Fran Twitter rumor: Arkansas
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Lickliter level can nowhere near be achieved in one season.
You left out: Jarryd Cole, Cully Payne, Zach McCabe (FR), eventually injury prone Eric May (SO), Devin Archie and Brommer. But Freshman Marble and Gatens were better than nothing.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to steal Fran away from us either.
Agreed. And by the same token many put Dr Tom on a pedestal for his 1st 2 years when he was handed a stable full of NBA talent.
Wonder why hotheads take shots at the McCaffery boys on social media.
In all fairness, I believe Dr. TOM groomed some of these guys into NBA talent. Many of the posters on here act like Dr. Tom just rolled the ball on the floor and reaped the rewards of George's recruiting. Give Dr. Tom credit where it is due. He implemented a style that allowed these guys to reach their potential, something George could not do.
Not really a fair comparison, but no one saw McDermott leaving ISU for Creighton. "Kind of" a step down, but ended up being good move for him.
None of us really knows what Fran and his family want. Basketball aside, this would be a HUGE move for his family (including all three boys), and impacts more than just basketball.
None of us really knows what Fran and his family want. Basketball aside, this would be a HUGE move for his family (including all three boys), and impacts more than just basketball.
And neither was much different from Alford other than Alford was an ass.
I was ready for Davis to go too.
I think 1 full recruiting cycle is about all it takes to know where it's going.
Please let us know which ones Dr Tom groomed. I’ve got to hear this.
BJ Armstrong (SO)
Ed Horton (SO)
Roy Marble (SO)
Brad Lohaus (SR)
Les Jepsen (FR)
Kevin Gamble (SR)
Bill Jones (JR)
Very true. Alford did better in the B1G, but a lot worse in the NCAA tournament.
Sure, my point was it's no where near as big a selling point in year 10 vs year 3.
I know the scholarships weren't necessarily available there but that was also kind of the problem looking at who else he had given them to. Kyle Meyer, Pat Ingram and Clemons.
Now I am all for taking shots at clown fans that have it coming but there isn’t anything in standers post that warrants it to this point.
No doubt Fran’s roster construction and unbalanced classes have been a couple of the biggest valid criticisms of his tenure
The last senior laden team lost 6 of 8 to close the season.
He said, "He implemented a style that allowed these guys to reach their potential, something George could not do." Few would argue that Dr. Tom's high-speed game was a much better showcase for those guys' NBA abilities than Raveling's. I believe that was his point.
If only I had the skilz to put Fran's head on Kramer's body
Never thought I would say this, but thanks to Herkyfan. Appreciated that.
I dont care if Fran goes to Ark or not. I was just trying to offer another possible angle. Seemed like a fair comparison to McDermott.
I dont care if Fran goes to Ark or not. I was just trying to offer another possible angle. Seemed like a fair comparison to McDermott.
If you’re the CEO at Google or a leader within Google... you don’t get 9 years to prove yourself. Fran has been paid handsomely by the U of I over 9 years. I’ll assume you’re okay with mediocrity.Exactly. That's why if you don't make a Final Four at Google within three years, they fire you.
Actually what he said is Dr Tom groomed some of these guys into NBA talent. I’ll repost his comment below. Then said something Raveling couldn’t do. Damn GR for not sending Marble, Horton, and BJ to the NBA after their FR year or Les directly to the NBA. I just wanted to know which ones were groomed by Dr Tom.
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I get and agree with your logic, but if Fran was going to be fired, it should have been done before this year. He’s not going anywhere a) because of the extension (thanks Barta) and b) because he just made the Round of 32. I guess I just don’t understand why firing Fran is still being discussed
I appreciate your optimism and confidence in Fran. I lost mine about 4 years ago. This is Iowa basketball..
Oh I agree 100 Fran isn’t going anywhere. Our inept AD saw to that.
After losing to Gonzaga in the rd of 32 and after reaching the tournament consecutive years for the first time in ten years (second time going in consecutive years in 17 seasons)?
Seems like an odd time to lose faith.
Agreed. Those were some real dire times compared to now.
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Lohaus and Gamble would have faded into obscurity under Raveling. I remember seeing the starting lineup in 86. The old man and I thought the new coach was a fail before the first game.
Wins everywhere he goes, great recruiter, players love playing for him, fans at all of the stops he's had love him, especially ETSU.
Fran's not leaving so he's not coming here but the slime trail comment is ridiculous.
Even without his first three years Davis had more success 1991-1999 than any coach since.
But one thing you can not deny is that if you throw out those first two years his next 7 years were comparable to Fran’s 7 year stretch if you throw out HIS first 2 years. Fran’s conference record a little better and Dr. Tom 4 NCAA wins vs Fran 3.
That’s very arguable and depends on what you consider success. Deepest tournament run, yes. Best B1G record, no. NCAA tournament qualifying percentage, no. Only coach to finish last in the B1G, yes.
McDermott was going to be let go at the end of the season that year. That is why he took the Creighton job.
Let’s just throw out Fran and Dr. Tom’s 1st 2 years. 7 year stretch Dr Tom was under .500 in conference play with 4 NCAA wins. Fran over .500 with 3 NCAA wins. If Fran can go to 1 sweet 16 in the next 3 years he could match his NCAA not to mention much better in conference.
