“It”?? That’s correct. It’s a pecan sized shrimp at 6 weeks.
Florida 6 week abortion ban
- Thread starter bcherod
- Start date
That has nothing at all to do with the fact that he spent a significant amount of State tax dollars to help prevent the passage of two proposals that were very popular with voters.
Careful, the “F Your Feelings” crowd gets very upset if you point out how monumentally stupid they are. They can dish it out but they are much too soft to take it
I know several who do and that will only go up, most likely, as women become more and more the majority of college grads. It’s a math equation that factors income, custody split, etc. If it’s a pretty 50-50 split and she makes more than he does, she’ll be paying.
That says a lot about the women you know. Lmao
Dehumanization is critical if you want to make people feel better about killing.
We all started as a single cell, but when were we anything less than human?
Both instances cited in this thread are, under existing Florida law, are legal justification for the killing of an unborn child.
Self defense is the moral case for killing another human. Trying to define them as subhuman is not.
You can certainly have that opinion. If you are against termination of pregnancy then don’t terminate your next pregnancy. It’s your business and no one else’s.
Google says 84 out of 100 parents who pay child support are men… so I guess it happens
Abortion has no place in politics.
Men should not make decisions for women.
Women are not chattel. They are equal human beings.
Is your little boy better than your little girl? Are they equal or do you favor the male?
Do you give your daughter the same rights as you give your son?
Stop. Someone take away your shovel.
That’s the whole point, it does happen….and I’d bet 10-15 years ago, it would have been 94 of 100 and 30 years ago 97 of 100.
It's a biological fact.
To consider it anything but human is an opinion.
I'm against anyone killing you, even if your wannabe murderer says I should mind my own business.
We protect human life with the law, and we make the law based on politics.
They have the same right to kill another human, self defense.
What other justification is there?
You should try drinking baby blood. It's what got Adam Woodbury over the rim.
Abortion has no place in society. (elective abortion is different than a medically necessary procedure)
Women should be responsible for the decisions they make.
Who said women are chattel? I feel like you're projecting some inner feelings you have.
Boys and girls are different. They're different biologically, emotionally, physically, That's just simple kindergarten science.
My children's rights are derived from God, not from me.
I'm pretty surprised at your desire to kill the babies. I wouldn't have taken you for a baby murderer, but it's none of my business, so just keep vacuuming those babies out of the womb.
Amendments on state ballots are generally under publicized and often poorly written. At least in VA.
About 8-10 years ago I didn't know one would be on there, read it about 3 times, thought I had it figured out but just left it blank because I wasn't 100% certain what I was voting for (or the implications which is really the important part).
About 8-10 years ago I didn't know one would be on there, read it about 3 times, thought I had it figured out but just left it blank because I wasn't 100% certain what I was voting for (or the implications which is really the important part).
Just out of curiosity…because I don’t want to look it up…what are the penalties for a doctor who performs an “unneeded” abortion?
Enjoy it folks. He’s giving us comedy at 4:50 in the morning!
So you should be against ALL abortions regardless of cause or effect. Self-defense only applies when someone is - with intent - trying to kill you. That wouldn’t apply to a fetus. A human who has implanted in the fallopian tube deserves a chance to be born…miracles happen, right? A ten-year-old girl might be physically capable of carrying her father’s baby to term so you must demand that it happens. Your daughter was raped and became pregnant - guess she’s gonna be a mommy regardless of her own plans.
Here’s a thought…don’t opine on issues where you are profoundly ignorant. Which, honestly, would be just about everything.
Young children (teens) required to carry a pregnancy to term end up having serious pregnancy complications, like vaginal fistulas, etc.
Those can be pretty common in countries like Saudi Arabia, where women have no rights and are married off "early" as young teens.
You can Google that if you want.
Sure…but not always. She might be capable so no abortion for her!!!
Your limited and very old line of attack merely betrays your limited intellect.
One hopes you have had the old snipperoonie. Society would be ever so grateful.
You must be the President of the Pump and Dump Club.
Women are (solely) responsible? Hopefully they are responsible enough to tell you NO.
In Florida a person can use deadly force if they reasonably believe it's necessary to prevent imminent death, great bodily harm, or a forcible felony.
Intent isn't in the law, you made that up.
If you didn't make it up please cite the relevant statute.
I'll wait.
Look it up while you're finding the cite in the law about 'intent' regarding self defense.
I know you're not just on here spreading bullshit, you'll have a citation to back up what you said.
Right?
The official reason is that the ads they ran were announcements and advertisements related to public health issues. They are legal because nobody in state government position has the nads to oppose him.
776.012 Use or threatened use of force in defense of person.—
(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.
(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.
Now feel free to weasel around and say you can kill anyone you wish because you consider them an imminent threat...but that's not likely to hold up in court without presenting some evidence that the person intends to cause harm. By your rather lax standard, a woman could kill a doctor for withholding treatment she reasonably believes is necessary to "prevent imminent death or great bodily harm". Hell, during covid it could have been open season on the maskless under your "interpretation".
The fetus isn't actively doing ANYTHING to threaten the woman. It's just in a bad spot. And you're going to kill a "human" for that? F'n monster...that's what you are...right?
Sure. A woman waited forty hours for the medical attention necessary to save her life but that damn baby just wouldn't die on it's on. By the time it did, she had sepsis, and she died. Cool "exception" you've got there.
Bad at logic, huh?
Do you need me to explain how that ‘or’ functions?
The first condition is already satisfied, and only one needs to be in order to make the killing lawful.
Growing in the ‘bad spot’ is the threat to the life or health of the mother, isn’t it?
Only in a few places.
More and more Red states are kicking those to the curb.
And you seem to enjoy defending that.
