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As fatalities from the virus continue to increase daily, never in recent historical memory has there been a more unsettling display of Florida government’s dark impulses to conceal the truth from its own citizens. Citizens should be outraged.

The state of Florida is hiding information about coronavirus deaths from citizens. Under the direction of Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health (DOH), the state has consistently refused to inform the public about deaths and infections in Florida nursing homes, prisons and now, coronavirus deaths as documented by public medical examiners.

Crucial reporting from the Miami Herald last week detailed the state of Florida's decision to blackout large swaths of public information from data sheets about statewide deaths due to coronavirus.

Barbara Petersen, president emeritus of the First Amendment Foundation, told the Herald, "For whatever reason, our governor is trying to hide information — first about nursing homes, and now from medical examiners. They are trying to paint a rosy picture by refusing to provide us accurate information that allows us to make informed decisions about the health and safety of our families."

The public data is crucial in the midst of this crisis, in part because death and illness reporting from multiple state organizations does not match up. The Herald explained that death counts from the FDLE don't align with reported fatalities from the Health Department.

And as recently as a month ago, death counts from the medical examiners were about 10% higher than figures released by the DOH.

The most recent records in question were previously being released by the Medical Examiners Commission until the DeSantis administration ordered them to stop and redact certain information about the deaths
.

This is DeSantis' dark pattern: Citizens are facing a health crisis and the governor tries to prevent them from seeing the truth.

In the midst of outbreaks at elder-care centers and nursing homes, DeSantis sought to shield the names of the facilities from citizens whose family members might be at risk inside.

The Florida Dept. of Corrections (DOC) hid the numbers of cases at state prisons for weeks.

And as noted by the Herald, the DeSantis administration is still hiding information about the backlog of testing results from private labs, which are handling 90% of all testing in the state.

This defiance of transparency in a state of emergency is inexcusable. Florida governors of every political party have shown far more commitment to public safety and the basic right to know during times of statewide crisis. It's a fundamental value that would undoubtedly be upheld by Republican governors like Jeb Bush and Bob Martinez, just as well as Democrats such as Reubin Askew and Bob Graham.

Why DeSantis has been dead set on concealing the truth from you in this moment of crisis defies understanding.

Our news organizations have once again committed to file suit for the public information on your behalf — on behalf of truth, transparency and public safety.

We strongly encourage citizens of all political parties to contact the governor's office as well as your state legislators and condemn the state's ongoing attack on your right to essential public health information.
 
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https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opini...n-covid-19-deaths-from-public?template=ampart

As fatalities from the virus continue to increase daily, never in recent historical memory has there been a more unsettling display of Florida government’s dark impulses to conceal the truth from its own citizens. Citizens should be outraged.

The state of Florida is hiding information about coronavirus deaths from citizens. Under the direction of Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health (DOH), the state has consistently refused to inform the public about deaths and infections in Florida nursing homes, prisons and now, coronavirus deaths as documented by public medical examiners.

Crucial reporting from the Miami Herald last week detailed the state of Florida's decision to blackout large swaths of public information from data sheets about statewide deaths due to coronavirus.

Barbara Petersen, president emeritus of the First Amendment Foundation, told the Herald, "For whatever reason, our governor is trying to hide information — first about nursing homes, and now from medical examiners. They are trying to paint a rosy picture by refusing to provide us accurate information that allows us to make informed decisions about the health and safety of our families."

The public data is crucial in the midst of this crisis, in part because death and illness reporting from multiple state organizations does not match up. The Herald explained that death counts from the FDLE don't align with reported fatalities from the Health Department.

And as recently as a month ago, death counts from the medical examiners were about 10% higher than figures released by the DOH.

The most recent records in question were previously being released by the Medical Examiners Commission until the DeSantis administration ordered them to stop and redact certain information about the deaths
.

This is DeSantis' dark pattern: Citizens are facing a health crisis and the governor tries to prevent them from seeing the truth.

In the midst of outbreaks at elder-care centers and nursing homes, DeSantis sought to shield the names of the facilities from citizens whose family members might be at risk inside.

The Florida Dept. of Corrections (DOC) hid the numbers of cases at state prisons for weeks.

And as noted by the Herald, the DeSantis administration is still hiding information about the backlog of testing results from private labs, which are handling 90% of all testing in the state.

This defiance of transparency in a state of emergency is inexcusable. Florida governors of every political party have shown far more commitment to public safety and the basic right to know during times of statewide crisis. It's a fundamental value that would undoubtedly be upheld by Republican governors like Jeb Bush and Bob Martinez, just as well as Democrats such as Reubin Askew and Bob Graham.

Why DeSantis has been dead set on concealing the truth from you in this moment of crisis defies understanding.

Our news organizations have once again committed to file suit for the public information on your behalf — on behalf of truth, transparency and public safety.

We strongly encourage citizens of all political parties to contact the governor's office as well as your state legislators and condemn the state's ongoing attack on your right to essential public health information.
Earlier in this thread we were told how lucky we are to have DeSantis as our governor.
 
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Earlier in this thread we were told how lucky we are to have DeSantis as our governor.

I would go the the state's websites that I linked somewhere today before getting on board with that article. At least one of the state sites breaks down the numbers by long term care, and prisons.

There's no way to know for sure if any of the numbers are accurate. That said, there's no real evidence they aren't. Reporters say it, without any basis, and all of a sudden people are taking it as fact.
 
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And as noted by the Herald, the DeSantis administration is still hiding information about the backlog of testing results from private labs, which are handling 90% of all testing in the state.

Do you think they're hiding all the positives in the backlog or something?
And how is DeSantis hiding information he doesn't even have?
For the handful of state labs they control the data entry on the samples, so they know what is pending, but we don't have access to the lab data systems used at the dozens and dozens of private labs that are doing the bulk of the testing.
If we hired some people to gather and collate this data, what do you think we'd gain?
How many weeks does this 'backlog' concern hold water?

Florida testing results have gone from 429,170 to 717,162 in the last two weeks.

Overall positive rate keeps declining.

Oh, and at least two data panes in the DOH COVID dashboard are currently broken :)

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It's also possible she screwed up some updates and broke the site for a while and they got someone else with even more experience to handle the project and she's bitter.
I'd love to see her interviewed. Every email she sent or received is public record.
But the conspiracy theorists need to flesh out their theory some so we can prove or falsify it.
A member of my staff had been tinkering with his own COVID dashboard, but he was using either CDC or John Hopkins data. I'll have him reach out to Disease Control and ask what datasets were the source for Jones' dashboard.
There no conspiracy. She is no longer on the project, she said it wasn’t voluntary, and the site wasn’t running as well afterwards. She said she left because she was asked to change data. That’s not a conspiracy. That’s just Florida being Florida.

BTW, I run ArcGIS sites too.
 
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https://www.palmbeachpost.com/opini...n-covid-19-deaths-from-public?template=ampart

As fatalities from the virus continue to increase daily, never in recent historical memory has there been a more unsettling display of Florida government’s dark impulses to conceal the truth from its own citizens. Citizens should be outraged.

The state of Florida is hiding information about coronavirus deaths from citizens. Under the direction of Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health (DOH), the state has consistently refused to inform the public about deaths and infections in Florida nursing homes, prisons and now, coronavirus deaths as documented by public medical examiners.

Crucial reporting from the Miami Herald last week detailed the state of Florida's decision to blackout large swaths of public information from data sheets about statewide deaths due to coronavirus.

Barbara Petersen, president emeritus of the First Amendment Foundation, told the Herald, "For whatever reason, our governor is trying to hide information — first about nursing homes, and now from medical examiners. They are trying to paint a rosy picture by refusing to provide us accurate information that allows us to make informed decisions about the health and safety of our families."

The public data is crucial in the midst of this crisis, in part because death and illness reporting from multiple state organizations does not match up. The Herald explained that death counts from the FDLE don't align with reported fatalities from the Health Department.

And as recently as a month ago, death counts from the medical examiners were about 10% higher than figures released by the DOH.

The most recent records in question were previously being released by the Medical Examiners Commission until the DeSantis administration ordered them to stop and redact certain information about the deaths
.

This is DeSantis' dark pattern: Citizens are facing a health crisis and the governor tries to prevent them from seeing the truth.

In the midst of outbreaks at elder-care centers and nursing homes, DeSantis sought to shield the names of the facilities from citizens whose family members might be at risk inside.

The Florida Dept. of Corrections (DOC) hid the numbers of cases at state prisons for weeks.

And as noted by the Herald, the DeSantis administration is still hiding information about the backlog of testing results from private labs, which are handling 90% of all testing in the state.

This defiance of transparency in a state of emergency is inexcusable. Florida governors of every political party have shown far more commitment to public safety and the basic right to know during times of statewide crisis. It's a fundamental value that would undoubtedly be upheld by Republican governors like Jeb Bush and Bob Martinez, just as well as Democrats such as Reubin Askew and Bob Graham.

Why DeSantis has been dead set on concealing the truth from you in this moment of crisis defies understanding.

Our news organizations have once again committed to file suit for the public information on your behalf — on behalf of truth, transparency and public safety.

We strongly encourage citizens of all political parties to contact the governor's office as well as your state legislators and condemn the state's ongoing attack on your right to essential public health information.
2 more weeks!
 
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You know the Dems had a simple solution to all of this. They could have nominated Gwen Graham. Instead, they nominated Andrew Gillum. Good job, guys.
I see you this, and raise you not stopping Joe Biden from running against Hillary in 2016.
 
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There no conspiracy. She is no longer on the project, she said it wasn’t voluntary, and the site wasn’t running as well afterwards. She said she left because she was asked to change data. That’s not a conspiracy. That’s just Florida being Florida.

It will requires actors conducting a secret and unlawful plan to hide deaths from the public in the Florida.

Here's what I've found so far regarding specifics of what Jones was asked to change:

"According to internal emails reviewed by the Times, Department of Health I.T. Director Craig Curry emailed Rebekah Jones just before 5 p.m. on May 5. He cited Dr. Carina Blackmore, Director for the Division of Disease Control and Health Protection.

“Per Dr. Blackmore, disable the ability to export the data to files from the dashboard immediately. We need to ensure that dates (date fields) in all objects match their counterpart on the PDF line list published,” Curry wrote.

The tables in the PDF documents did not include the column of data showing when symptoms were first reported, only the “Case Date” — the date the state recorded and confirmed the case."


I went ahead and downloaded what they have posted online.

Let's help Tribe build his case.
Here are the deaths listed in the table:

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It will requires actors conducting a secret and unlawful plan to hide deaths from the public in the Florida.

Here's what I've found so far regarding specifics of what Jones was asked to change:

"According to internal emails reviewed by the Times, Department of Health I.T. Director Craig Curry emailed Rebekah Jones just before 5 p.m. on May 5. He cited Dr. Carina Blackmore, Director for the Division of Disease Control and Health Protection.

“Per Dr. Blackmore, disable the ability to export the data to files from the dashboard immediately. We need to ensure that dates (date fields) in all objects match their counterpart on the PDF line list published,” Curry wrote.

The tables in the PDF documents did not include the column of data showing when symptoms were first reported, only the “Case Date” — the date the state recorded and confirmed the case."


I went ahead and downloaded what they have posted online.

Let's help Tribe build his case.
Here are the deaths listed in the table:

2TMIysL.png
Thank you for the info. Hopefully the media will print the truth eventually.
 
There is no scientific or medical evidence to continue the shutdown. Desantis is right here. See the testimony to the US senate last week by Stanford epidemiologists-no medical reason to continue the lockdown. (Dr Atlas)

Meanwhile crazy Kate Brown the Oregon Governor sent CPS to a nail salon owners home because she reopened her business.

Not many blue state govs will be reelected.
Kate Brown took a very volatile situation, with a major city and hub for travel from Asia, and handled it wonderfully. She’s consistently rated in the top 5 of governors in dealing with the virus. We discussed her in the thread on the governors who did best, and Oregonians clearly disagree with you. Sorry to ruin your masterbatory political fantasies.
Newsome, Whitmer, DeWine. You managed to leave off Gov. Kate Brown of Oregon, who I would actually put at #1. Low key style, but she’s done a wonderful job on policy to avoid the spread, and is willing to change her mind and adapt quickly when confronted by a crisis.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/202...wns-leadership-so-far-oregonians-approve.html

Wow. Politico and I were damn near identical with their 1, 2, and 5. Maybe Whitmer and DeWine can be our national unity ticket in 2024. Not only Republicans and Democrats, but Wolverines and Buckeyes! Kate Brown, while most impressive to me, is not as skilled at communicating or at politics as those two.

I live here in Oregon and Kate has done a great job. We're really low in number of cases and she's allowing certain places like where I'm at to slowly open back up this week. FYI I'm in southern Oregon (Medford area) and our county hasn't had a new case in 16 days (49 total with 39 recovered and 4400 negative tests). I own a fly fishing shop and guide service here and am happy to be able to open back up and get back out on the Rogue River asap

This. Oregon did a masterful job, considering the first case was in Washington. They are reopening the state according to government guidelines and are actually paying out unemployment while expanding the Oregon Health plan.

I was working in Portland when this started.

The first 8 people to die in Washington were all in one nursing home. Seattle is also a major international airline hub; with way more overseas traffic than PDX.

It's really amazing to see the difference in stats between Oregon, Washington, and California.
 
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