Former teammate of transgender NCAA champion to speak at UI

[PoopandBoogers]

his twig and giggle berries hanging out

 

[Brian_Fantana]

It's not a problem at all. Let's get real.

It isn’t a “huge” problem, yet, but clearly many women consider it a problem. What #s do you need to see for it to be a huge problem? There are a lot of insecure weirdos out there that may decide winning something is worth pretending to be something they aren’t. Or pretending to be a lady gives them easy access to ladies. Not something I understand; but, I don’t understand a lot of weird shit people do.

I guess with your beliefs, it comes down to whose rights are more protected, and you are choosing and speaking on behalf millions of women who disagree with you. Bravo, way to take a stand

 

[lucas80]

The victimhood grift is powerful

 

[Jerome Silberman]

I wonder if that student group knows that this isn't an issue in Iowa?

 

[alaskanseminole]

Based on what, your feelings?

Many, not all, of the left who post on this forum don't even want to hear what the opposition's opinion is. I get it, I'm a guy, therefore, I don't get a say. So, I asked my LBGTQ-supportive daughters what their thoughts were. Neither support biological males in female sports and neither would feel comfortable with a transgender person in the shower who still had "dude parts."

Revised

 

[Huey Grey]

I've posted countless

You don't think biological men competing in women's sports is a problem?

And don't get cute, the post you responded to didn't include the words damages or court. It was in response to saying supporting this nonsense makes Dems look stupid

It isn't a problem. There are hardly any trans women who do compete. Like you can count the ones people like you blow up over on one hand.

 

[Huey Grey]

Not anti trans, anti weird shit, pro normal

Um, this is being anti trans. You just said they are weird shit and not normal. That is precisely anti trans.

 

[alaskanseminole]

I've posted countless

It isn't a problem. There are hardly any trans women who do compete. Like you can count the ones people like you blow up over on one hand.

So fairness is only based on occurrences?

 

[Brian_Fantana]

The left doesn't even want to hear opposition. Only one side's opinion matters. I get it, I'm a guy, therefore, I don't get a say. So, I asked my LBGTQ-supportive daughters what their thoughts were. Neither support biological males in female sports and neither would feel comfortable with a transgender person in the shower who still had "dude parts."

That’s my point tho. It’s weird it is the guys on the left that are defending this so hard. For some reason, they don’t care about the women it impacts because, in their mind, it shouldn’t be an issue for the ladies. I guess this is one issue it is ok to still speak for a woman on.

 

[Huey Grey]

It is if your daughter is being asked to change in front of a person with a penis.

It is if your daughter would have won a trophy, maybe a chance to compete at a higher level but got beat out by a person that was a man 2 years ago.

This is a problem and Dems are ignoring it to the point where it looks very much like they support this.

Answer the question are you ok with those young women being told they had to share a locker room, change in front of and shower around Lia Thomas a person who very much still resembles a man. Yes or no answer, don't avoid the question by claiming it's not a problem because it very much was a problem for these women. Many of whom, both teammates and opponents alike felt uncomfortable.

These daughters are adults. It's a locker room. It's assumed they will see genitalia. The only problem is that the penis is attached to a trans woman. Rejecting trans women entirely and claiming that they have no right to use locker rooms is discrimination.

 

[Ghee Buttersnaps]

That’s my point tho. It’s the guys on the left that are defending this so hard. For some reason, they don’t care about the women it impacts because, in their mind, it shouldn’t be an issue for the ladies. I guess this is one issue it is ok to still speak for a woman on.

I know a lot of women who are PISSED. This is the basic sentiment, "Men wanted us to stay home--seen but not heard. Couldn't even vote. Then they wanted to control our bodies (abortion rights) and now they just flat out want to take away our achievements in sports!? WTF!?"

 

[Huey Grey]

How come it wasn't ok for Trump to walk through the changing rooms at the Ms America pageant but this is???

I would say in both cases changing in front of a man or "person with a penis" if you prefer might make those young women uncomfortable.

For starters he was walking through a changing room full of underaged girls. These are full grown adults.

 

[Huey Grey]

Dems don’t ignore it. They try and twist it into some anti trans bullshit to intimidate people away from the conversation.

It is about fairness in sports. Most people don’t give two shits if you want to play dress up and prance around.

Want to compete against women or stroll through a female locker room like Trump? Yeah, most normal people have a problem with that.

It's not about fairness. It's about bigotry. There are no studies that can conclusively prove that trans women who have transitioned for two years have any athletic advantage.

 

[Huey Grey]

So flashing is a victimless crime that should be legal? No damages right?

Again, these are locker rooms, not public streets. There is no expectation of seeing naked people in the street. There is every expectation of seeing naked people in locker rooms.

 

[Huey Grey]

Better comparison would be saying that being watched by a peeping tom is a victimless crime.

There is no proof that Thomas was a peeping Tom. You're now making stuff up now, Hooiser. Normally your a good poster. Be better.

 

[Huey Grey]

For a swimmer Lia beat and is pissed off about it, it is a real problem. And it's not for you to tell them it's not.

Despite there being no proof she has an advantage merely because she is trans? How does that work?

 

[Ghee Buttersnaps]

These daughters are adults. It's a locker room. It's assumed they will see genitalia. The only problem is that the penis is attached to a trans woman. Rejecting trans women entirely and claiming that they have no right to use locker rooms is discrimination.

So, if I just decide to walk into LA Fitness Women's locker room, there shouldn't be an issue right? I'm not going to say a word or touch anyone. Just going to mind my bidness with my dick hanging out as I casually stroll on over to the shower.

 

[Ghee Buttersnaps]

Anyone know why this Huey dude hates women?

 

[Huey Grey]

It isn’t a “huge” problem, yet, but clearly many women consider it a problem. What #s do you need to see for it to be a huge problem? There are a lot of insecure weirdos out there that may decide winning something is worth pretending to be something they aren’t. Or pretending to be a lady gives them easy access to ladies. Not something I understand; but, I don’t understand a lot of weird shit people do.

I guess with your beliefs, it comes down to whose rights are more protected, and you are choosing and speaking on behalf millions of women who disagree with you. Bravo, way to take a stand

It isn't a huge problem yet? There is no evidence it will ever be a huge problem.

 

[Huey Grey]

Anyone know why this Huey dude hates women?

I like women. I just hate bigots.

 

[Huey Grey]

So, if I just decide to walk into LA Fitness Women's locker room, there shouldn't be an issue right? I'm not going to say a word or touch anyone. Just going to mind my bidness with my dick hanging out as I casually stroll on over to the shower.

If you're trans, yes, you should be using the women's facilities.

 

[Huey Grey]

That’s my point tho. It’s weird it is the guys on the left that are defending this so hard. For some reason, they don’t care about the women it impacts because, in their mind, it shouldn’t be an issue for the ladies. I guess this is one issue it is ok to still speak for a woman on.

It doesn't impact women. That's the point. Virtually no women will even face a trans opponent.

 

[BelemNole]

LOL, the only person claiming that there was a trans player on the other team was the girl who got hit. It's always been 'alleged trans athlete" because there's never been any proof. But you all carry on.

 

[Ghee Buttersnaps]

If you're trans, yes, you should be using the women's facilities.

So only one side's opinion matters? If your mother told you that seeing a male penis while showering at LA Fitness was offensive to her, you'd tell her she's a bigot?

 

[Scruddy]

There is no place for men in women's spaces period. Restrooms, sports, etc. Ignore the huey's of the world. Their anti woman bigotry should be ignored outright, especially when they outright say women being forced to expose themselves to men isn't harmful.

 

[Scruddy]

If you're trans, yes, you should be using the women's facilities.

Nope. No men in women's spaces. Trans women aren't real.

 

[BelemNole]

Should we start running genetic testing on all women and make them wear badges that lists what their chromosomes are, the genitalia that they were born with, the gender they were assigned at birth, and their current gender?
Might make it easier for you all to decide who you think your kids should hang around with.

 

[DooBi]

Again, these are locker rooms, not public streets. There is no expectation of seeing naked people in the street. There is every expectation of seeing naked people in locker rooms.

There should be zero expectations to see a penis in a women's locker room.

 

[Scruddy]

Should we start running genetic testing on all women and make them wear badges that lists what their chromosomes are, the genitalia that they were born with, the gender they were assigned at birth, and their current gender?
Might make it easier for you all to decide who you think your kids should hang around with.

Pretty easy to spot a bulge in a skin tight swim suit bud. Well, maybe not for you.

 

[globalhawk]

The left doesn't even want to hear opposition. Only one side's opinion matters. I get it, I'm a guy, therefore, I don't get a say. So, I asked my LBGTQ-supportive daughters what their thoughts were. Neither support biological males in female sports and neither would feel comfortable with a transgender person in the shower who still had "dude parts."

Are you painting in broad strokes?

 

[Scruddy]

There should be zero expectations to see a penis in a women's locker room.

They're legitimately trying to force women into being victims of sexual assault under the guise of fake moral virtue.

 

[BelemNole]

Are you painting in broad strokes?

of course not, he's a reasonable moderate! He hates when people do that.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Are you painting in broad strokes?

Yup, looks like I just did. Thank you for holding me accountable. I will revise my above post.

 

[alaskanseminole]

Are you painting in broad strokes?

Revised.

 

[alaskanseminole]

of course not, he's a reasonable moderate! He hates when people do that.

I have no problem owning my $hit. I, in fact, painted with a broad brush, so I revised my post.

 

[Brian_Fantana]

It doesn't impact women. That's the point. Virtually no women will even face a trans opponent.

You serious?

 

[BelemNole]

I have no problem owning my $hit. I, in fact, painted with a broad brush, so I revised my post.

Well, it's something.
Can you tell me who the many who post here are? Because most have no problems with the agencies who oversee women's competitive sports setting rules. Those rules will be VERY hard to do, so it will likely take a while.
As for rec sports, I agree with the Utah governor on the issue "When in doubt however, I always try to err on the side of kindness, mercy and compassion,”

Something other 'Christians' should consider.

 

[Brian_Fantana]

Should we start running genetic testing on all women and make them wear badges that lists what their chromosomes are, the genitalia that they were born with, the gender they were assigned at birth, and their current gender?
Might make it easier for you all to decide who you think your kids should hang around with.

I don’t care who anyone chooses to hang out with. I’ll go back to my original question tho. Why are women’s voices and concerns ignored on this subject? They are just supposed to accept it because the left tells them so? And I think it would be a safe bet to assume these aren’t MAGAs, so left likely eating their own here.

 

[BelemNole]

I don’t care who anyone chooses to hang out with. I’ll go back to my original question tho. Why are women’s voices and concerns ignored on this subject? They are just supposed to accept it because the left tells them so? And I think it would be a safe bet to assume these aren’t MAGAs, so left likely eating their own here.

You mean, ”why are right wing women’s voices ignored, other than a disproportionate amount of screen time to the actual number of occurrences!”
I don’t know, great Question.

 

[Huey Grey]

So only one side's opinion matters? If your mother told you that seeing a male penis while showering at LA Fitness was offensive to her, you'd tell her she's a bigot?

I'm bi. My mom had a good deal of problem accepting me liking dudes. She also had trouble accepting trans people. So I've already had a lot of these conversations. And now we have a really healthy relationship. Definitely the healthiest it's ever been. So I would tell my mom to do what you're supposed to do in the shower. Do your own thing and leave everyone else alone.