It was a factual comparison. You are missing the points time and time again. We like the majority of the Israelis see how terrible and corrupt Bibi is. Knock it off.
Finally...Bibi is being called out...
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I'll take "What Northern's wife says to him everyday as he abuses her" for 500 Alex.
Until this war, I always thought the right were the nut jobs with all the conspiracies, now I see the left is catching up. Our country is screwed.
The people of Israel are talking about him. Hundreds of thousands of them were in the streets protesting him before 10/7. They are incensed now about the decisions he made and the incompetent people he had at key positions.
10/7 is what happens when your leader is making decisions in order to stay out of jail.
Lol JFC. There is numerous reporting and facts on what went wrong leading up to the attack and what was ignored and not done. Also the endless protests since calling for Bibi to resign and all the crimes he's facing. He got back into power to stave all of that off. All of this is facts.
Thank you. Unreal how clueless so many are and immediately play the anti semitism card.
Bibi was happy to, “Mow the grass”, every few years. He allowed Hamas to ascend and consolidate power. They were good to run against. Good to blame and use as a fear tactic.
You're missing the point that you're letting your hatred for trump impact you decision.
I'm not defending Bibi and if he's done something wrong he needs to pay for it. But that doesn't change the facts that hamas/Palestinians invaded Israel and raped/killed Israelis. To say you don't support Israel in this situation is just wrong.
So because of that, you feel hamas should get a pass and not be held responsible? What do you think Israel should do in this situation? What's the plan?
No they do not get a pass but this couldn't be more complex. Thousands of years of this. But your emotional absolutes isn't how to handle things.
Wait a minute, thousands of years? I thought you weren't supporting Israel because of Bibi, has he been around for thousands of years? Help me understand why you're not wanting to support Israel in this war?
I never once said I don't support Israel. A rotten, terrible leader needs to be ousted and then people who actually have Israel and the regions best interests at heart need to lead and find the solutions. I'm mostly here currently. The President has navigated this horrific situation quite well per usual
What conspiracy?
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from
www.timesofisrael.com
Do you support Israel continuing to go after Hamas or should they get out of Gaza now?
Are you suggesting that Israel do nothing until Bibi is replaced?
I'll ask you the same question that Jan Itor asked. Do you support Israel continuing to go after Hamas or should they get out of Gaza now?
I support Israel defending itself and bringing justice to anyone responsible in a reasonable manner but with horrific leadership at the top it drags out this mess further and only worsens it.
You do know that hamas/palestinians are the ones who are holding the hostages and not Israel. It's weird you're blaming Israel. Some of you people are really odd. It's a war zone that was started by the palestinians.
You didn't answer the question, do you think Israel should get out of Gaza immediately?
They should not be occupying it and a 2 state solution must be on the table. Bibbi is corrupt and should not be involved any longer. Hopefully they can oust him sooner than later.
it's funny how you keep repeating how Bibi needs to be removed and yet you never talk about eliminating hamas. Your answer is for Israel to leave Gaza and let hamas continue. There will never be peace as long as hamas is the government in Gaza. They need to be eliminated and then a wait and see what followings after. If you really cared about Israel you would know that a 2 state solution is not possible until Gaza and the palestinians stop their desire to kill all Jews.
I said Hamas needs to be held accountable. They are terrorists. There's no battlefield against terrorists. They are not a state but a terrorist organization. They need to be weeded out and the Palestinians and the PLO or a moderate form of government enacted. So we have you on the record being ok with Bibbi? Since you always rush to assumptions I am assuming this.
Without making any judgments on Israel’s actions to date, I’m curious whether Hamas is more or less popular with Palestinians than it was two months ago?
On one hand, I can see average Palestinians being angry that Hamas has brought this death and destruction down on them. On the other, I can envision that Israel’s actions in recent weeks have created a whole new generation of terrorists.
Correct on all this which is why we are on a thousands of years rinse cycle here.
Doing nothing will just be more of the same. At some point hamas has to be eliminated or the palestinians are going to be terrorists anyway because they'll be part of hamas. Getting rid of hamas is action item 1.
There will be no 2 state solution or peace until Hamas and Netenyahu's government are both removed from power and put in jail for the crimes they've committed.
Funny how you only focus on one side of that equation.
You keep moving the goalposts. I simply said I cannot support a government that is corrupt at the top. Is that a difficult concept for you to understand?
If I had the answer I would be in Sweeden wining a prize. Hamas has to go. So does Bibi
Clearly you never served. Every Palestinian child that loses a parent is your next Hamas member. Bibi doesn't want peace. The Israeli citizens want peace. Hamas needs to go, but you can't wipe them out if you are essentially recruiting another generation by killing indiscriminately
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Bibi is no saint, but what Hamas did was terrible….therefore I 100% believe Israel has a right to defend itself and do what they are doing in Gaza.
Just because Bibi is awful, doesn't mean I should support Hamas…that’s the big problem with the radical left….a lot of them are using Bibi as an excuse to be against Israel. This whole thing has opened my eyes, the radical left sucks as much as the MAGA right.
Just because Bibi is awful, doesn't mean I should support Hamas…that’s the big problem with the radical left….a lot of them are using Bibi as an excuse to be against Israel. This whole thing has opened my eyes, the radical left sucks as much as the MAGA right.
I didn't move the goalpost, I asked what you meant by that statement. I was asking you to define the goalpost.
I'm exactly like you. I used to think I was part of the left but now find the left can be just as bad as the right. I'll have to hover in the middle and try to find someone that I can align with.
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Yeah, I’m fully against MAGA and the GOP in its current form, but I don’t necessarily identify with the left anymore either.
Social policy and even for many fiscal policy’s I am liberal….but I can’t identify with the left’s insistence that Israel is the bad guy in this whole thing….its horrifying.
Who asked you to support Hamas? Black and White rationale
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I see free Palestine stuff coming from all over the left. Yet, Palestine elected Hamas…
Am I against innocent people dying? Yes, absolutely…but much like in Germany in WWII there are unfortunately innocent civilians who get caught up in the war against evil. War sucks, but Israel didn’t start this battle….and they have to finish it to ensure it doesn’t occur again.
Yes and no. If reports are correct, Bibi helped start this.
I agree that Hamas should not be part of any peace process.
Bibi didn't want PLO to get back into power.
I spent a year of my life in the middle east. Nothing is black and white.
