Wasn't even the worst decision all game. That honor goes to Gesell.
Fran took of Uthoff just as he was trying to get going.
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Worked pretty well, we didn't have any more shot passes deep into the crowd after that point.
You guys are all morons and pussies for not calling out the real elephant in the room. There was a reason he was off, and anyone watching the game knows why.
Think about it you morons.
Think about it you morons.
The kid is almost 23 years old, I am sure he will be fine mentally after being yanked and taking a 46 second breather.....lol
Wow, it was an off night. The dude was like 2-15 at that time...trying to get going LOL. He was just off and everybody but you could see that apparently. On the bright side it was off night for our best player and really not a great game by anybody besides Clemmens and Woody (who was also in foul trouble) and we still had a chance to win, on the road, against the most talented # 8 ranked team in the BIG....relax dude
Because I watched the game and saw Uthoff struggle being guarded by Layman all night and don't believe in some alternate fantasy where Fran doesn't take Uthoff out for 46 seconds after making a terrible basketball play and suddenly believe that Uthoff would have went off after that and carried us to victory. Uthoff has the greenest of green lights, if he can't handle getting a quick breather to settle down and still be aggressive, then that's on him and not Fran.
You're kidding...
Basketball is all about rhythm and confidence. Would you not agree with that? Would you agree that having your best player in rhythm and shooting with confidence beneficial to your team?
Okay, now that we've gotten that out of the way. We have a situation where your best player is trying to be aggressive for the first time all game, and what do you do? Take him out of the game after one mistake he does, totally dismantling his confidence more?! Terrible move.
Nobody's being any more negative then usual on this board. No reason to get your panties in a bunch. Calm down. I'm so excited about this season and nothing has changed that. Just want to discuss the game. The things that went bad and the things that went good. I would hope that's allowed on here.
Success, at one point he threw the ball 75 ft over the head of a 7 ft center.....off night and it was obvious. He took him out because we were trying to win the game, I think it was a great move by Fran....nobody (not even player of the year candidate) is above the team. Funny thing is JU probably understands more than you do
It was something he's probably heard ever since he was a kid. Then you have a bunch of douchebag fans chanting it loudly on national tv. Not to mention he was surrounded by it.
Put yourself in his shoes. It's easy to deflect that when you aren't the one who is being ridiculed on national tv about something that you can't change and have likely have heard ever since you were younger.
He had shot 15 shots by that point, pretty sure he had green light to be aggression and was doing that....dear god it was an off night, nothing less and nothing more
I don't disagree with that but Iowa needed to get Uthoff going to win this game right? Sometimes coaches got to get their players going and allow them some leash. I thought Fran should have just let that turnover go if you ask me. Fran's biggest issue of Uthoff has been his lack of aggression. He's talked about it all the time. Uthoff starts to be aggressive and he get pulled for making one mistake. Then he goes back to not being aggressive. Was that cause and effect? Maybe, maybe not.
I am not sure I have seen either you or jhawkfootballwhateverhisnameis on this board at all while Iowa has been crushing fools. Now, here you are spouting off on what was absolutely the right call. Uhtoff needed to sit and this game means nothing. Iowa will learn a ton from this and will move on, all the while only dropping a few spots in the polls. Stop making a big deal.
I think you are in the wrong thread, this is the one about a 46 second break to settle Uthoff down, not his looks..??
You dumb idiot, why do you think he pulled him out? Keep in mind I have some insight on this.
I'm not making it a big deal. I'm discussing a part of the game. Maybe you should go back a read through my posts in the thread. I clearly said I didn't think it cost Iowa the game. I only thought it was the wrong move and discussed it on a message board. Is that allowed?
Hmm... okay. To all you guys saying Fran taking him out (while he was trying to get going) was the right move and didn't affect the game.
Uthoff attempted 4 shots within 1:45 into the second half. Seriously. At the 18:15 mark in the second half, Uthoff was trying to get himself going and attempted 4 FG.
Since Fran took him out, Uthoff did not attempt another shot until the 8:33 mark..
Boom. Game over.
Uthoff attempted 4 shots within 1:45 into the second half. Seriously. At the 18:15 mark in the second half, Uthoff was trying to get himself going and attempted 4 FG.
Since Fran took him out, Uthoff did not attempt another shot until the 8:33 mark..
Boom. Game over.
Lol we were up 50-49 at the 8:10 mark. Boom, game over.
Iowa missed 36 shots which includes 19 3's and they missed 6 free throws with at least one being the front end...they lost by 2 possessions....there are a ton of factors in a 40 minute game, not just this one Fran 46 second decision....
My only hope is somebody takes you out of this thread because you like JU are really struggling....maybe taking you our of this thread for 46 seconds will ruin your confidence and you will quit posting for a few minutes.....but it seems like you "trying to get going" so maybe we should let you continue to just sound like a fool
Are you kidding me? The score is besides the point because what happened at the end? We lost.
Diminishing the confidence of the best player on your team is not a good decision, period. If you can't see that, then I'm sorry. We lost, and if you're so blind to recognize that then god bless.
At some point when you're not getting it done you give someone else a chance. I don't even remember who came in for him, but we have seen Dom, Brady, Wagner, and Baer all give the team a lift.
If JU was about to go off and was aggresively trying to take the game over what happened when he came back in?
He was given a pretty long rope in the 1st half and that wasn't the answer either. Does anyone remember Fran pulling Jok a few games ago and then he totally came out on fire?
It wasn't JU's night. He'll be fine and so will the Hawks.
If JU was about to go off and was aggresively trying to take the game over what happened when he came back in?
He was given a pretty long rope in the 1st half and that wasn't the answer either. Does anyone remember Fran pulling Jok a few games ago and then he totally came out on fire?
It wasn't JU's night. He'll be fine and so will the Hawks.
What happened when he came back in? That's what we are discussing! He wasn't being as aggressive, or as assertive as we was before he got taken out. Simply because his confidence got even more diminished with Fran taking him out.
How else can you explain going 10 minutes in the 2nd half without attempting a FG?
Dude, you don't post for almost 20 games.....we have one of the best starts in school history, ranked #3, top of the big ten, and are one of the surprise teams this year and you decide to start posting after our first big ten loss.....I knew misery loves company but damn dude where have you been...or do you just come on here to bitch every chance you can get
His shot pass into the crowd, he was feeling it at that point and FRAN RUINED IT ALL!!
Calm down Mr Uthoff......you do realize your son had 35 minutes of playing time right?
Thread is DUMB
If you guys honestly believe taking out your best playing right as he was trying to get going, then you don't know basketball.
I've never seen Kobe get taken out of a game for trying to get going. I've never seen Michael get taken out of a game for trying to get going. Because you know exactly what happens when a good player gets going and finds his rhythm.
Making sure your best player does not get going, is the worst coaching mistake you can make.
I've never seen Kobe get taken out of a game for trying to get going. I've never seen Michael get taken out of a game for trying to get going. Because you know exactly what happens when a good player gets going and finds his rhythm.
Making sure your best player does not get going, is the worst coaching mistake you can make.
Attempted 4 FG in the first 1:45 of the second half. Didn't attempt another fg until 8:33 mark. 10 minutes of game time.
He was trying to get going.
He played 35 minutes! 35!
Taking him out for 1 min didn't cause him to have a bad game...he was off tonight. Fran gave him every chance to get going.
Stop doubling/tripling down on stupid please....or are you simply a troll?
They also had a 3 min and 4 min drought in the first half. Old Iowa showed up tonight. Bad thing is Maryland had a 6 min drought and Iowa couldn't take advantage.
OMG can you say the phrase "trying to get going" like 50 or 60 more times.....that would be awesome! WTF does that even mean!!!!!!
2nd half: Uthoff had 4 FGA by the 18:15 mark.
Uthoff drives and assits to Woodbury.
Uthoff turns it over at the 16:39 mark.
*Uthoff gets taken out*
*Uthoff goes back in*
Iowa goes on a 5 minute scoring drought.
Uthoff attempts next FGA at 8:33.
And you don't think taking him out did anything to his confidence? How aggressive he was before getting taken out and how he was after is night and day.
Uthoff's success is detrimental to this team. Uthoff was trying to get going, and Fran took him out..eliminating any remaining confidence he might have had.
Great players have confidence, Fran can't do that for him...Iowa is going to win a lot of games still this year...go to bed
