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  • NYC

    Votes: 45 30.4%
  • LA

    Votes: 14 9.5%
  • Windy City

    Votes: 72 48.6%
  • Houston

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • Phoenix

    Votes: 14 9.5%

  • Total voters
    148
Never been to Phoenix. Spent a few days, but not much longer, in each of the others.

LA was probably my favorite. I enjoy the LA alt-comedy scene vicariously through podcasts, and I could easily spend every night out at shows. I caught several when I was there for a few days. I generally enjoyed the vibe there, I think I could enjoy living there.

Chicago was cool, I really enjoyed the food a lot, and I wouldn't mind going again. I guess I missed whatever the magic is that people love about it, but it didn't strike me as super special. Would never be able to handle the weather.

Houston, being from Atlanta, felt surprisingly "comfortable". I did like the restaurants. I wouldn't mind living there if I had to, but don't have any desire to.

New York...man New York brings up a lot of mixed feelings that I have a hard time describing. I grew up idolizing (not sure if that's the right word) NYC, and I'm of the age that my first visits were in the "bad old days". I used to absolutely LOVE the feeling of just getting out on the street there, just felt the energy pulsing through it. I really felt like it would be the best place in the world to live. I felt that way from visits from the 80s through the late 90s.

On visits since...I'm just not feeling it anymore. I'm not one of the "New York was better when it was a shithole" people. I'm not extoling the virtues of stepping over a vagrant shooting up smack outside a porno theater to go see "My Fair Lady." It's good that's passed. HOWEVER, the city doesn't really feel "real" to me any more. There's just something about the corporatization of every inch of Manhattan that leaves me feeling a lot more like I'm visiting the Vegas Strip or Universal City Walk than what I used to feel in NY.

I don't know. There's something that sits really weird about taking a tour and everything is like:

"This is the famous Carmichael Building. In the 1920s, Tammany Hall politicians met here to plan campaigns. In 1956 Lito "Pig Nose" Carpose was murdered on the front steps in a gangland slaying. A fire in 1970 gutted the inside, and it was condemned, but a community of squatting artists grew up around the building, that would eventually lead to the Clambeyo movement of modern sculpture. It was purchased by Associated conglomerated holdings in 2001 for 900k, and currently consists of 38 micro-lofts that sell for $9M a piece. South Korean Billionaire Ky Sun Hoon owns the entire penthouse floor.

"Please note the brownstone at the corner. In 1840 this was built by Irish and German immigrants who raised pigs in the basement level and slaughtered them in front of the building. In 1863, the entire block burned down in the draft riots. Rebuilt in 1890, this block became the center piece of first the Italian immigrant community, and then the Puerto Rican community. Broadway legend Peter Santos lived in a closet at 122b, and sold pencils on the corner while teaching himself to tap dance to drum up customers. It was spared during the race riots in 1969 because of the efforts of Wilson Tool and Die, who employed most of the residents on the factory line, who hired Chinese Tong to guard the perimeter from rioters. In 1999 the entire block was purchased by Shlagel Corporation for $1.2 million. Unit 22b is 1400 square feet and sold to Elon Musk's brother 2019 for $18.5M."

It's like that over and over, and it is just makes my stomach queasy. So much history, so much "real" history, and it's just been gobbled up to this ultra-expensive real estate. In like a generation or two places have gone from a place where an immigrant or an orphan might find a roof over their head to start a new life, to a "map of the stars" where you ogle at a home Knicks owner James Dolan once bought for a mistress. Restaurants that used to be hole in the wall miracles are now wrapped around the block with tourists spending three hours of a 48 hour stay in NYC waiting in line of a bacon donut featured on a Rachel Ray show.

Obviously, that's not everything. There are still plenty of cool, neat places to go and see and eat. But to me, those things are now the exception, not the rule. They're more like knowing you can order a beer on the secret menu at Goofy's Gut House in Disney World or something. The OVERALL vibe and energy of the City is just not the same, it just doesn't feel like the real deal anymore, it feels like a cynical and manufactured product. I used to feel like being in NYC was like being right in history while it was happening, while now it just feels like another tourist or sightseeing destination.
 
Never been to Phoenix. Spent a few days, but not much longer, in each of the others.

LA was probably my favorite. I enjoy the LA alt-comedy scene vicariously through podcasts, and I could easily spend every night out at shows. I caught several when I was there for a few days. I generally enjoyed the vibe there, I think I could enjoy living there.

Chicago was cool, I really enjoyed the food a lot, and I wouldn't mind going again. I guess I missed whatever the magic is that people love about it, but it didn't strike me as super special. Would never be able to handle the weather.

Houston, being from Atlanta, felt surprisingly "comfortable". I did like the restaurants. I wouldn't mind living there if I had to, but don't have any desire to.

New York...man New York brings up a lot of mixed feelings that I have a hard time describing. I grew up idolizing (not sure if that's the right word) NYC, and I'm of the age that my first visits were in the "bad old days". I used to absolutely LOVE the feeling of just getting out on the street there, just felt the energy pulsing through it. I really felt like it would be the best place in the world to live. I felt that way from visits from the 80s through the late 90s.

On visits since...I'm just not feeling it anymore. I'm not one of the "New York was better when it was a shithole" people. I'm not extoling the virtues of stepping over a vagrant shooting up smack outside a porno theater to go see "My Fair Lady." It's good that's passed. HOWEVER, the city doesn't really feel "real" to me any more. There's just something about the corporatization of every inch of Manhattan that leaves me feeling a lot more like I'm visiting the Vegas Strip or Universal City Walk than what I used to feel in NY.

I don't know. There's something that sits really weird about taking a tour and everything is like:

"This is the famous Carmichael Building. In the 1920s, Tammany Hall politicians met here to plan campaigns. In 1956 Lito "Pig Nose" Carpose was murdered on the front steps in a gangland slaying. A fire in 1970 gutted the inside, and it was condemned, but a community of squatting artists grew up around the building, that would eventually lead to the Clambeyo movement of modern sculpture. It was purchased by Associated conglomerated holdings in 2001 for 900k, and currently consists of 38 micro-lofts that sell for $9M a piece. South Korean Billionaire Ky Sun Hoon owns the entire penthouse floor.

"Please note the brownstone at the corner. In 1840 this was built by Irish and German immigrants who raised pigs in the basement level and slaughtered them in front of the building. In 1863, the entire block burned down in the draft riots. Rebuilt in 1890, this block became the center piece of first the Italian immigrant community, and then the Puerto Rican community. Broadway legend Peter Santos lived in a closet at 122b, and sold pencils on the corner while teaching himself to tap dance to drum up customers. It was spared during the race riots in 1969 because of the efforts of Wilson Tool and Die, who employed most of the residents on the factory line, who hired Chinese Tong to guard the perimeter from rioters. In 1999 the entire block was purchased by Shlagel Corporation for $1.2 million. Unit 22b is 1400 square feet and sold to Elon Musk's brother 2019 for $18.5M."

It's like that over and over, and it is just makes my stomach queasy. So much history, so much "real" history, and it's just been gobbled up to this ultra-expensive real estate. In like a generation or two places have gone from a place where an immigrant or an orphan might find a roof over their head to start a new life, to a "map of the stars" where you ogle at a home Knicks owner James Dolan once bought for a mistress. Restaurants that used to be hole in the wall miracles are now wrapped around the block with tourists spending three hours of a 48 hour stay in NYC waiting in line of a bacon donut featured on a Rachel Ray show.

Obviously, that's not everything. There are still plenty of cool, neat places to go and see and eat. But to me, those things are now the exception, not the rule. They're more like knowing you can order a beer on the secret menu at Goofy's Gut House in Disney World or something. The OVERALL vibe and energy of the City is just not the same, it just doesn't feel like the real deal anymore, it feels like a cynical and manufactured product. I used to feel like being in NYC was like being right in history while it was happening, while now it just feels like another tourist or sightseeing destination.
Chicago depends on what time of year you went. During the summer the public spaces on lake michigan are incredible along with the museums. In the winter it would be gross.
 
Of that list Chicago is the only one I have been to. Unless you are counting a connecting flight I had in Phoenix once.
 
For visiting, nyc and la are tied -- as different as possible but equally fantastic.
For living, I would take LA (although a nice apartment near central park would make me consider manhattan). As a bonus to places to see and things to do, LA (plus San Diego) has to have some of the most cheerful and beautiful people in the country.
 
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I voted for Chicago, but it's pretty much a tie with LA. Love the food and people in Chicago. While LA is sort of meh, the coastal communities are fantastic with great people, food, weather and recreation. I could live in Newport Beach in a second and never need to leave.

Houston should be nuked off the face of the earth.
 
Chicago depends on what time of year you went. During the summer the public spaces on lake michigan are incredible along with the museums. In the winter it would be gross.

I took a trip to Chicago in December many years ago and we had a blast. It was snowing, but not windy and with it being the holiday season, it was fun to be out walking around. The gf (no pic) on that trip was an absolute freak. I don't think I've ever had more secks in a two night period ever. It was awesome. CSB.
 
10-15 years ago I would have voted for Chicago but that town is shit now. That is why you are seeing so many people leave the city and Illinois in general.

PHX is great- weather, cheapish housing, tons to do outside. That's my vote
 
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I really don't like any of them, for various reasons. I don't like big cities because of traffic and feeling crowded all the time. When I have to work in a big city, I'm usually fortunate enough to be able to stay close to the office. I picked Houston, but only because I have friends and co-workers there.

NYC has a ton to offer, but I can never quite get over the feeling that people are piled on top of each other.
 
If you ranked Chicago last on that list youre clearly smoking crack

As long as Houston is in the top 5 in population there’s no way Chicago can be any worse than 4th.

Austin is a great city. Houston and Dallas are terrible cities for the size.
 
If you go by the size of the metro area Phoenix is number 13

Top 5 are NYC, LA, Chicago, DC Baltimore, and SF Bay

Followed by Boston, DFW, Houston, Philly, Miami

next 5 ATL, Detroit, then Phoenix, Seattle, Orlando
 
As long as Houston is in the top 5 in population there’s no way Chicago can be any worse than 4th.

Austin is a great city. Houston and Dallas are terrible cities for the size.

Meh....Houston is the diverse, multi-cultural, arts city that Austin pretends to be.
 
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Meh....Houston is the diverse, multi-cultural, arts city that Austin pretends to be.

I’m sure Houston is a fine city to live in as there wouldn’t be that many people without it. But it’s a terrible city to visit compared to the alternatives. It’s just a bland joyless city without much of interest for visitors like Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, OKC, etc... There are midsize and small cities in the greater South that I would MUCH rather visit as a tourist than Houston like Savannah, Tampa, Charleston, Asheville, Memphis, Nashville, Lafayette, Chattanooga, Louisville, etc... Houston is more like Virginia Beach, Ft Myers, Indianapolis, and DC minus the museums...bland strip malls one after another.

But I’m willing to have my mind changed, send me an itinerary for a three day stay and I’ll check it out again in the next two years.
 
Chicago depends on what time of year you went. During the summer the public spaces on lake michigan are incredible along with the museums. In the winter it would be gross.
The coldest I've ever been in Chicago in the winter. The actual temperature was -11. I'm sure most of you have been through worse, but that was by far the coldest I've been in. It was cold enough that the moisture inside my nose froze on the brief walk from the hotel to the restaurant.
 
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The coldest I've ever been in Chicago in the winter. The actual temperature was -11. I'm sure most of you have been through worse, but that was by far the coldest I've been in. It was cold enough that the moisture inside my nose froze on the brief walk from the hotel to the restaurant.
The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco.
 
The coldest I've ever been in Chicago in the winter. The actual temperature was -11. I'm sure most of you have been through worse, but that was by far the coldest I've been in. It was cold enough that the moisture inside my nose froze on the brief walk from the hotel to the restaurant.
You don't know that -11 feels like until you feel it. It is literally breathtaking and yeah the hairs in your nose freeze. Equally breathtaking - but in a different way - as 106 degree days I endured one summer in Wichita Falls TX.
 
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You don't know that -11 feels like until you feel it. It is literally breathtaking and yeah the hairs in your nose freeze. Equally breathtaking - but in a different way - as 106 degree days I endured one summer in Wichita Falls TX.
I went to college in WF, TX, so I'm familiar with the miserable heat there also!
 
The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco.

About 8 years ago, my wife came with me to LA & San Diego for work. We were going to spend the weekend in Vegas before going home. The night before we left San Diego for Vegas, we decided to add a flight to San Jose/SFO to see the Remington Mansion and have lunch by the bay before bouncing to Vegas. We are wearing clothes for the 110 degrees of Vegas when we stepped out of the car on Embarcadero and froze our asses off. Had to buy hoodies and have clam chowder at Pier 21.

CSB
 
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I went to college in WF, TX, so I'm familiar with the miserable heat there also!
Oh wow, I couldn't imagine 4 years of that. I was there from May into July for finance training in the Air Force. May was fine. Once into mid-June, it never really got below 90 even at midnight. Every day was the same. High was 103 to 107. Hot as f&ck. I say no thank you to that. After the training was over, I was happy to return to happy Hanscom AFB in Boston.
 
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About 8 years ago, my wife came with me to LA & San Diego for work. We were going to spend the weekend in Vegas before going home. The night before we left San Diego for Vegas, we decided to add a flight to San Jose/SFO to see the Remington Mansion and have lunch by the bay before bouncing to Vegas. We are wearing clothes for the 110 degrees of Vegas when we stepped out of the car on Embarcadero and froze our asses off. Had to buy hoodies and have clam chowder at Pier 21.

CSB
Hah. We were there a couple of summers ago when my son's team competed in the little league world series for 13-year olds in Livermore. Flew into SFO in July and were blasted with cold wind. Got out to Livermore and it was in the 90s. Spent a day downtown San Fran and it was incredible. And cold and windy AF. Took a boat tour in the bay and looking back at SF it reminded me of a city in a snow globe with swirling cold winds. csb.
 
Oh wow, I couldn't imagine 4 years of that. I was there from May into July for finance training in the Air Force. May was fine. Once into mid-June, it never really got below 90 even at midnight. Every day was the same. High was 103 to 107. Hot as f&ck. I say no thank you to that. After the training was over, I was happy to return to happy Hanscom AFB in Boston.
I was there for 6 years - through undergrad and grad. My grad school classes were actually on the base. It was hotter than most places in TX in the summer, it was colder than most places in the winter, it has to be the windiest place in the state (maybe 2nd to Lubbock?), and then there were the tornadoes! It's like it had the worst of everything!

I think you bring up a good point - it's not even the heat during the day, as much as it doesn't cool down at night. It just stays so hot and miserable! That was also the thing about going to Rangers games in the summer - it's 10pm and it's still 95 degrees out. I don't miss that at all. Here in Northern VA it may get to 95 during the day, but it drops back down to the low 70s at night.
 
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Tough list. Biggest plus for me in choosing a city is how easy it is to get away from the city. I get claustrophobic being surrounded by all those people and knowing it will take me hours to just leave town. When I lived in LA I lived on the edge and would leave every other weekend or so. Would take 3-4 hours of driving to get somewhere quiet. My brother lived down in Manhattan Beach and it took him an extra two hours on a Friday night.
Driving back late on Sunday I’d start getting anxious as the traffic would pick up and people would start driving like assholes. We left as soon as my wife finished her masters.
Soooooo Phoenix maybe?
 
I was there for 6 years - through undergrad and grad. My grad school classes were actually on the base. It was hotter than most places in TX in the summer, it was colder than most places in the winter, it has to be the windiest place in the state (maybe 2nd to Lubbock?), and then there were the tornadoes! It's like it had the worst of everything!

I think you bring up a good point - it's not even the heat during the day, as much as it doesn't cool down at night. It just stays so hot and miserable! That was also the thing about going to Rangers games in the summer - it's 10pm and it's still 95 degrees out. I don't miss that at all. Here in Northern VA it may get to 95 during the day, but it drops back down to the low 70s at night.
Haha we used to joke that the only thing between Canada and Lubbock was a barbed wire fence, and two strands of that were broken. That wind was brutal. One day I went to my surveying class and it was 70 degrees and sunny. By the time I got back it was 40 degrees and the wind was howling. Thought I was going to freeze to death.
 
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I’m sure Houston is a fine city to live in as there wouldn’t be that many people without it. But it’s a terrible city to visit compared to the alternatives. It’s just a bland joyless city without much of interest for visitors like Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, OKC, etc... There are midsize and small cities in the greater South that I would MUCH rather visit as a tourist than Houston like Savannah, Tampa, Charleston, Asheville, Memphis, Nashville, Lafayette, Chattanooga, Louisville, etc... Houston is more like Virginia Beach, Ft Myers, Indianapolis, and DC minus the museums...bland strip malls one after another.

But I’m willing to have my mind changed, send me an itinerary for a three day stay and I’ll check it out again in the next two years.

i agree. Hoston is blah. Nothing special. Nothing to write home about. Most cities have that one IT thing that makes it special. Not Houston.

Houston sucks
Indianapolis sucks
Buffalo sucks
Charlotte sucks
Detroit sucks ass twice on Sundays
San Diego nearly sucks
LA sucks

These are the awesome cities;
Boston
DC
Philly
Seattle
Kansas City
Madison
Columbus
STL sorta
Chicago
Vegas
San Francisco
Baltimore the clean parts
 
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I went to college in WF, TX, so I'm familiar with the miserable heat there also!

My brother-in-law is from Olney. His parents still live there...every year he tries to get me to go deer hunting up there on his parents land. The last time I went dove hunting was up there and it was brutally hot at 4:30 a.m......but at least it was a dry heat.
 
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I've lived in chicago for a long time, i love it here march - october. the rest of the year it sucks.
You could say mostly the same thing about the entire midwest. I think March still mostly sucks. Beginning of April sucks. Late April is nice. May through mid-October is fantastic. Mid-October through mid-november is hit/miss although this year it has been cold and sucky. Mid-November through March sucks again.
 
Chicago and NYC are tied for me. Great cities.

Phoenix and Houston are both hot AF - one dry, one moist.

LA is a shithole that I despise.
 
Tough list. Biggest plus for me in choosing a city is how easy it is to get away from the city. I get claustrophobic being surrounded by all those people and knowing it will take me hours to just leave town. When I lived in LA I lived on the edge and would leave every other weekend or so. Would take 3-4 hours of driving to get somewhere quiet. My brother lived down in Manhattan Beach and it took him an extra two hours on a Friday night.
Driving back late on Sunday I’d start getting anxious as the traffic would pick up and people would start driving like assholes. We left as soon as my wife finished her masters.
Soooooo Phoenix maybe?

It's amazing how much traffic in LA dictates your schedule and, essentially, your life. My Aunt used to live in Torrance and she would drive up and meet us in Manhattan for lunch when we would fly into LAX. The entire time I'm worried about getting on the 405 before 3 or otherwise we weren't going to get to Bako until night.
 
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It's amazing how much traffic in LA dictates your schedule and, essentially, your life. My Aunt used to live in Torrance and she would drive up and meet us in Manhattan for lunch when we would fly into LAX. The entire time I'm worried about getting on the 405 before 3 or otherwise we weren't going to get to Bako until night.
Eff the 405. Eff it right in the ass.
I hope to never drive on it again. No matter what direction you are traveling, no matter what time of day/night your lane will be stopped for miles. It’s a law of nature.
 
My brother-in-law is from Olney. His parents still live there...every year he tries to get me to go deer hunting up there on his parents land. The last time I went dove hunting was up there and it was brutally hot at 4:30 a.m......but at least it was a dry heat.
At least deer season is a little later in the year and might be nice enough out. There's no way I'd want to be out hunting when it's already that hot out! The same with fishing - you'd have to get out super early or late to go fishing, otherwise the fish will have retreated to the bottom of the lake to keep from cooking.
 
Eff the 405. Eff it right in the ass.
I hope to never drive on it again. No matter what direction you are traveling, no matter what time of day/night your lane will be stopped for miles. It’s a law of nature.

Fact. We sat on the 405 for 6 hours one evening trying to make it done to Irvine then Lake Elsinor......my wife was about in tears.
 
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Fact. We sat on the 405 for 6 hours one evening trying to make it done to Irvine then Lake Elsinor......my wife was about in tears.
Query: what do you do when you are in bumper to bumper crawling traffic if you have to piss or shit and you're stuck 8 lanes over and are a couple of miles from the nearest exit?
 
If you’re going to Chicago just for a Cubs game, stay away bro. Lmao. Who the hell visits a world class city like Chicago just for a baseball game. For christs sake.
There are a lot of people that just go to Chicago just for sporting events/concerts. Are you saying that if you dont spend time seeing the city, you shouldn't even go?
 
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