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Fran's Seat - Temperature Status

after last night it should be "core of the sun" but it's still liquid nitrogen because of Iowa's AD who's mission it is to destroy iowa athletics.
 
Barta won't fire Fran unless he is forced to. He would rather give him another secret extension.
 
Whiffing on Foster stings. I'm not worried about missing on Foster so much as I am worried about missing on any sort of talent for another year. This class has got to be considered a failure. This year has proven that Fran is not a very good recruiter or, even if he is, his baggage is turning recruits off. Furthermore, his on the court product is competitive but not exceptional. Many prognosticators, including Iowa writers, do not predict Iowa to be an NCAA tourney team this year. That would make 1 tourney in 4 years. That is not good. Lickliter can't be blamed anymore. That is all Fran.

With that in mind, what is Fran's seat reasonably at? I know we just went to the round of 32, but Tom Davis was fired after going to the Sweet 16. If Fran misses on the Tourney this year, can we reasonably put him on the hot seat?

Personally, I think Fran should be on the hot seat right now, but his seat is cool as a cucumber with Barta in charge.
Might as well be sitting on a block of ice. We are stuck until Barta leaves and we get a real AD. The problem with Fran is he and his staff cannot recruit the type of players we need badly.
 
Is there any possibility Bohannon redshirts and then grad transfers if it looks like they are going to be bad again next year?

I have wondered the same thing. If you are JBo AND you are healthy and losing minutes to the coaches son, why would you stick around? He has his shortcomings, but has been a great Hawk and the best shooter I can remember. It seems like a slap in the face. If he’s hurt then I understand, but the fact that he’s playing leads me to believe he is healthy. This has the potential to be an ugly, ugly situation.
 
If Iowa got a new A.D. today who cared even the least bit about winning, Fran would be gone after this season. He does not have the excuse of not having enough time to build the program (been here 10 years), he has not had enough success to earn the benefit of any doubt (unlike KF), and he does not have a super recruit waiting in the wings that we'd be in danger of losing (lost out on XF). I dare anyone to give one example of any coach at any respectable program that fits the above picture yet still has a job.
 
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If Iowa got a new A.D. today who cared even the least bit about winning, Fran would be gone after this season. He does not have the excuse of not having enough time to build the program (been here 10 years), he has not had enough success to earn the benefit of any doubt (unlike KF), and he does not have a super recruit waiting in the wings that we'd be in danger of losing (lost out on XF). I dare anyone to give one example of any coach at any respectable program that fits the above picture yet still has a job.

you think most coaches would be fired after 4 out of 6 tourney appearances with three wins? That’s absurd. Depaul hasn’t even been to the tournament in 15 years.
 
If Iowa got a new A.D. today who cared even the least bit about winning, Fran would be gone after this season. He does not have the excuse of not having enough time to build the program (been here 10 years), he has not had enough success to earn the benefit of any doubt (unlike KF), and he does not have a super recruit waiting in the wings that we'd be in danger of losing (lost out on XF). I dare anyone to give one example of any coach at any respectable program that fits the above picture yet still has a job.

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you think most coaches would be fired after 4 out of 6 tourney appearances with three wins? That’s absurd.

I'm sure if I looked hard enough, I could find multiple examples of coaches who have been fired in that situation, especially considering that one of those tourney appearances was a First Four flameout and two others were second-round embarrassments, and one season was a disaster. The team's gutsy performances against Cincy and Tenn last season do not excuse what's been years and years of underachieving on the court and on the recruiting trail, while acting like a total psycho much of the time.

Depaul hasn’t even been to the tournament in 15 years.

Um, did you think pointing this out today was a good idea in your defense of Fran?
 
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I'm sure if I looked hard enough, I could find multiple examples of coaches who have been fired in that situation, especially considering that one of those tourney appearances was a First Four flameout and two others were second-round embarrassments, and one season was a disaster. The team's gutsy performances against Cincy and Tenn last season do not excuse what's been years and years of underachieving on the court and on the recruiting trail, while acting like a total psycho much of the time.



Um, did you think pointing this out today was a good idea in your defense of Fran?

maybe at a blue blood school it would get you fired. Not many other places. But feel free to find examples.
 
What I've learned as an Iowa fan over the years is that unless there's a scandal, 95% of this fanbase will put up with an infinite amount of losses for an infinite amount of time. If you bitch, go root for a blue blood.
 
Bohannon isn't 100% and will ultimately take the medical....

Agreed, he looked terrible in the DePaul game. People need to brace themselves for a challenging season. Fran will absolutely need to make staff changes, maybe more than one.
 
At this point would it surprise anyone for him to take the redshirt and then grad transfer.

If he doesn’t want to start, because on a contender he will be required to work fifty times harder on his conditioning in order to do so. Less fortnight and more cardio. Now, I don’t blame him right now because he’s obviously been through a lot, but over his career his conditioning has always been a bit suspect.
 
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you think most coaches would be fired after 4 out of 6 tourney appearances with three wins? That’s absurd. Depaul hasn’t even been to the tournament in 15 years.

Most coaches would be fired after 1 in 4 tourney appearances, which if Iowa doesn't make it this year would be the case.
 
Most coaches would be fired after 1 in 4 tourney appearances, which if Iowa doesn't make it this year would be the case.

Yep, you could say Iowa made the tournament 4 of the previous 6. OR.. you can say if they miss this year, that they've missed 3 out of 4. You can make the numbers say whatever you want in this case. Depends on which side your bread is buttered on as to which way you want to spin it. But at this point, things sure do look like things are heading the wrong direction.

If we had another class with guys like White, Marble, Uthoff, Gesell, Woodbury, Jok, Uthoff, Clemmons, etc. coming in, then I'd feel differently. But, we don't. Future doesn't look too good. Iowa's talent was a lot better 4-5 years ago than it is now (IMHO).
 
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Last night wasn’t the first time we’ve gotten our doors completely blown off. A couple times last year too, completely embarrassed.
I’m not into firing people, and Barta won’t do it, but I’d say it’s time. The recruiting, frans psycho behavior, multiple blowouts, for me, we can do better for sure.
 
Wrong plan,... Barta needs to be the first man out the door.

Barta is only judged by the bottom line of the Athletic Dept. The BTN has brought in so much money.

Iowa Hoops is so far down the public consciousness now compared to 1979. 40 seems like a million years.
 
Iowa will win their share of games this year. They have talent, but Fran has proven to be just an average coach. With the amount of money Iowa has to offer a coaching staff they should be able to get someone above average. It doesn't look like Iowa will be anything more than average for the next five years. Iowa State with or without Foster won't be anything more than Iowa. Its amazing how much difference the coaching staff can make. DePaul was pretty bad a few years ago, but it didn't take long for the new staff to turn it around. Even Iowa State was interesting under Hoiberg, but has degraded pretty rapidly.
 
Another 3 years. His son will graduate and he will be 64. That’s when he retires.

This is what I see as well,... I'd actually like to see a new AD sometime within the next two years. Give him a year or so to get familiar with the strengths and weaknesses in the current athletic departments, putting him in a good position to make head coach selections for both the basketball and football programs...
 
His seat might not be warm, but at least he is not Doc Rivers tonight. Doc's own son wants the ref to give him a T, and he does! :)

 
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Barta is only judged by the bottom line of the Athletic Dept. The BTN has brought in so much money.

Iowa Hoops is so far down the public consciousness now compared to 1979. 40 seems like a million years.

the BTN/tv contracts account for less than 30% of the athletic department’s annual revenue.
 
IF I were a McCaffery apologist, I would simply point out that he has had one losing season since his first year here.
 
Staff changes came about because an assistant jumped ship.

I believe the poster above is implying forced changes due to performance goals not being met.

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