No surprise Gilman #1. Pretty weak weight for B1G.
#2 Peters (UNI)
#10 Lambert
#11 Lizak
#17 Oliver
**Suriano NR - true fresh
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#2 Peters (UNI)
#10 Lambert
#11 Lizak
#17 Oliver
**Suriano NR - true fresh
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Yes, big drop off in B1G competition. Expect Gilman to TF/Fall his way through the B1G schedule.
Gilman is going to score some serious bonus points at nationals. Not a very good weight
Gilman was the 9th highest scoring individual in 2016 at the NCAA tournament. He out scored champions Megaludis and Myles Martin (tied for 10th) and Heil was 14th. Nolf scored a half point more (7th) and was the only runner-up to outscore Gilman
Dance makes me nervous. I know Gilman beat him the last time they met, but he still makes me nervous. Other than that, I can't wait to see Gilman annihilate his competition this year.
Dance can't seem to put a good tournament together in March I wouldn't be too worried in the post season about him. However I believe eyes should be on penn states 125. He'll definitely wrestle all these top guys tough
Each year there are freshmen busting things up at 125 - McD, A. Long, Megaludis, Delgado, Garrett, Dance, Moisey, etc. I expect to see one or two this year. But Gilman's healthy and ready so he can do it if he doesn't get too tight when he hits the semis.
I see fresh Suriano and Mueller making some noise, not sure what others are going to get to go.
You must've used my interactive bracket...
Top 20 Individual Leaders
1 (1) Zain Retherford (PSU) Penn State 28.5 149
2 (1) Alex Dieringer (OKST) Oklahoma State 25 165
3 (2) J'Den Cox (MIZZ) Missouri 25 197
4 (2) Kyle Snyder (OHST) Ohio State 24.5 285
5 (1) Nahshon Garrett (CORN) Cornell 24 133
6 (1) Isaiah Martinez (ILL) Illinois 22.5 157
7 (3) Jason Nolf (PSU) Penn State 22 157
8 (1) Gabriel Dean (CORN) Cornell 22 184
9 (4) Thomas Gilman (IOWA) Iowa 21.5 125
10 (3) Nico Megaludis (PSU) Penn State 21 125
11 (11) Myles Martin (OHST) Ohio State 21 174
12 (8) Zach Epperly (VT) Virginia Tech 20.5 174
13 (5) Adam Coon (MICH) Michigan 20.5 285
14 (1) Dean Heil (OKST) Oklahoma State 20 141
15 (1) Morgan McIntosh (PSU) Penn State 20 197
16 Casey Kent (PENN) Pennsylvania 19.5 174
17 (1) Nick Gwiazdowski (NCST) North Carolina State 19.5 285
18 (2) Isaac Jordan (WISC) Wisconsin 18 165
19 (1) Bo Nickal (PSU) Penn State 18 174
20 (7) Timothy Dudley (NEB) Nebraska 18 184
You must've used my interactive bracket...
Top 20 Individual Leaders
1 (1) Zain Retherford (PSU) Penn State 28.5 149
2 (1) Alex Dieringer (OKST) Oklahoma State 25 165
3 (2) J'Den Cox (MIZZ) Missouri 25 197
4 (2) Kyle Snyder (OHST) Ohio State 24.5 285
5 (1) Nahshon Garrett (CORN) Cornell 24 133
6 (1) Isaiah Martinez (ILL) Illinois 22.5 157
7 (3) Jason Nolf (PSU) Penn State 22 157
8 (1) Gabriel Dean (CORN) Cornell 22 184
9 (4) Thomas Gilman (IOWA) Iowa 21.5 125
10 (3) Nico Megaludis (PSU) Penn State 21 125
11 (11) Myles Martin (OHST) Ohio State 21 174
12 (8) Zach Epperly (VT) Virginia Tech 20.5 174
13 (5) Adam Coon (MICH) Michigan 20.5 285
14 (1) Dean Heil (OKST) Oklahoma State 20 141
15 (1) Morgan McIntosh (PSU) Penn State 20 197
16 Casey Kent (PENN) Pennsylvania 19.5 174
17 (1) Nick Gwiazdowski (NCST) North Carolina State 19.5 285
18 (2) Isaac Jordan (WISC) Wisconsin 18 165
19 (1) Bo Nickal (PSU) Penn State 18 174
20 (7) Timothy Dudley (NEB) Nebraska 18 184
The list certainly reveals the importance of bonus points toward chasing a team title. Iowa had two additional runnerups in Clark and Sorensen, neither of whom cracked the top 20 in total points. Each finished with 17 team points, on the strength of a MD for each, the rest decisions.
It was pretty glaring reading that top 20 list. We probably need 5 of Gilman, Clark, Sorensen, Kem, Bull, Meyer, Brooks, and Stoll on that list.
Suriano is the guy that will burst on the scene at 125 this year. Gilman / Suriano could very well hit 3 times this year. I'm looking forward to seeing Gilman go all big brother and face-mushing lil' Nicky this year.
It's his senior year. Gotta set the bar high!
Pins happen to the best of them, so I'd never say never on a pin. That said, I'd be surprised if Suriano gave up a pin. As for a major, I'd give 20% odds on Gilman getting one. 0% chance on a TF. I'd further say that Gilman has a 95% chance of winning all matches against Nick this year, but it isn't 100% in my mind.
Gilman is my favorite Hawk wrestler, and will likely be in the running for most dominant this year, but it is unlikely that Suriano helps him get that award. His defense is just too strong. Think Mega.
Ramos got pinned his senior year, so did Brewer...it happens
In short, because I think Suriano is going to be good. Not great, but good. Little doubt in my mind that Thomas will handle him but I think a pin/TF, though always possible, is unlikely.
At worse, Suriano will be a top-20 wrestler next year. How many top-20 guys has Gilman tech'd? How many top-20 guys ever get tech'd?
Plus, Suriano is a defensive wrestler. It's hard to rack-up a lot of points on a quality, defensive wrestler. I think it's reasonable to say it would be shocking if Suriano got tech'd by anybody next year.
Here's Gilman's wins vs Top 20(21) wrestlers last year
2016
Klimara #8 - MD
Lambert #16 - MD x2
Youtsey #21 - MD
Milhoff #9 - MD
Tomasello #2 Fall
Yep, very impressive. But no tech's. I would be far less surprised if Gilman got a fall than a tech. You can pin a guy in a close match (see Tomasello), but to tech them you have to just completely dominate them.
I completely agree with you, much more impressive to Tech a guy than to pin him in my opinion.
I'm not arguing that he'll tech top 15 guys, just providing some results from last season.
I'm not arguing that he'll tech top 15 guys, just providing some results from last season.
While I agree with you on everything in this post, IMO it's Zain's to lose this year. Damnit, just after typing that, I think Nolf has a shot too...
I guess here's my order as of today:
Zain
Nolf
Snyder (if he wrestles a full season, which I HIGHLY doubt)
Gilman
IMAR - too tough of weight class for him to be on the dominant list
.......
the rest
I agree with you that it's Zain's to lose this year. Just so damn dominant. I love watching him wrestle, just hate seeing him in that singlet. Here's my list...
Retherford
Nolf
IMar - he'll the toughest weight but won't be as dominant Retherford/Nolf
Gilman
Snyder - not enough matches, not enough pins (only has 1 in career)
Kem and JoJo are both going to take him out.
You meant the only one that stayed with him is at 165. His only other non-bonus - Nick Brascetta in the 2nd match of the year and Smith 7-3 at the Scuffle. He also majored Smith at NCAAs.
Neither of the two regular decisions were particularly close. Imar is the only one that stayed with him.
One wrestles him daily and the other one read the tea leaves and bumped up to 65
Since when did Iowa legalize the reefer?
I don't think that Joe Smith ever beats Nolf but that first match was close. It was 5-3 late with Smith pressing the action. The only reason Nolf got his last takedown is because Smith was over aggressive going for the the tying takedown.
