Future schedules

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Just looking ahead here, but for those of you complaining about our boring home slate of games in recent years, while the non-conference is never going to satisfy you (unless we move to 13 games because we're not dropping Iowa State and you can f***ing deal with that ...........................), if you're patient enough to wait for the 2017 and 2020 seasons, we should be in for some real quality entertainment.

2017 boasts Penn State, our river rivals Illinois, the team that hates us in Minnesota, and the long-awaited return of the Ohio State Buckeyes...........and as long as you don't look at all the players we'll be losing after 2016 then there's plenty to be excited for with that 2017 schedule!!!

2020 is somewhat of a flip from the 2017 schedule. Michigan State is our first road game in 2017, and we'll get to host them in 2020, along with division rivals Northwestern, Wisconsin and Nebraska. We also make road trips to Happy Valley and Columbus.

Complaints? Anyone?

 

[Hawks_Rock_12]

2017 OOC Wyoming, North Texas, ISU While I know they can't do anything about ISU but Wyoming and North Texas give me a break...smh If Iowa wants the national media respect they're gonna need to step up and play a good OOC game. Plus the fans deserve better.

 

[Packer54]

2017 OOC Wyoming, North Texas, ISU While I know they can't do anything about ISU but Wyoming and North Texas give me a break...smh If Iowa wants the national media respect they're gonna need to step up and play a good OOC game. Plus the fans deserve better.

I think there is less need for this since we are stuck with ISU. Having OSU, MSU, Michigan, Penn State off and on the schedule along with Wisky and Nebraska every year, THOSE are the games you have to win to get the respect. I think with very few exceptions if we went 12-0 this year while traveling to PSU and beating Michigan, the complainers about the schedule dissipate. Last year was a funky scheduling year where be played zero of the power teams in the east until the btt games. And even losing that they way the team played got them a ton of national credit. Unfortunately we gave some back after the RB.

I would rather be without ISU and have that used with a power Conf team but as mentioned, we seem stuck with it.

 

[hawkhoundstooth]

You are not going to have any worthwhile out of conference game as long as Kirk is the coach. He wants an easy schedule and that's the way it's going to be. It's also why attendance is dwindling. Kirk likes the wins and cares little about anything else. And mostly, fans don't seem to care..and don't blame the ISU game, there are ways to work around that and schedule a decent game...

 

[MepoDawg#]

You are not going to have any worthwhile out of conference game as long as Kirk is the coach. He wants an easy schedule and that's the way it's going to be. It's also why attendance is dwindling. Kirk likes the wins and cares little about anything else. And mostly, fans don't seem to care..and don't blame the ISU game, there are ways to work around that and schedule a decent game...

Right, because Iowa has never played Pitt, Arizona, Arizona St, and Syracuse under KF along with ISU. Not every year, but Iowa is one of the teams that usually plays 2 Power 5 teams in out of conference play. Moving to a 9 game conference schedule changes that to get 7 home games.

 

[Scott559]

For those of you that rail against Iowa not scheduling more of the "big boys' in the OOC schedule, Remember Iowa is trying to get home games for $$$, Next, I am going to just guess, However I think Iowa is a program that many of the bigger name schools that many of you want to see on the schedule see no real advantage in scheduling a series with. What is in it for Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU, USC etc. They will have to schedule home and home, They lose a valuable home game just like Iowa and while they will likely be favored vs Iowa, Iowa would likely be considered a tough OOC game that while there fans may not be excited about, Their coaches would be worried about.
I would love to see Iowa in an occasional big game like one of the kick off classics vs a big name school, However scheduling big name schools on a year in and year out basis just doesn't make a ton of sense to me

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

2017 OOC Wyoming, North Texas, ISU While I know they can't do anything about ISU but Wyoming and North Texas give me a break...smh If Iowa wants the national media respect they're gonna need to step up and play a good OOC game. Plus the fans deserve better.

It has nothing to do with Iowa's non conference schedule. There were plenty of teams that got plenty of hand jobs from ESPN that had far worse non conference schedules than Iowa. The problem was that our confernce slate was weak and Iowa can do nothing about that.
Pretty much the entire big 12 had worse non conference schedules than Iowa (check out TCU, Baylor, OSU)
Here are 3 of Alabama's non conference games 1) Middle Tenn. 2) ULM 3) Charleston Southern

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

You are not going to have any worthwhile out of conference game as long as Kirk is the coach. He wants an easy schedule and that's the way it's going to be. It's also why attendance is dwindling. Kirk likes the wins and cares little about anything else. And mostly, fans don't seem to care..and don't blame the ISU game, there are ways to work around that and schedule a decent game...

Why don't you look at every single teams non conference schedule, as if this is an isolated thing at iowa. Lets tak a look at some schedules from non conference last year, you know actually do some research before pretending like you know what you are talking about.
LSU played Mcneese State, Syracuse, Eastern Michigan, and western Kenturcky
Bama- 1) Middle Tenn. 2) ULM 3) Charleston Southern 4) Wisconsin
TCU- Minny, SMU, and Stephen F Austin
Oky State- central michigan, central arkansas, UTSA
Baylor- Smu, Lamar, RIce
Florida State- Texas state, USF, Chatanooga
shall I go on????

 

[hawkcub]

Every year it's the same argument from those who love to talk out of their ass. When we played 4 NC games. Most years we played ISU and another P5 team. These big time matchups of othet programs it's usually 1 big game and 3 cupcakes. The negative of 9 conference games is it handicaps Iowa NC schedule because of ISU.

 

[scarletred]

Right, because Iowa has never played Pitt, Arizona, Arizona St, and Syracuse under KF along with ISU. Not every year, but Iowa is one of the teams that usually plays 2 Power 5 teams in out of conference play. Moving to a 9 game conference schedule changes that to get 7 home games.

Those are only 4 teams besides ISU in Ferentz era (18 years)That isn't very many.

Hate to use Nebraska as a example but in the same time period, Nebraska played Cal, Notre Dame Pitt, Washington(3),USC, Wake Forrest,Virgina Tech, UCLA,Miami Fla, Oregon and Penn St when we weren't in the B1G.

I think that is what hawkhoundstooth is trying to point out.

 

[Packer54]

Nebraska before they were in Conf
ASU twice
Syracuse twice
Kansas St
Arizona twice
Pitt 4 times

So that is 12 plus ISU every year. With Conf games expanding you are replacing those games up top with a Conf game.

 

[hawkcub]

We played Pitt 4x and the rest were home and homes. Also played Nebraska in a home and home early in his Iowa career. Hate to bring that up. In one year played Kstate also. But that was a year the played Nebraska also. So that's 12 out of 18 years they played ISU plus 1 P5 team.

 

[scarletred]

Kansas State wasn't a schedule series didn't they play in Kansas City Arrowhead in some Pigskin or Eddie Robinson Classic?

Because Nebraska played Arizona St and TCU during that time frame in those early season Classic's

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

Those are only 4 teams besides ISU in Ferentz era (18 years)That isn't very many.

Hate to use Nebraska as a example but in the same time period, Nebraska played Cal, Notre Dame Pitt, Washington(3),USC, Wake Forrest,Virgina Tech, UCLA,Miami Fla, Oregon and Penn St when we weren't in the B1G.

I think that is what hawkhoundstooth is trying to point out.

Yes using Nebraska as an example doesn't help the argument. Please refer to a relevant team during that time period to make your point. I mean if those schedules led to, oh IDK, a top 10 finish or BCS bowl birth and/or BCS bowl victory then I would understand, but during this time period you are referring too is a downward spiral from being a dominant blue blood program in the 90's, to a 5 win regular season last year.....so what is your point?

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Also Missouri chickensh itted and backed out of a 2 game series with Iowa at the last minute and paid the fee to get out. Pinkle said Iowa was too tough. We could only get UNI to fill in.

So that is 32 P5 teams the Hawks have played OOC in the 18 years since KF came here. Now how many P5 teams has Debbie played in the past 18 years OOC?

 

[Packer54]

Kansas State wasn't a schedule series didn't they play in Kansas City Arrowhead in some Pigskin or Eddie Robinson Classic?

Because Nebraska played Arizona St and TCU during that time frame in those early season Classic's

Ahhhhh.....they played them.

 

[Packer54]

Also Missouri chickensh itted and backed out of a 2 game series with Iowa at the last minute and paid the fee to get out. Pinkle said Iowa was too tough. We could only get UNI to fill in
So that is 32 P5 teams the Hawks have played OOC in the 18 years since KF came here. Now how many P5 teams has Debbie played in the past 18 years OOC?

Good catch. Forgot about Missouri. 32 over 18 years is pretty representative if you ask me.

 

[BirdistheWord]

I believe there is a desire to mix in some occasional blue chip OOC opponents. Yes we have taken on some decent competition as noted above. But we need to try and add someone like Oregon, Utah, USC, UCLA, Oklahoma, OK St, Texas, K State, Anyone from SEC, Clemson, FSU, ND, even BYU. Now I realize some of these schools may not be as interested in playing us, but we have to Git R Done.

While Mizzou did back out, bottom line is we played UNI and not an SEC team.

 

[Southerniowacy]

Also Missouri chickensh itted and backed out of a 2 game series with Iowa at the last minute and paid the fee to get out. Pinkle said Iowa was too tough. We could only get UNI to fill in.

So that is 32 P5 teams the Hawks have played OOC in the 18 years since KF came here. Now how many P5 teams has Debbie played in the past 18 years OOC?

Yes, Missouri did, but you are also forgetting that Iowa was the one that cancelled the last two games that they signed up to play. It was a four game deal, not just two.

 

[Packer54]

Yes, Missouri did, but you are also forgetting that Iowa was the one that cancelled the last two games that they signed up to play. It was a four game deal, not just two.

Why the hell would we keep it after they were the one that put Iowa in a last minute bind? Think about it before you type.

 

[Packer54]

I believe there is a desire to mix in some occasional blue chip OOC opponents. Yes we have taken on some decent competition as noted above. But we need to try and add someone like Oregon, Utah, USC, UCLA, Oklahoma, OK St, Texas, K State, Anyone from SEC, Clemson, FSU, ND, even BYU. Now I realize some of these schools may not be as interested in playing us, but we have to Git R Done.

While Mizzou did back out, bottom line is we played UNI and not an SEC team.

So you know for sure we have not tried to schedule a home and home with any of these teams?

 

[Southerniowacy]

Why the hell would we keep it after they were the one that put Iowa in a last minute bind? Think about it before you type.

I am not saying they should of, but everyone seems to say, Missouri chickened out, and maybe they did, but Iowa could have said we will continue to play the other two games and show them. I can not remember the time line of how long Iowa cancelled the last two games after Mizzu said they wanted out of the deal, but by the time the second series of game were scheduled to be played, Missouri really had it rolling. Iowa may have caught a break not playing them.

 

[scarletred]

Yes using Nebraska as an example doesn't help the argument. Please refer to a relevant team during that time period to make your point. I mean if those schedules led to, oh IDK, a top 10 finish or BCS bowl birth and/or BCS bowl victory then I would understand, but during this time period you are referring too is a downward spiral from being a dominant blue blood program in the 90's, to a 5 win regular season last year.....so what is your point?

During this time frame ( Ferentz 18 years) Nebraska was ranked in the top 10 in 1999-2001 and went to the Fiesta and Rose Bowls.

These non conference games are scheduled years in advance.
And what does that have to do with anything that's like blaming Iowa for being 4-8 in 2012 because you didn't play any tough non conference games.

Having a hard time understanding your logic

 

[Packer54]

I believe there is a desire to mix in some occasional blue chip OOC opponents. Yes we have taken on some decent competition as noted above. But we need to try and add someone like Oregon, Utah, USC, UCLA, Oklahoma, OK St, Texas, K State, Anyone from SEC, Clemson, FSU, ND, even BYU. Now I realize some of these schools may not be as interested in playing us, but we have to Git R Done.

While Mizzou did back out, bottom line is we played UNI and not an SEC team.

By the way do you know WHEN Missouri canceled the games? Yeah I am sure there were all sorts of openings with SEC teams. Jaysus

 

[rchawk]

Unfortunately this isn't going to change soon. The mathematically challenged never seem to get it, maybe they need a video with sock puppets.

Twelve-game regular season. Gary Barta has made it plain that the UI wants seven home games a year. The Big Ten is moving forward to a nine-game conference schedule. Barta has also made it plain that the Iowa-ISU game will continue every year. That's 9+1=10 out of twelve games.

There is no serious indication that the regular season will be expanded to 13 games, and I hope it does not happen. 13 games, plus a bowl game, maybe a league championship game, you are into a number of games that approaches the NFL's 16 games. College football is not the NFL nor should it try to be. I've been to many Bears games and I prefer the college game day experience. It is more fun.

Barta wants seven home games a year because football pays for everything except basketball. Iowa's wrestling, baseball, track teams are in the red just like everubody else's. With that in mind, nine Big Ten games plus ISU leaves two openings. No P5 team is going to come to Iowa and not insist on a return date. Teams like North Texas and Kent State will keep showing up on the schedule. The next time Iowa plays Pitt or Arizona or Syracuse it will have to be in a bowl game.

If you took just one math class in high school it should not be hard to figure out.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

How many P5 teams has Debbie played in the past 18 years OOC? Iowa scheduled 32.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

I am not saying they should of, but everyone seems to say, Missouri chickened out, and maybe they did, but Iowa could have said we will continue to play the other two games and show them. I can not remember the time line of how long Iowa cancelled the last two games after Mizzu said they wanted out of the deal, but by the time the second series of game were scheduled to be played, Missouri really had it rolling. Iowa may have caught a break not playing them.

You're going to have to provide a link. I can find all sorts of articles saying Misery cancelled the series qouting Pinkel saying the hawks were too tough, and Iowa taking a big financial hit having to go with UNI since everyone elses schedules were set. Come up with something to back up your claim.

 

[scarletred]

How many P5 teams has Debbie played in the past 18 years OOC? Iowa scheduled 32.

Are you going to subtract Iowa St 18 games? Because not counting this year which would make 18 years Iowa State is 84-124 0.403 winning pct which is 93rd out of 120 teams.

Teams like Fresno St, Southern Miss, Western Mich,Troy and a few others have been better then ISU in this time frame just because they're not a P-5 school.

26 would be your answer.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

During this time frame ( Ferentz 18 years) Nebraska was ranked in the top 10 in 1999-2001 and went to the Fiesta and Rose Bowls.

These non conference games are scheduled years in advance.
And what does that have to do with anything that's like blaming Iowa for being 4-8 in 2012 because you didn't play any tough non conference games.

Having a hard time understanding your logic

Iowa went 4-8 in 2012 because they sucked, same reason Nebby won 5 games last year.
My point is, that I really do not care who Nebby played or didn't play. The fact is they haven't done a damn thing worth noting since, as you pointed out, 2001. Dude, that is 15 years ago. If your so called "tough" scheduling would lead to some success then I would say that would have added to the discussion. However, the fact is it does not. All you are doing is trying to get the rest of to drink the red kool-aid, but if you haven't noticed other than the 30 mile radius around Lincoln the rest of the country doesn't care. Your program is mediocre at best and your Nebby posts brings nothing to this discussion.

 

[scarletred]

And your post just derails the original post about future schedules.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Are you going to subtract Iowa St 18 games? Because not counting this year which would make 18 years Iowa State is 84-124 0.403 winning pct which is 93rd out of 120 teams.

Teams like Fresno St, Southern Miss, Western Mich,Troy and a few others have been better then ISU in this time frame just because they're not a P-5 school.

26 would be your answer.

Doesn't really matter, does it? ISU has been good enough to be a peer of the mighty UNL Bugeaters. There's been plenty of Northwesterns around for Devaney to schedule if he wanted them. Don't try using the lack of a Nebraska St. or Creighton in the B10 as an excuse.

FACT is, Iowa has scheduled 6 more games than Li'l Debbie since KF has arrived. Maybe you should bow out now.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Unfortunately this isn't going to change soon. The mathematically challenged never seem to get it, maybe they need a video with sock puppets.

Twelve-game regular season. Gary Barta has made it plain that the UI wants seven home games a year. The Big Ten is moving forward to a nine-game conference schedule. Barta has also made it plain that the Iowa-ISU game will continue every year. That's 9+1=10 out of twelve games.

There is no serious indication that the regular season will be expanded to 13 games, and I hope it does not happen. 13 games, plus a bowl game, maybe a league championship game, you are into a number of games that approaches the NFL's 16 games. College football is not the NFL nor should it try to be. I've been to many Bears games and I prefer the college game day experience. It is more fun.

Barta wants seven home games a year because football pays for everything except basketball. Iowa's wrestling, baseball, track teams are in the red just like everubody else's. With that in mind, nine Big Ten games plus ISU leaves two openings. No P5 team is going to come to Iowa and not insist on a return date. Teams like North Texas and Kent State will keep showing up on the schedule. The next time Iowa plays Pitt or Arizona or Syracuse it will have to be in a bowl game.

If you took just one math class in high school it should not be hard to figure out.

Thank you. I've posted similiar info like this multiple times as well. Some Iowa fans just don't understand this concept. Plus not like big names like bama or LSU have Iowa on top of their list of P5 schools they want to play. Iowa is unique when looking at big ten schools (minus Pitt and psu who are finally playing again this year after a long hiatus) who has an in state rival not in their conference but in another power 5 conference in isu. And as long as we play them with 9 game conference schedule won't be playing any other power 5 teams unless we go to 6 home games which Barta isn't going to allow any time soon.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

Iowa fans may think they have a lousy schedule but check out the schedule for North Carolina non-conference -Georgia (neutral site at Georgia Dome), At Illinois and two home non-conference games against James Madison and The Citadel. That is TWO home non-conference games against FCS teams. That is a schedule to complain about. Imagine if NCar goes 12-0 and wins the ACC championship game. Does a 13-0 NCar team deserve a Top 4 spot?

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

2017 OOC Wyoming, North Texas, ISU While I know they can't do anything about ISU but Wyoming and North Texas give me a break...smh If Iowa wants the national media respect they're gonna need to step up and play a good OOC game. Plus the fans deserve better.

So what you're saying is you don't understand how scheduling works.......

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Those are only 4 teams besides ISU in Ferentz era (18 years)That isn't very many.

Hate to use Nebraska as a example but in the same time period, Nebraska played Cal, Notre Dame Pitt, Washington(3),USC, Wake Forrest,Virgina Tech, UCLA,Miami Fla, Oregon and Penn St when we weren't in the B1G.

I think that is what hawkhoundstooth is trying to point out.

Yeah but.......here's my counter arguments in order:

- Those aren't the only 4.......just sayin

- "Hate to use Nebraska"........then don't.

- This was also back when Nebraska was still quasi-Nebraska. You're not "Nebraska" anymore. Much like Michigan hasn't been "Michigan" for a long time, though we'll see how long the Harbaugh experiment lasts if he doesn't sink his own ship first.

- Nebraska, like Wisconsin or Ohio State or many other teams, can afford to schedule multiple different major conference opponents because they are not locked into an OOC game annually. How much more hamstrung would Nebraska's schedule be, with the current addition of 9 conference games, if they were to lock themselves into an OOC game with Colorado every year? If you want 7 home games each year, then it's basically impossible to play anyone else. I'm thinking Nebraska would rather have that freedom to choose.......

You're welcome.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I believe there is a desire to mix in some occasional blue chip OOC opponents. Yes we have taken on some decent competition as noted above. But we need to try and add someone like Oregon, Utah, USC, UCLA, Oklahoma, OK St, Texas, K State, Anyone from SEC, Clemson, FSU, ND, even BYU. Now I realize some of these schools may not be as interested in playing us, but we have to Git R Done.

While Mizzou did back out, bottom line is we played UNI and not an SEC team.

They literally backed out like a year or two before we played them..........no (enticing to you, perhaps) major conference team would've been able to fit Iowa into their schedule on such short notice. Most FBS teams wouldn't for that matter.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Iowa may have caught a break not playing them.

Maybe........maybe not.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

in 2012 because you didn't play any tough non conference games.

Having a hard time understanding your logic

It's Iowa.....all our games are tough because we make it so. This includes Nebraska. See 2014 for examples.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Are you going to subtract Iowa St 18 games? Because not counting this year which would make 18 years Iowa State is 84-124 0.403 winning pct which is 93rd out of 120 teams.

Teams like Fresno St, Southern Miss, Western Mich,Troy and a few others have been better then ISU in this time frame just because they're not a P-5 school.

26 would be your answer.

Lol, Iowa has played more than you and therefore we are the superior program because that's how it works......................................

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

And your post just derails the original post about future schedules.

I can't wait until our fans actually turn their attention to the 2017 schedule and really take a good look at who we're playing and what kind of Iowa team will be playing all those teams..........................