He mentioned he would be interested in Iowa if the opportunity came up.
Get David Taylor on staff!!
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I think most would agree he would be a welcome addition. Which brings up a couple questions.
I would assume to get him away from PSU, it would take some major money and thus a respectable paid staff member. You have Tom and Terry as Head and Associate Head Coach, followed by Star as Asst. Coach. Berhow is Volunteer, Eustice is Director of Operations and Rutt is Strength. I would assume DT would only come if Terry's job came open? Maybe he'd come for Morningstar's salary?
But then if a spot comes open that would pay a decent salary, is it enough to have Metcalf come back and leave his USA Wrestling position?
I think it's all a moot point though as I don't think the "big pockets" at PSU would let DT leave.
I would assume to get him away from PSU, it would take some major money and thus a respectable paid staff member. You have Tom and Terry as Head and Associate Head Coach, followed by Star as Asst. Coach. Berhow is Volunteer, Eustice is Director of Operations and Rutt is Strength. I would assume DT would only come if Terry's job came open? Maybe he'd come for Morningstar's salary?
But then if a spot comes open that would pay a decent salary, is it enough to have Metcalf come back and leave his USA Wrestling position?
I think it's all a moot point though as I don't think the "big pockets" at PSU would let DT leave.
Maybe we should ask JRob how to get more guys on staff.
Not a PSU fan at all but from a 157-184 standpoint he would be a huge improvement on the coaching skill set the Hawks have. Trying not to step on morning stars toes (guy is tough as nails and a great hawk). DT is great in all positions. IMO - a must get if there's a chance.
Does Taylor possibly have Kirk's agent? This smells like David trying to get more money from Penn State.
Just because he can perform a move doesn't mean he can teach it. A lot of what he does is due to having 8 foot arms. Anyone wanting to replace M* has lost their minds in my opinion. I don't buy for a second that he would relocate in the next couple of years, but would welcome him as part of the HWC.
Such a tired discussion.
I respect the opinions and they are good thoughts.
We placed third at big10 and some seemed surprised. not fully recovered Clark, no Stoll and Kemdog short of 100%. We got out recruited 4 years ago and that has been discussed at length and TnT seem to be addressing it. Cant go back in time but there is a future to look forward to.
With the positive changes that have been made and (even if you don't want to see it) some positive momentum, I don't get the change coaches stuff.
If people think things are "not the same" right now with Tom, (lack of titles and so on) bringing in almost ANYONE else at the helm will move the team away from the traditional feel we are all wanting and fighting for. "PSU will own NCAA for 10 years". Well, stacked team this year and the big 10 slipped away. Good reasons for it but it shows the one universal truth of college wrestling. anything can happen and there are no laurels to rest on. You have to wrestle it. Even with a loaded team next year, there are legit challengers to them. Okie is young, tOSU is young and others are coming up. Iowa may have a rebuilding year but will still be tough. Once we get the stable off RS and on the mat, Hawks will be back in contention. Make a change now....that goes away.
I respect the opinions and they are good thoughts.
We placed third at big10 and some seemed surprised. not fully recovered Clark, no Stoll and Kemdog short of 100%. We got out recruited 4 years ago and that has been discussed at length and TnT seem to be addressing it. Cant go back in time but there is a future to look forward to.
With the positive changes that have been made and (even if you don't want to see it) some positive momentum, I don't get the change coaches stuff.
If people think things are "not the same" right now with Tom, (lack of titles and so on) bringing in almost ANYONE else at the helm will move the team away from the traditional feel we are all wanting and fighting for. "PSU will own NCAA for 10 years". Well, stacked team this year and the big 10 slipped away. Good reasons for it but it shows the one universal truth of college wrestling. anything can happen and there are no laurels to rest on. You have to wrestle it. Even with a loaded team next year, there are legit challengers to them. Okie is young, tOSU is young and others are coming up. Iowa may have a rebuilding year but will still be tough. Once we get the stable off RS and on the mat, Hawks will be back in contention. Make a change now....that goes away.
Easy, become a slum lord and pay them in property.Maybe we should ask JRob how to get more guys on staff.
If he's available u have to make a offer and if need be fire another coach. He will be the hottest coaching commodity in a few years.
He star power is undeniable and is very relevant to high school recruits. His size and mentality would be a great addition
He star power is undeniable and is very relevant to high school recruits. His size and mentality would be a great addition
Yes - a great wrestler doesn't always make a great coach BUT sometimes it DOES. Example - TERRY. I'm not trying to trash talk another hawk because as a wrestler morning star was a warrior. I've always thought morning* doesn't bring the offense we need from neutral with his style. PSU has guys that create offense through the match at 157-184. Maybe just maybe DT is rubbing off on those guys. We need more from neutral than just pounding on the head (Gunther). Gunther is in great shape and seems to take less and less shots as the season goes on. Meyer as a fresh/Soph - shots, now not so much....
No offense but your argument off. Kemdawg is an offensive dynamo. Gunther is our 3rd best 165. Brooks is one of the top offensive guys in the country regardless of weight. Next year we should have Bull, Young, and Kemdawg for 3 of your 4 chosen weights. It's the Jimmy's and the Joes. M* is a big part of the new Joes coming to town.
Why don't all of the guys at Wisconsin wrestle like Barry Davis?
I am so tired of the argument that Iowa doesn't attack constantly because of M*.
I am so tired of the argument that Iowa doesn't attack constantly because of M*.
It's not just DT that they're rubbing off of. They got ARMY rtc there as well as two world medalists in the 41-57 range to roll with two.
The resources and and names they have stocked up there at psu's post college wrestling groups is questionably impressive.
I took my team to a DT clinic a year or two ago. Was alot different than most clinics. Theme was cradle from anywhere. Spent some time on his ankle pick , and various cradles. Probably half the clinic was on mindset and how to drill. I immediately saw a difference in the practice room afterwards. Guys were not just going through the motions , they were live wrestling through drills , but in a controlled manner. Club coaches dream. Probably doesn't translate to college , they should already know how to practice , but he was an awesome clinician.
Yea, the only reason Taylor was worth a crap is because he had long arms...hahahaha. Brands can't teach our guys how to wrestle like he did either. I would trade Morningstar for Taylor in a second.
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I think I might use this line in my next debating class. I think it's a winner.
I'm not saying get rid of M*....... Figure out for yourselves who should drop off. DT would bring a new perspective......I would think recruits would like it as well.
Maybe we should ask JRob how to get more guys on staff.
You'd be better of asking Cael how he manages to get this many top 10 overall recruits (1,3,3,3,3,5,5,7,10) on 9.9 scholarships?
Like I've said before, DT isn't going to be able to teach anyone to have the wingspan of a pterodactyl. The key attribute that DT would bring is his potential recruiting star power.
Actually, for fiscal year 2016, Cael gave out 9.66 schollies. So he's actually doing it for less than the full limit.
Why questionable? No NCAA rules on post-college groups. Hell, nothing but money and love of his homeland could keep an RTC from recruiting Sadulaev to come and coach for a few years after he retires. The NLWC was able to leverage the connections of an ex-coach from Japan to get 2012 Gold Medalist Tatsuhiro Yonomitsu to come over for a few years - not a surprise that Molinaro was able to jump levels with that type of freak talent around. I'd love to see them convince a few Eastern Bloc guys to come over.
Brands had the foresight to pull off the Kinnick Dual - no reason that imagination can't be used to beef up the HWC. He needs to lean on rich Iowa donors and get them to pony up. There's got to be quite a few rich alums in their prime earning years who were at IC during Gable's best years.
Tom needs to contact Jim Harbaugh. He could find a loop hole in anything. Yep, get ahold of slim ball Jim and we'll be in business...A paid assistant to an assistant.??
only chance Iowa has of getting Taylor is if you offer him head coach - no way he leaves PSU for anything less. ride TnT for the next 4 year cycle and see how recruiting last year and next couple classes turn out - if Hawks come up empty then re-evaluate TnT
Ok. Good point.
It's the college recruiting I was meaning to refer to as questionable, your club is not. PSU's club has really solid backing from wealthy donors, and like you mentioned, I wish the HWC could get someone like that as well. Your guy's post college infrastructure is probably the envy of all college programs right now.
You got a gem of a gift with Yonomitsu. I have no doubt that guy has helped your lower middle weight college and senior level guys. I just wish we could bring in someone like that here to give our guys some international feel.
In the Spencer Lee doc, Spencer does allude to the idea that Brands might bring in some Euroepean guys in the future for him to roll with...
