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Florida people, tell me if this anti woke stuff is for real.

So it’s wrong to teach about the harsh conditions that their ancestors went through in other countries. Remember we are teaching history here and is there any evidence at all that they did not teach about the horrible slave issue in the United Stares?

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Why would you teach about slavery in Brazil in an African American studies program? Other than to diminish slavery in the United States.

Why would you teach about the Barbary pirates enslaving white people in an African American studies program?

Why would you teach about slavery in Asia in an African American studies program? Or the caste system?

Whataboutisms are their bread and butter
 
I literally just told you and you even agreed.

Then you ask the same question again. Are you on drugs?
You did not.

You pointed out the standard about slavery benefitting slaves which I agreed with you that that specific standard should not be in the standards.

I was pointing to all the other leftists in this thread who are saying RDS is pro slavery and the new standards don’t point out the horrors of slavery. That is completely false and is only be used as a political talking point out of the Team Blue playbook. These were written by African American scholars. Take it up with them if you think they are pro slavery.

Don’t be a partisan ideologue. You are better than the usual leftists on here in that regard.
 
You did not.

You pointed out the standard about slavery benefitting slaves which I agreed with you that that specific standard should not be in the standards.

I was pointing to all the other leftists in this thread who are saying RDS is pro slavery and the new standards don’t point out the horrors of slavery. That is completely false and is only be used as a political talking point out of the Team Blue playbook. These were written by African American scholars. Take it up with them if you think they are pro slavery.

Don’t be a partisan ideologue. You are better than the usual leftists on here in that regard.
Like I said in my post, they left themselves open for interpretation by not giving context. When you do that, you give room for people to basically fill in the blank or imply their own interpretation. There was no need for this at all.
 
Like I said in my post, they left themselves open for interpretation by not giving context. When you do that, you give room for people to basically fill in the blank or imply their own interpretation. There was no need for this at all.
Did you read the other 200 pages of the manuscript?
 
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Whatever Kevin Kruse says should be taken with a grain of salt. He is a political ideologue first, historian second much like Michael Beschloss on MSNBC. When you quote either of them or Kurt Eichenwald it doesn’t strengthen your argument.

The Pope could say the exact same things that Kruse and you'd find a way to discredit it.
 

So he was on the US commission of Civil Rights, what a pickle the left has gotten themselves into
No way. I was led to believe RDS wrote these standards and they only glorified the South and the institution of slavery. You are telling me Team Blue members lied in this thread when they continuously posted far left Twitter feeds?I am shocked.
 
I have thought about the anti-woke movement. They need a name. I propose that it is the "Sleeping In" movement.
 
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This has nothing to do with truth. We already learned that slaves did jobs and performed work utilizing or enhancing their skills. This is emphasizing that slaves learned skills because of slavery and partially implies there was a "pro" to slavery.

You say pro, I say blacks that were former slaves were resilient. Resilient that they bounced back and used something terrible that happened to them and used it to their benefit. Then again, some people love to tell others how they should feel.
 
This has nothing to do with truth. We already learned that slaves did jobs and performed work utilizing or enhancing their skills. This is emphasizing that slaves learned skills because of slavery and partially implies there was a "pro" to slavery.
Again…a small footnote amongst 200 pages is emphasizing and is somehow pro slavery?
 
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Again…a small footnote amongst 200 pages is emphasizing and is somehow pro slavery?

Saying there were pros to slavery vs being pro slavery. There's a substantial difference between the two.

What Desantis appears to be doing is rewriting history lessons to diminish the evils and point out the supposed benefits of slavery. Similar to rewriting the Rosa Parks story.
 
Saying there were pros to slavery vs being pro slavery. There's a substantial difference between the two.

What Desantis appears to be doing is rewriting history lessons to diminish the evils and point out the supposed benefits of slavery. Similar to rewriting the Rosa Parks story.
Desantis didn’t write it, a black person who was on the United States commission of civil rights whose ancestors were slaves wrote it
 
Sorry implies, if you are downplaying it then why so upset?
You missed it again. I forgot who I was posting to so let me explain.

This "teaching" implies that there something good that came from slavery. Meaning the slaves learned a valuable skill. Nothing good came from slavery, imo. It doesn't mean it's pro slavery, it means there was a pro from slavery. Big difference but nuanced. So, of course you didn't get it.
 
You missed it again. I forgot who I was posting to so let me explain.

This "teaching" implies that there something good that came from slavery. Meaning the slaves learned a valuable skill. Nothing good came from slavery, imo. It doesn't mean it's pro slavery, it means there was a pro from slavery. Big difference but nuanced. So, of course you didn't get it.
Well I am going to agree with the co author who offered this:

Williams told ABC, “It is the case that Africans proved resourceful, resilient and adaptive and were able to develop skills and aptitudes which served to their benefit, both while enslaved and after enslaved.”

He and another member of the working group, Dr. Frances Rice, added in a joint statement: “Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.
 
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You missed it again. I forgot who I was posting to so let me explain.

This "teaching" implies that there something good that came from slavery. Meaning the slaves learned a valuable skill. Nothing good came from slavery, imo. It doesn't mean it's pro slavery, it means there was a pro from slavery. Big difference but nuanced. So, of course you didn't get it.
That is not how it is being packaged by the main stream media or the Vice President.
 
You missed it again. I forgot who I was posting to so let me explain.

This "teaching" implies that there something good that came from slavery. Meaning the slaves learned a valuable skill. Nothing good came from slavery, imo. It doesn't mean it's pro slavery, it means there was a pro from slavery. Big difference but nuanced. So, of course you didn't get it.
A smug liberal, who would have guessed it.
 
Well I am going to agree with the co author who offered this:

Williams told ABC, “It is the case that Africans proved resourceful, resilient and adaptive and were able to develop skills and aptitudes which served to their benefit, both while enslaved and after enslaved.”

He and another member of the working group, Dr. Frances Rice, added in a joint statement: “Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.

Frances Rice is hardly an objective “historian”.

 
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“It is the case that Africans proved resourceful, resilient and adaptive and were able to develop skills and aptitudes which served to their benefit, both while enslaved and after enslaved.”
No one is doubting that.

My gosh, you are not able to comprehend nuanced thoughts.
 
You say pro, I say blacks that were former slaves were resilient. Resilient that they bounced back and used something terrible that happened to them and used it to their benefit. Then again, some people love to tell others how they should feel.
Not sure how you can make a blanket statement like that. They outlawed the importation of new slaves from Africa in 1608 so for over 50 years there was widespread breeding and raping of the women by their masters to get the numbers they needed

I'm guessing plenty of them who endured that and their children being sold off were broken and never recovered to go along with the super resilient ones. Their men who had to watch it happen too. Don't think it was a one size fits all in any way
 
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