s.
This is actually not true. The Jewish revolt and subsequent destruction of Jerusalem is well known to occur in AD70. Acts makes no mention. This is how we know it was written before AD70. Then there are other events (like mentioned earlier) known to take earlier that Acts also doesn’t mention pushing the date to the early 60’s.
So this god can make a rock so heavy that he can't possibly lift it? That's where omnipotence takes you - just another mutually exclusive conundrum. You really haven't solved one omni-problem by invoking another.
God can’t do anything that are logically contradictory (make square circles and the like).
You just postulated a being who can know every outcome of every minute choice by every living creature in the universe.
I really feel for those that overthink “almighty”.
Faith helps people. Hope helps people and so does love.
To be obsessed with anything is not healthy.
Everyone has their own tenets and beliefs. We should leave it at that.
The beauty of the Ottoman Empire for a period of time was that they encouraged education, and they welcomed all religions.
They all live peacefully for a time
Then guess what happened?
Faith helps people. Hope helps people and so does love.
To be obsessed with anything is not healthy.
Everyone has their own tenets and beliefs. We should leave it at that.
The beauty of the Ottoman Empire for a period of time was that they encouraged education, and they welcomed all religions.
They all live peacefully for a time
Then guess what happened?
