So if you deem that a human, through absolutely no fault of their own, is a threat to your safety...you have free reign to kill them? Interesting.
Florida 6 week abortion ban
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I had a pregnancy growing in a “bad spot” and came very close to death.
The “miracle” that happened after with half of my “equipment” blown up was my healthy beautiful little girl born two years after my ruptured ectopic.
When you have an ectopic you may not show ANY signs you’re pregnant, and a six weeks limit is meaningless.
The “miracle” that happened after with half of my “equipment” blown up was my healthy beautiful little girl born two years after my ruptured ectopic.
When you have an ectopic you may not show ANY signs you’re pregnant, and a six weeks limit is meaningless.
Serious complications can occur at any point in a pregnancy.
And people should not be required to "take on risk" they do not want to.
Particularly people who have other children at home to take care of and many not want to risk leaving them orphans.
But that is what the Party of Less Government wants control over...
“Reasonably believes” is what the law says.
Glad I could help clear up your misunderstanding of the law.
Actually, it does, until the mother's health is impacted.
The case in all too many pregnancy complications and miscarriages.
If someone straddles you and starts smashing your head into the concrete sidewalk it's reasonable to believe you're under threat of serious bodily harm.
Jury understood this.
The average American has a 6th grade reading level.
Imagine that half of everyone in traffic reads at a lower level.
...and is trying to read and text on their phone while in traffic, reading at that 6th-grade or worse level...
But there are some total ban states where the laws are poorly written and causing concern WRT ectopic pregnancies.
Sounds like an excellent reason to dismantle the Department of Education.
Has Trump announced which Republican Wrecker he'll appoint to do that?
Good story. Would never have known that you came thru that path safely. We did as well, with two healthy kids born in later years.
Cheers to y’all.
Texas and Georgia, for two.
Women miscarrying have died in both states, due to delayed care requirement/abortion bans.
You can Google their names up, if you want to learn about who they were.
But you won't, because you don't give a shit. You just want to pretend all the babies will die, otherwise.
Hmmm... I think you're full of shit as usual:
Georgia's abortion law bans abortion after the detection of embryonic cardiac activity, which is usually around six weeks into a pregnancy:
- When abortion is permitted
Abortion is permitted in the following circumstances:- In the case of rape or incest, and the probable gestational age of the unborn child is 20 weeks or less
- In the event of a medical emergency
- In cases where a Maternal Fetal Health Specialist provides a statement that the fetus has a profound congenital or chromosomal anomaly that is incompatible with sustaining life
This is the POINT, dipshit.
Women want to eliminate their risks BEFORE a "medical emergency". It's literally why the woman in Texas was denied care at 2 Emergency Rooms, before she was finally "critical" and admitted to the third one. She died, anyway, because by the time the fetal heartbeat ceased, she was septic.
Additionally, there are non-genetic reasons a fetus is non-viable, even though the baby can be entirely normal. Requiring an abortion to protect the health of the mother. Placental anomalies (which are NOT "profound congenital or chromosomal anomalies") occur, including placental insufficiency. Which means the fetus will not survive to term, and the woman WILL end up septic when it starts to die and decay.
Ob Gyns can probably list a dozen more abnormalities that are "outside" the language you'd posted, which was written up by a bunch of old white men with the medically equivalent education of a 7th grader.
Awesome. So any woman who "reasonably believes" a pregnancy could threaten her safety can get an abortion. Except that's NOT the standard, is it? It may not "reasonably" threaten her safety when someone else applies that standard. In that case...no abortion. It's NOT her choice. Her "reasonable belief" has NOT ONE THING to do with what happens to her. So it's not "self defense at all, is it?
And THAT'S how you get Josseli Barrica dying in TX. As long as that baby's heart was beating, its "life" took precedence over hers. So she suffered for forty hours and died from sepsis thanks to assholes telling women they knew better. And then they had the f'n gall to call her death "natural".
To put that in a perspective you might begin to comprehend, that's like you being in fear for your life from an assailant and being forced to wait for two LEOs to render an affirmative opinion before a third will act on your behalf to protect you. And if they determine you're not in imminent danger, wait until you're shot, and you're killed...well, that's just another "natural" death.
Kate Cox had a fetus with trisomy-18. A fetus with this condition will most often die in utero and if it survives to term has less than a 10% chance of surviving its first year. Regardless, it will be profoundly disabled. A woman carrying a T-18 fetus has a higher risk for gestational diabetes, a much higher risk for preterm delivery, and a much higher risk for cesarean delivery. All of those threaten the mother's health. Texas has an "exception" to protect the health and safety of the mother. The TX Supreme Court ruled that it didn't apply to Cox. There wasn't enough of a threat.
Except those women CHOSE to get abortions (regardless as to whether they had a pregnancy complication, or not). They were not FORCED to get abortions.
Get it now?
You quoted this earlier, but clearly can't comprehend it:
The two-physician requirement is waived in the case of an emergency medical procedure. § 390.0111(1)(b), Fla. Stat.
Sometimes docs mess up:
In all, an estimated 795,000 patients a year die or are permanently disabled because of misdiagnosis, according to a study published in July in the BMJ Quality & Safety periodical.
You don't know a lot of things, yet you freely opine on them.
Maybe shut up about things you don't understand.
Yep! Tarheel and Joe would have us closing all hospitals because of it. Unless they are hypocrites of course.
Georgia's law, like those in other states that permit such "exceptions," highlights the hypocrisy of opposing abortion while simultaneously acknowledging support for it under specific circumstances.
It is called being a hypocrite if you believe killing a baby is ok, sometimes.
Either abortion is killing a baby, or it is not; if you allow for exceptions, you are a hypocrite.
Oh sure sure. If the train is going to run over one person on one track or 10 people on another track, which track do you send the train down?
For accuracy, you should admit you are pro-abortion rather than hiding behind being a hypocrite who is against abortion.
Just admit you want women to understand when you feel it is to kill the baby.
Just declare the people on one track subhuman.
Problem no longer exists if you convince yourself of that.
It took a hell of a lot of women voting to get us to these abortion bans. They wanted to restrict their own reproductive rights and they got it.
lol…and who gets to determine if it’s an emergency? The woman? In the case of my analogy, you have to wait for someone else to decide FOR YOU whether this person is a threat or not. Someone in front of you with a gun is determined to not be a threat because they aren’t pointing the gun directly at you. So - sorry - nothing can be done. Think about how you would feel and at least try to understand that’s how women feel.
Again…pay very close attention here…the woman has no choice anywhere along the line to determine her own fate. Kate Cox had no say. Josseli Barnica had no say.
They already had the ability to “restrict their own reproductive rights”. It’s called having a choice. They wanted to restrict the rights of OTHERS and they got it.
Yes Joe we know you like injecting people with poison and killing babies, your parents must be so proud of you
Oh no you don’t get on demand baby murder in all 50 states?! That’s just terrible
