If he were 6’7 the 4 would be a possibility.
Glad to beat Pissconsin, BUT
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If he were 6’7 the 4 would be a possibility.
I think Fran just doesn’t have the trust factor there yet for JT.
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That much is clear. Fran is who he is. We'll have to wait until next year to find out if Joe T can be a contributor. I'll just hope that the rest of the lineup can make up for Jordan's deficiencies for 35 minutes per game.
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That much is clear. Fran is who he is. We'll have to wait until next year to find out if Joe T can be a contributor. I'll just hope that the rest of the lineup can make up for Jordan's deficiencies for 35 minutes per game.
Is it me or is Jbo playing much better defense the past few games? Seems he's turned it up a few notches from what I've seen.
I agree, it was definitely a poor decision. But i dont think it was enough to warrant putting him on the bench the rest of the game. He was playing well, under control, good defense. Jbo was providing....well not much that i could tell, maybe a steadying presence? Look i am not saying bench jbo and play JoeT 30mpg, but it would be nice to get him 10-15.
Those that resulted in 5 straight offensive rebounds that weren’t 15 feet out. Potter got 3 of them under the basket.
Thats a fair criticism.
Im so so on Toussaint at best.
I'd be happy if Ulis was getting 15 to 20 a game.
Playing without a real pg on the floor is difficult against good defensive teams.
Exactly right. If Wisconsin wasn't such a bad offensive team, that second half could have looked a lot different.
The plus side is Iowa has been more active on the defensive end these past two games, which is encouraging to see.
I like Ulis, too. Plays under control and does his job as PG. I think he will look to score more in the future.
He has. The whole team is playing much better now that they aren't being forced to play that stupid zone.
Yes. Both MSU and UW shot horribly from 3, wide open or not. We'll see what happens when Iowa plays OSU and Michigan because those are the types of teams Iowa needs to beat if they have dreams of getting past the Sweet Sixteen.
Iowa’s turnover margin was also uncharacteristic. 11-4 in favor of Wisconsin from what I’m seeing and 70 FGA from Wisconsin to 51 from Iowa, with only a difference of 7 free throws. The scoring margin could have theoretically been a lot wider too
Im afraid Fran may have made a mistake by not giving him a chance to compete for the back up job early.
Hes got the ability to blow by and the decision making to go with it.
I wouldn’t say wisc shot the 3 horribly tonight, most of the game they shot pretty well. Then they hit a point in the 2nd half, i think starting when they missed like 5 on the 1 possession, after that couldn’t buy 1.
This is actually a really good point. I had similar thoughts at the time, and I think Joe T. is pressing too hard to try to make the spectacular play instead of the right one. That's why he's so helter skelter with the ball, trying to get noticed and earn more PT. I think if Fran would try to instill more confidence in him instead of keeping him on the short leash, we might see Joe T slow down and let the game come to him. The game he had against MSU at home is a great case in point.
Sorry if this has already been covered ad nauseum, but despite Vitale's attempt to whitewash the cheap shot Davison made to CJ's mouth with his head late in the game, it WAS a cheap shot by design. Davison was driving to the hoop and likely would have scored despite CJ's defense, but in order to be able to hit CJ in the mouth, that POS punk had to arch his back and shoulder in a way that actually made his shot significantly MORE DIFFICULT. I can't think of another present-day Big Ten Big Ten player who has committed as many cheap shots as this prick bastard has.
It's primarily Davison's fault, but this has happened so often that Greg Gard, whom* I've previously thought of as a decent guy, has to accept some of the responsibility for this repeated BS.
*Grammar check welcome, and EFF WISCONSIN.
PS, my bad--when I saw the play again after the game, it wasn't Davison's head that hit CJ in the mouth, but rather an even MORE OBVIOUS cheap shot by way of his shoulder/elbow. Again, his decision to take the cheap shot at CJ also cost the dumbass an easy layup.
It's primarily Davison's fault, but this has happened so often that Greg Gard, whom* I've previously thought of as a decent guy, has to accept some of the responsibility for this repeated BS.
*Grammar check welcome, and EFF WISCONSIN.
PS, my bad--when I saw the play again after the game, it wasn't Davison's head that hit CJ in the mouth, but rather an even MORE OBVIOUS cheap shot by way of his shoulder/elbow. Again, his decision to take the cheap shot at CJ also cost the dumbass an easy layup.
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I agree, but Fran wants to give CMAC 25 min per game because he favors his son and Iowa can't defend/rebound with undersized CMAC at PF so Keegan needs minutes at PF. That means big minutes for CMAC at guard. Keegan had 11 defensive rebounds vs Wisconsin in 22 min....his size/quickness/defense is key, so he deserve his minutes.
There was an analysis showing JoeT+JBO together was effective lineup, but it is rarely used. JoeT only had 4 min...less than he should have...but Fran does Fran things. As long as they win, I don't mind. They need to close strong.
More than happy to criticize after a win, because it's the same people who, after a 1 point win, will glorify it & will criticize unabashed had the one shot not fallen.
They were 13 of 34 including Davison's second half hot streak. 38 percent is okay. But they missed a lot of open 3s. I'd like Joe W to get the same 34 looks as UW had in any stretch of games. I mean they were WIDE open!
Totally agree. He’s been moving his feet much better lately . Staying in front of his player. Big improvement
Yes, I thought it was intentional and it wasn't reviewed as far as I could tell. However, Garza got Potter with an elbow next play, so they didn't review that either because they let Davison get away with his elbow.
You brought him up in the discussion is all. Again, I'm pumped about Ullis and Joe T.
Right. In a loss, I try to keep the bigger picture in focus, which is that this team is very capable of making a deep run in March, especially if they maintain the defensive energy they've been showing as of late.
I would like to see Joe T get a FEW more minutes, but that's it.
I really think you need to look at this from a more holistic viewpoint. Garza had 8 against MSU and 30 tonight. Why did that happen? A big reason is that for huge chunks of the game Iowa had 3 deadly shooters in the game with Garza. That makes it a lot harder to drop down and help on defense. And tonight JBo was adequate (if not pretty good) on defense, with Trice only getting 11
I really think you need to look at this from a more holistic viewpoint. Garza had 8 against MSU and 30 tonight. Why did that happen? A big reason is that for huge chunks of the game Iowa had 3 deadly shooters in the game with Garza. That makes it a lot harder to drop down and help on defense. And tonight JBo was adequate (if not pretty good) on defense, with Trice only getting 11
I'm excited about what we have coming back, I personally think it will be a fun ride overall.
Take out the 0-5 on that 1 possession and it’s 13-29. That’s pretty solid. Pretty sure iowa shoots like 39% on the yr? I agree they missed plenty of wide open 3’s but they also made a fair amount with a hand in their face.
If JBo can defend like that consistently, I'll feel a little better with him at point. Trice is not an easy cover.
There is merit to the argument of him stretching the floor, I just wish we had a point guard who can break guys down off the dribble without turning it over. Against athletic teams, Iowa's offense can get stagnant with JBo at the point, especially when 3s aren't falling.
I'm not a fan of Joe T., but even I would agree with this, especially as invisible as JBo was for most of the game.
Agree with others who say we were fortunate to be playing a team that can't shoot. I don't know how many turnovers we ended up with, but man were they of the bonehead variety. Right up to the last few minutes this game felt like a loss was coming, and lead 99% of the game. Glad Weiskamp has found where the green light was hidden. Kid was great again.
I don't play, but let us know how it works out for you. 😉
Why do you think I hate Fran?
I've always rated him an A+ coach when it comes to offense and getting the most out of the talent he has. I, like many others, am critical of his teams' defensive issues and wish he could for once land a dynamic playmaker at point. Point guard play has kept a lot of his good teams from becoming great.
But I don't feel I hate him. I'd take him over Alfraud and Lick in a heartbeat. Maybe even Dr. Tom.
A few weeks ago I got the feeling you were done with him. My bad if I read it wrong was a bit busy
