Gabble Steveson to Iowa?
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Press release from the University of Minnesota says they expect him back Nov. 24 for Campbell Camel dual.
I'm all for it. Without Gable, PSU will get a champion at 285. At least Steveson's return makes that more difficult.
I am surprised he took this long to announce his comeback.
Tim Dwight was going to come back from the nfl to run track for one season if I'm not mistaken
I imagine some other venture he was pursuing didn't pan out and this is the fallback plan.
Imagine the guy that was penciled in at Hwt for Eggum ain't none too happy.
Could be a portal transfer from Minny????
He was just down here in Albuquerque training with Jon Jones and some other guys, maybe realized MMA wasn't for him
Well to be fair, one of the Buffalo Bills’ predecessors briefly played in Olympic Stadium in Buffalo that was named as the host for the 1901 Olympic games when the Olympic organizers briefly decided to hold the Olympics every year, but quickly changed their mind back to the four year cycle. Ergo, by participating in the Bills training camp, he was also retroactively competing in the 1901 Olympic trials that never happened.
From the NCAA Division I Manual:
14.4.3.7 Waivers of Progress-Toward-Degree Rule. The Division I Progress-Toward-Degree Waivers Committee shall establish appropriate criteria for waivers of this legislation. The following waivers shall be administered by the conference members of the Association or, in the case of an independent institution, by the Division I Progress-Toward-Degree Waivers Committee. . . .
(b) International Competition. The credit hours required under the progress-toward-degree regulation of Bylaws 14.4.3.1 and 14.4.3.6-(c) may be prorated at nine hours per term of actual attendance during an academic year in which a student is not enrolled for a term or terms or is unable to complete a term as a full-time student as a result of participation in the Pan American Games, Olympic Games, Paralympic Games, World Championships, World Cup, FIFA U-20 World Cup, World University Games (Universiade) or World University Championships (including final tryouts and the officially recognized training program that directly qualifies participants for those tryouts). This waiver provision may be applied to not more than two semesters or three quarters. Credits earned by the student during the term or terms to which the waiver applies may be used to satisfy the 24-/36-hour [see Bylaw 14.4.3.1-(a)], percentage-of-degree (see Bylaw 14.4.3.2) and grade-point average requirements (see Bylaw 14.4.3.3). However, a term to which an international competition waiver applies does not count as a term of full-time enrollment for purposes of the 24/36 credit-hour requirement, percentage-of-degree requirements or grade-point average requirements.
[I'm not sure what the first sentence in (b) means. What does it mean for credit hours to be prorated at nine hours per term if the student is not enrolled? How does a student satisfy the nine hour credit requirement if they're not in school? Nor am I sure that this is the only provision governing so-called Olympic redshirts; there might be other applicable provisions. I didn't go through the whole thing, which is a tome.
Nevertheless, this provision at least seems to contemplate that, for the progress-toward-degree waiver to apply, the student-athlete needs to be engaged in an officially recognized training program to prepare for the Olympics.
If I were a head coach with a promising heavyweight who was putting football on hold to concentrate on wrestling, I might make a stink about a seventh-year former Olympic champ gaming the system, assuming that's what's happening here.]
14.4.3.7 Waivers of Progress-Toward-Degree Rule. The Division I Progress-Toward-Degree Waivers Committee shall establish appropriate criteria for waivers of this legislation. The following waivers shall be administered by the conference members of the Association or, in the case of an independent institution, by the Division I Progress-Toward-Degree Waivers Committee. . . .
(b) International Competition. The credit hours required under the progress-toward-degree regulation of Bylaws 14.4.3.1 and 14.4.3.6-(c) may be prorated at nine hours per term of actual attendance during an academic year in which a student is not enrolled for a term or terms or is unable to complete a term as a full-time student as a result of participation in the Pan American Games, Olympic Games, Paralympic Games, World Championships, World Cup, FIFA U-20 World Cup, World University Games (Universiade) or World University Championships (including final tryouts and the officially recognized training program that directly qualifies participants for those tryouts). This waiver provision may be applied to not more than two semesters or three quarters. Credits earned by the student during the term or terms to which the waiver applies may be used to satisfy the 24-/36-hour [see Bylaw 14.4.3.1-(a)], percentage-of-degree (see Bylaw 14.4.3.2) and grade-point average requirements (see Bylaw 14.4.3.3). However, a term to which an international competition waiver applies does not count as a term of full-time enrollment for purposes of the 24/36 credit-hour requirement, percentage-of-degree requirements or grade-point average requirements.
[I'm not sure what the first sentence in (b) means. What does it mean for credit hours to be prorated at nine hours per term if the student is not enrolled? How does a student satisfy the nine hour credit requirement if they're not in school? Nor am I sure that this is the only provision governing so-called Olympic redshirts; there might be other applicable provisions. I didn't go through the whole thing, which is a tome.
Nevertheless, this provision at least seems to contemplate that, for the progress-toward-degree waiver to apply, the student-athlete needs to be engaged in an officially recognized training program to prepare for the Olympics.
If I were a head coach with a promising heavyweight who was putting football on hold to concentrate on wrestling, I might make a stink about a seventh-year former Olympic champ gaming the system, assuming that's what's happening here.]
Getting punched in the face isn't for everyone.
That’s quite the take. This has been possible for at least 40 years. Probably a lot longer.
Wasn’t just “going to.” He actually did.
He already graduated and has a degree. He's just gotta enroll in classes now
He needed his big entrance, it's all about the show baby!
All indications were his requests were pretty obscene.
As cool as it would have been, I would rather see Ben develop and become the next dominant heavy.
That said, I am excited Gable is coming back and I think it's good for the sport. I don't care that he ventured off and tried to make some money. Given his talents I would have absolutely done the same. This isn't exactly stellar news for our young emerging heavyweight, but I think Ben would say unquestionably he wants to compete against the best.
Let the fur fly.
it would have been quite the slap in the face to Ben after giving up football for a year and setting back his progress there
Not to mention Tom's relationship with Kirk - which sounds like he's going to need to maintain if they want Dreshaun Ross
I don't see too many people hating on him. Honest questions about eligibility aren't hating.
Can you list "all of the 6-7th year guys" Iowa has had? You make it sound like it is a pretty common practice. And yes I understand the Covid year is an exception and will add a few to the list.
Marinelli, Kemerer, Warner, Spencer, Eierman, Franek, Murin, Young, Woods.
Cassioppi had his 6th year negated by the suspension. This year we add Parco, Teemer, Brands, and Buchanan.
Kemerer, Teemer, and Brands were/are 7 year guys.
As you can see, it's a pretty long list....
But, is that an abnormal number? Doesn’t Covid pretty much affect all of DI lineups the exact same way(excepting the few that don’t redshirt)?…
Ben get get to experience wrestling the best college heavyweight of all time. It does take away one more spot on the podium, but that only affects Ben if you think he would have been lucky to finish 8th. I think he will be better than that by the end of the season. It really hurts Kerk, who was almost a shoe in as champion. Also like that it probably take one champion away from PSU. The dream situation would be to have him join the HWC this year, do freestyle, train with Ben, then be our heavyweight next year. He probably wasn’t getting as big of offers as he wanted, otherwise he wouldn’t be back in Minnesota.
If I had to guess he was just there to work with Jones with his wrestling. Getting punched in the face was probably not on the training agenda.
I saw on Twitter Daton Fix is coming back i don't know if it's a joke or not.
Nearly every single one of those are because of the Covid year and were continuous. There is a difference between that and taking a couple of years off and then coming back. And quite frankly, I don't care that he is coming back. Just don't make it look like Iowa is the only one doing this.
It’s 100% a joke, but him coming back to go 0 for 6 at Nationals would be kinda funny.
All those guys other than Kem, Teemer, and Brands would have only had 5 years if not for Covid. Everyone got that year extra (other than the seniors that year that should have) so that is not relevant. It was just a matter of whether they chose to use it or not, not like they were getting something everyone else wasn't getting. The only guys that are outliers are the 7th year guys that got medical redshirts or ORS. If not for Covid they would only have been 6th year guys as well. Your list only has 3 on it as far as I'm concerned. That being said, I have no issue with guys coming back other than Daton Fix was bs imo. He got caught cheating and got to use his ORS and Covid years to avoid actually missing any NCAA's. Nobody should get 5 NCAA's with a 1 year suspension thrown in there as well, but what do I know. I will be really glad when all the covid stuff is gone as far as eligibility is concerned for guys, that is for sure.
