Perhaps, but T.J. in Ames turned shit around pretty damn quickly. Why can't Iowa?
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Perhaps, but T.J. in Ames turned shit around pretty damn quickly. Why can't Iowa?
Not throwing the ball away has nothing to do with his D. That turnover was a killer.
Fran is Brian. Brian is fran.
What I will give fran he know some offense.
What I will give fran he know some offense.
Cool I'm on the fence, freak out some more on this. MD is a good team, we choked in end and the few upperclassmen leaders failed in crunch time besides Freeman.
Not a recent trend. Almost all of Fran's teams. He does not develop mental toughness. Some of it would naturally be cultivated through building defense into the program
Maryland is not a good team.
Not to mention in-game personnel management. His starting lineups and substitution patterns are absolutely absurd. Totally bonkers. How long did Perkins sit tonight during a critical second half stretch leading the team in scoring and only 2 fouls?
In game adjustments are terrible. How do you have Sandfort guard Young on the last possession?
I am surprised by how quick the anti-Fran threads went up. One game. If you were that taken aback by it, you haven’t been paying attention. Even I know how wildly inconsistent Fran teams are. And this one is very limited on talent.
Yes they are. You see how many close losses they've had? They've been snake bitten and won at Illinois. They'll be a tough out in BTT.
They are young, this is a rebuild. Period. Our March Madness futures loom large with the fanbase and I get it.
Maryland is poop. We lost to poop.
Iowa basketball is what Fran wants it to be.
Not acceptable.
But hey, I'd take the paycheck to be mediocre. I'm good at that
Iowa basketball is what Fran wants it to be.
Not acceptable.
But hey, I'd take the paycheck to be mediocre. I'm good at that
I hate that I like and respect watching Iowa state more than Iowa.
They are leaps and bounds a better program. Not even close.
Correct, Sandfort should not have been in on the last defensive possession. Although he did display awful fundamental angles, which is a sign of poor defensive coaching.
Krikke should not have been in either.
Freeman had fouled out.
Harding, Bowen, Perkins, Dix, Brauns
People wonder why apathy has set in. This game is a good example.
We can’t play defense and we don’t appear to be trying to improve in that area.
97 different teams have made the Sweet 16 since Iowa last made it.
We can’t play defense and we don’t appear to be trying to improve in that area.
97 different teams have made the Sweet 16 since Iowa last made it.
A rebuild. Iowa is leading the conference in scoring. They suck on defense, again. Is Fran rebuilding the D so next year it has a pulse?
How many freshman and sophomores are in the lineup and the ones who play? Fran is an elite offensive coach you say? Agreed.
Offense has never been an issue. Defense has always been the issue.
It's hard to stay optimistic when you know the end of season outcome. Just stale all around
Krikke barely made it off the weakside block to help. He moved 2 feet. Literally two feet. That is as embarrassing as the piss poor hedge, piss poor defense out front, and piss poor subbing for defense.
1st and 2nd year players can’t play defense? Hell, we have a team full of players that can’t.
I wouldn't want to be like them honestly. Sure, you may get a great season one year but every year is tumultuously up and down with their mindset to only achieve the same thing Iowa does by the end of the season truthfully. If they were winning nattys once every few years, yeah, I'd agree with you but they're not.
I agree with you.
The problem is the rebuild doesn’t mean much at this point in Fran’s tenure. Even if Iowa got hot in February and snuck into the tournament, it would just be another season that ended the first weekend of the Dance. Yawn.
My sense is most Iowa fans are appreciative of Fran bringing Iowa basketball back from the Lickliter doldrums, but now that Fran has been here a decade and a half and has more seasons at Iowa under his belt than Dr. Tom, fans have grown tired of the same ho hum results. The program is just stale and kinda rancid at this point. No matter who the players are, the same deficiencies in defense, rebounding, toughness, athleticism, etc. persist. There just isn’t any sign of that ever changing under Fran, and without those aforementioned team attributes the results in March will continue on BAU.
I think that’s the point. Pretty much all Iowa basketball fans get Iowa’s place in the pecking order as far as being a non-blue blood is concerned. With that said, most Iowa fans also get it is not unreasonable to expect a little more energy and excitement to be injected into the program by bringing in a few better athletes while trying to improve upon areas of weakness that always plague Fran teams. With that, instill the possibility of making a decent run in the NCAA tournament once in a blue moon as opposed to never.
Unfortunately, @curtisj157 is 100% right when he says you can’t put out a basketball team that looks handpicked from the J Crew sales team and expect them to compete at a high level. A team full of C+ versions of Kyle Korver may light up the nets against East Alabama State A&M but winning consistently in the Big Ten is another matter. And it certainly doesn’t put butts in seats at Carver.
It’s time for a change.
They went to the Sweet 16 TJ’s first year. No, they are not a blue blood, but their program is in much better shape. AINEC.
Curtis the Nutjob is a performance artist and terrible at it. The fanbase is done with Fran it seems I get it. I'm on the fence but I understand and I have a thread going for who I'd want to replace him.
Hell most 1st year players are our best defenders, haven’t been as corrupted by frans idiotic philosophies yet lol
I think it's up and down. I don't view Sweet 16s as a barometer of success. I think Iowa fans do because they're so elusive and shouldn't be but they're essentially irrelevant otherwise. We're not as successful as they are, it's true, but they're basically where we are, they just do it in a different way.
When conference money truly kicks in shortly, they'll be gone anyway without a new home but that's another story for another time. I'm definitely not envious of ISU in any capacity.
Yes. Old because of the ongoing problem of Fran and this BS. This team has enough talent to at least beat Mary Land. This was on him.
Whether they are young or not, the team should be better. And they display the areas of Fran's weaknesses
Among the current power conference programs (include Big East in basketball), 65 of those 76 programs have made it to the Sweet 16 in the 21st century. Iowa is one of 11 that hasn’t made a tourney run.
Fran Fatigue is in full force. Letting him return next season will result in even lower attendance.
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Six stinking points from sandfort, upper classmen on a team needing his shooting skill set. Then 2 turnovers to boot. With the lack of options on this squad he needed to step up more increasing his scoring average by more than 4 points. Just not a fan of his game
Any chance of tourney talk ended tonight.
Only chance now is a miracle BTT win.
At least we still have WBB.
I feel like I should be pretty upset with myself about not watching bball games, but I just don't. I never missed a televised game in the previous 30 years - aside from some of the dark times of the Lickliter era - but I just can't find the excitement for it like I used to.
Its a culmination of this season and the accrued lack of any true NCAA Tourney success despite the talent available in the recent past.
Nowadays I'm pleasantly surprised to see they won when they do, but otherwise its more like "glad I dodged that bullet".
Its a culmination of this season and the accrued lack of any true NCAA Tourney success despite the talent available in the recent past.
Nowadays I'm pleasantly surprised to see they won when they do, but otherwise its more like "glad I dodged that bullet".
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