Give me Otzelberger. Yeah I said it.

[Sett1997]

I know we blasted them head to head. He's what you're looking for. Fran is what he is, we aren't going to the next level with him.
ISU may not be either but he has them on track.
He knows the portal, no nepotism, guy is getting it done.
Last year was incredible for what he walked into. This year, ranked 10th and just knocked off Texas.
We need new blood in FB and BB.

 

[Pete Malloy]

I know we blasted them head to head. He's what you're looking for. Fran is what he is, we aren't going to the next level with him.
ISU may not be either but he has them on track.
He knows the portal, no nepotism, guy is getting it done.
Last year was incredible for what he walked into. This year, ranked 10th and just knocked off Texas.
We need new blood in FB and BB.

ISU brings in thugs and one and gone players.

BTW Connor and Patrick are legit.

 

[mro1978]

No kidding but I doubt that's feasible given *sigh* ISU's historically the better basketball school in the state. It's more realistic to go after Darian DeVries.

 

[Ronman]

Well, if you consider that we would have to lose the next twenty games to Moo U to even the record, I guess you could say they have historically been better. I guess just not against us, huh?

 

[perryhawk]

What’s his history with previous coaching stops?

I guess you can have him as your coach right now if you want….just jump to the dark side.

 

[Sett1997]

He achieved something in first year at ISU that Fran hasn't done in his tenure with us. Young and hungry.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

I know we blasted them head to head. He's what you're looking for. Fran is what he is, we aren't going to the next level with him.
ISU may not be either but he has them on track.
He knows the portal, no nepotism, guy is getting it done.
Last year was incredible for what he walked into. This year, ranked 10th and just knocked off Texas.
We need new blood in FB and BB.

We kicked their ass . It's GREAT to be a HAWKEYE !

 

[Hans81]

No kidding but I doubt that's feasible given *sigh* ISU's historically the better basketball school in the state. It's more realistic to go after Darian DeVries.

I would be okay with DeVries as Iowa’s next head coach

 

[IAHawk2011]

Winning is all that matters at the end of the day, but Iowa State plays a very unappealing brand of basketball. Not very fun to watch IMO.

 

[mro1978]

Winning is all that matters at the end of the day, but Iowa State plays a very unappealing brand of basketball. Not very fun to watch IMO.

sweet 16's are fun

 

[iahawks10]

No kidding but I doubt that's feasible given *sigh* ISU's historically the better basketball school in the state. It's more realistic to go after Darian DeVries.

By historically better, you of course mean less Final Fours, less Elite 8’s, less Sweet 16’s, less NCAA Tournament appearances all together, and less regular season conference championships than Iowa?

Or did you mean having .368 winning percentage against Iowa playing head to head? That is some definition of “historically better”.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

No kidding but I doubt that's feasible given *sigh* ISU's historically the better basketball school in the state. It's more realistic to go after Darian DeVries.

Iowa State is not historically better. Unless history began with Todd Lickliter and ended with Fred Hoiberg.

With that said, they’ve managed to go one round further in March than Iowa has a couple times in recent memory. I also like their recruiting and emphasis on defense.

I still think Fran deserves a chance to utilize NIL money to upgrade talent and athleticism. If he can, then Iowa has yet to reach their ceiling with Fran.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

sweet 16's are fun

If they are a springboard to a Final Four, sure. Honestly, I think Iowa fans overhype the Sweet Sixteen because Iowa hasn’t been to one since 1999. Let’s be real: you have to win two games to get to a Sweet Sixteen. I mean, perspective.

 

[TheGuy9]

No kidding but I doubt that's feasible given *sigh* ISU's historically the better basketball school in the state. It's more realistic to go after Darian DeVries.

Not true. Iowa State and Iowa are on par with each other. I went back to 2001-2002 season and Iowa has 11 years where they didn't win 20 games, and ISU has 12. Oh, and Iowa hasn't had a 5-win season in that stretch either.
As for the tournament they have gone 9 times and Iowa has gone 8. They do have a couple sweet 16's in that time but never consecutively. ISU is a rent a player school which does very little for most players but helps the coach keep his job. The immediate gratification crew loves this approach.

 

[ISUBryceC]

By historically better, you of course mean less Final Fours, less Elite 8’s, less Sweet 16’s, less NCAA Tournament appearances all together, and less regular season conference championships than Iowa?

Or did you mean having .368 winning percentage against Iowa playing head to head? That is some definition of “historically better”.

Most of those accomplishments happened before any player on Iowa was born. Historically Iowa is better, it just happens to be ancient history at this point.

 

[iahawks10]

Most of those accomplishments happened before any player on Iowa was born. Historically Iowa is better, it just happens to be ancient history at this point.

Like “historically”?

 

[ISUBryceC]

Like “historically”?

Yes, but the point is that when you get far enough in the past, accomplishments stop being meaningful beyond trivia.

 

[Steamboat529529]

Iowa State has been a better basketball program than us the past two decades (or since the turn of the century) and it’s not even close or debatable. Unfortunately.

 

[Bro D]

Wears shmedium shirts.. pass

 

[K OKeefe]

He achieved something in first year at ISU that Fran hasn't done in his tenure with us. Young and hungry.

Something that Fran has not been able to accomplish in his career.

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

I know we blasted them head to head. He's what you're looking for. Fran is what he is, we aren't going to the next level with him.
ISU may not be either but he has them on track.
He knows the portal, no nepotism, guy is getting it done.
Last year was incredible for what he walked into. This year, ranked 10th and just knocked off Texas.
We need new blood in FB and BB.

 

[Rifler]

I know we blasted them head to head. He's what you're looking for. Fran is what he is, we aren't going to the next level with him.
ISU may not be either but he has them on track.
He knows the portal, no nepotism, guy is getting it done.
Last year was incredible for what he walked into. This year, ranked 10th and just knocked off Texas.
We need new blood in FB and BB.

I think the easiest way to navigate this transition is for you to become a Cyclone fan,.. so off to the clowns with you then.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Ahhh, I remember when we fired Davis and Alford took us to “the next level.” Good memories.

 

[Iafootballfan]

Winning is all that matters at the end of the day, but Iowa State plays a very unappealing brand of basketball. Not very fun to watch IMO.

Do you enjoy watching the Iowa football brand? Honest question.

 

[EZ2BJZ]

Iowa State has been a better basketball program than us the past two decades (or since the turn of the century) and it’s not even close or debatable. Unfortunately.

The facts don’t support the belief “it’s not close.” It is.

 

[HawkHoops80]

Do you enjoy watching the Iowa football brand? Honest question.

I know you didn't ask me, but personally no. I've pretty much stopped watching college football entirely. I realize I'm in the minority here on that though.

 

[millhawk]

Do you enjoy watching the Iowa football brand? Honest question.

I like going to bowl games.

 

[BrewHawk]

By historically better, you of course mean less Final Fours, less Elite 8’s, less Sweet 16’s, less NCAA Tournament appearances all together, and less regular season conference championships than Iowa?

Or did you mean having .368 winning percentage against Iowa playing head to head? That is some definition of “historically better”.

You sound just like a Nebraska football fan.

 

[jonesy5960]

Winning is all that matters at the end of the day, but Iowa State plays a very unappealing brand of basketball. Not very fun to watch IMO.

So they're basically the equivalent of Iowa football.

 

[ghostpony]

Winning is all that matters at the end of the day, but Iowa State plays a very unappealing brand of basketball. Not very fun to watch IMO.

The Germans have a word for it:
Häckgrabbenflop

 

[hawkeyekid]

Most of those accomplishments happened before any player on Iowa was born. Historically Iowa is better, it just happens to be ancient history at this point.

It's like Minnesota in football saying that, historically, they are better.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Most of those accomplishments happened before any player on Iowa was born. Historically Iowa is better, it just happens to be ancient history at this point.

Well regardless,

Iowa > Iowa State

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

It's like Minnesota in football saying that, historically, they are better.

Not really......

 

[HawkGem10]

If they are a springboard to a Final Four, sure. Honestly, I think Iowa fans overhype the Sweet Sixteen because Iowa hasn’t been to one since 1999. Let’s be real: you have to win two games to get to a Sweet Sixteen. I mean, perspective.

And Yet Fran still hasn't figured out how to do that...he is just that pathetic.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I know you didn't ask me, but personally no. I've pretty much stopped watching college football entirely. I realize I'm in the minority here on that though.

For me, Iowa football has been pretty "meh" since the 2009 Orange Bowl win. 8-4 give or take almost every year, and they are pretty dull doing it. If they were winning 11-12 games a year with this style, and were a legit national contender, I wouldn't care if the style is "boring".

Bottom line, my choice would be wins over style, and Iowa doesn't win at a high level. They're just OK vast majority of years.

Wisconsin made a couple of Final Fours the past decade. Yet they play "boring". If anybody says they wouldn't have taken that here at Iowa, and would rather lose playing up tempo, I wouldn't believe you.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Yes, but the point is that when you get far enough in the past, accomplishments stop being meaningful beyond trivia.

Ahhh it’s good to know that Clone fans determine when results matter.

 

[ISUBryceC]

It's like Minnesota in football saying that, historically, they are better.

Ahhh it’s good to know that Clone fans determine when results matter.

Minnesota is the perfect example. Historically, they are as good a program when it comes to national championships as any. I'm not saying when things stop mattering, that'll depend on a lot of factors, mostly the age of the people in the conversation and their fan allegiances. But at some point, Minnesota winning 6 national championships in football just isn't significant in the modern day.

 

[ISUBryceC]

Not really......

6 national titles and 6 more conference titles than Iowa doesn't do it for you?

 

[jonesy5960]

Yes, but the point is that when you get far enough in the past, accomplishments stop being meaningful beyond trivia.

I agree. Results that occurred prior to the current crop of players being born pretty much cease becoming relevant to everyone except sports historians and Uncle Rico types.

 

[TampaHawkfan]

I agree. Results that occurred prior to the current crop of players being born pretty much cease becoming relevant to everyone except sports historians and Uncle Rico types.

Agreed. Nebraska football has pretty much ceased to become relevant as well. Not sure they're ever getting back to what they had, either. The 1980s and 1990s don't mean much in the 2020s.