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No you would be the one opening your wallet to the anti-gun lobby every time they say so.
You shouldn't have gotten involved in this conversation Tex. Now, you're going to get you nut busted. The gun lobby crushes the anti-gun lobby when it comes to spending. Clearly there are a lot more rubes on the pro-gun side:

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In order for your "shall not be infringed" argument to hold up, you would have to be opposed to ANY limits on speech. You're not.

I disagree with most of the limits the Supreme Court has invented over the years.

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From this thread, I'm guessing you've gotten very little training. The first thing they teach you in gun safety courses is to make sure your gun is secured at all times because it is a lethal weapon. You've ignored this. You've said no harm can come from leaving your gun out on the counter and you refuse to admit that guns are designed to destroy whatever is put in front of them. Any good gun safety instructor would have flunked you.
LOL. continue with your ignorance.

Right now, it's just a hunk of metal and wood. It just looks scary to an anti gunner like you. Like I said, your boy could play with it for a week straight. Even if I gave him shells that go to it and he wouldn't be in any danger.

Now, would I let your kid do that? Nope. I wouldn't want the little puke touching my gun.

But I can promise you, after a week with me, he would have much more knowledge and respect for firearms than his leftist, anti gun, father. I might even take the little guy hunting with me. Just to piss you off.

My whole point here isn't that I generally leave guns lie around, my point is, that a gun is an inanimate object that is no more capable of killing anyone than my tv set.
 
You shouldn't have gotten involved in this conversation Tex. Now, you're going to get you nut busted. The gun lobby crushes the anti-gun lobby when it comes to spending. Clearly there are a lot more rubes on the pro-gun side:

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Of which I am sure you are one on the anti-gun side. Not my fault you are not rich enough.
 
Joni disagrees. She thinks her "beautiful little 9 mm" is more than enough to take down the military. Which is quite sad considering that she is a vet. You would think she would have more confidence in her fellow service members to not be taken out by a pocket gun.

Our military couldn't even defeat the Taliban. You really think they're going to defeat hundreds of millions of gun-toting patriots? Most of the military would join the rebellion.
 
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You shouldn't have gotten involved in this conversation Tex. Now, you're going to get you nut busted. The gun lobby crushes the anti-gun lobby when it comes to spending. Clearly there are a lot more rubes on the pro-gun side:

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Maybe it shows how little support anti gun people have. That it's mostly a fringe, leftist, cult thing. So maybe you guys need to just STFU.??

I'm sure you'll site some bogusly worded poll that you conclude says "Americans want more gun control". and I could find something showing just the opposite.
 
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to be excessively concerned with or critical of inconsequential details.
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a carping, petty criticism.
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So you do understand that "shall not be infringed" can't be taken literally? Shoulda said so.
 
The gun industry is worth $30 billion a year, which is astounding. Astounding because guns are durable goods. They aren't used up instantly and have to be replaced daily like cigarettes. They will last year after year after year. A few guns could last a lifetime. And yet the gun industry is still doing $30 billion worth of business each year. That's a whole lot of people getting suckered into buying a whole lot of guns they don't need simply to prop up the gun industry.

You guys want to waste your money on guns, have at it. But keep in mind that they have a vested financial interest in convincing you that you need more guns.
 
The gun industry is worth $30 billion a year, which is astounding. Astounding because guns are durable goods. They aren't used up instantly and have to be replaced daily like cigarettes. They will last year after year after year. A few guns could last a lifetime. And yet the gun industry is still doing $30 billion worth of business each year. That's a whole lot of people getting suckered into buying a whole lot of guns they don't need simply to prop up the gun industry.

You guys want to waste your money on guns, have at it. But keep in mind that they have a vested financial interest in convincing you that you need more guns.
Thanks Obama
 
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The gun industry is worth $30 billion a year, which is astounding. Astounding because guns are durable goods. They aren't used up instantly and have to be replaced daily like cigarettes. They will last year after year after year. A few guns could last a lifetime. And yet the gun industry is still doing $30 billion worth of business each year. That's a whole lot of people getting suckered into buying a whole lot of guns they don't need simply to prop up the gun industry.

You guys want to waste your money on guns, have at it. But keep in mind that they have a vested financial interest in convincing you that you need more guns.
Thanks Obama!

What would we do with out guys like you to educate us on how we are being duped in to buying guns?
 
Maybe it shows how little support anti gun people have. That it's mostly a fringe, leftist, cult thing. So maybe you guys need to just STFU.??

I'm sure you'll site some bogusly worded poll that you conclude says "Americans want more gun control". and I could find something showing just the opposite.
Kind of missing the point, icu. The point is that they gun industry lobbies the hell out of Washington to make sure they can keep people addicted to their product. You don't do $30 billion worth of business each year and not have a strong incentive to keep people convinced they need to keep buying guns.
 
My family could probably buy votes all over, but we aren't gun crazy cowboys. Being rich has nothing to do with it, being noble and decent does.
Wait, just because you don't like guns, you don't think most gun owners are "noble and decent"?

You are a special kind of moron.
 
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So you do understand that "shall not be infringed" can't be taken literally? Shoulda said so.

I do think slander is rightfully restricted, because it's intended to falsely defame someone. You don't get to use your speech as a weapon to harm others unless you speak the truth.
 
Oh my god, do you listen to yourself? Guns were designed to kill. If they were designed to scare they would have noise makers and startling lights like a Halloween thing.

They are made to kill, plain and simple. By not even admitting that, you gun owners are setting yourself up to have guns banned outright. People don't trust gun owners and I hate to say it to you but the country is more in favor of NO guns.

You should read the constitution. Your ignorance on the 1st and 2nd amendments is astonishing
 
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Wait, just because you don't like guns, you don't think most gun owners are "noble and decent"?

You are a special kind of moron.
Gun owners like you sure aren't decent. You're ok with kids playing with guns.
 
Kind of missing the point, icu. The point is that they gun industry lobbies the hell out of Washington to make sure they can keep people addicted to their product. You don't do $30 billion worth of business each year and not have a strong incentive to keep people convinced they need to keep buying guns.

You mean like how democrats have lied to and convinced poor people that Democrats are the only ones looking out for them? How they are trying to use this fake "war on women" to try and get the vote of women?

You mean like how liberals believe the government is the answer to everything and Republicans are evil and only want to help the rich?

You are pretty pathetic,

People like you and Trevor and dishonest and corrupt politicians like Obama are the only ones convincing us we need to keep buying guns. Wow you are thick. Wait, I take that back, you actually do have a small bit of intelligence. You are just extremely dishonest, slimy and manipulative. BAU for liberalism
 
Gun owners like you sure aren't decent. You're ok with kids playing with guns.
Reading is hard for you, isn't it?

Go back and read. I never said I was ok with kids playing with guns (although as I get to know more about you, it might be advisable for you to allow yours to) I said the opposite. I was proving a point to you that your kid COULD play with my gun as much as he liked and nothing would happen to him.

Of course, you are dishonest and a partisan hack so BAU
 
You mean like how democrats have lied to and convinced poor people that Democrats are the only ones looking out for them? How they are trying to use this fake "war on women" to try and get the vote of women?

You mean like how liberals believe the government is the answer to everything and Republicans are evil and only want to help the rich?

You are pretty pathetic,

People like you and Trevor and dishonest and corrupt politicians like Obama are the only ones convincing us we need to keep buying guns. Wow you are thick. Wait, I take that back, you actually do have a small bit of intelligence. You are just extremely dishonest, slimy and manipulative. BAU for liberalism
Considering that Republicans want to take away educational opportunities for poor people, lower their wages, reduce their access to healthcare, and tax them more, it hasn't taken as much convincing as you think to get me to vote Democratic.

And Republicans aren't evil. But they sure are lazy. Their solution to everything is to let the market figure it out. You want to real welfare queens. Check out the Republican Congress. Guys want to pick up a paycheck for sitting on their dicks all day long.
 
The gun industry is worth $30 billion a year, which is astounding. Astounding because guns are durable goods. They aren't used up instantly and have to be replaced daily like cigarettes. They will last year after year after year. A few guns could last a lifetime. And yet the gun industry is still doing $30 billion worth of business each year. That's a whole lot of people getting suckered into buying a whole lot of guns they don't need simply to prop up the gun industry.

You guys want to waste your money on guns, have at it. But keep in mind that they have a vested financial interest in convincing you that you need more guns.

You're right, I don't need my guns. I want my guns, and the Constitution gives me the right to own them. I've never been "suckered" into buying a gun and I sure haven't given one damn iota of thought to the gun industry when buying one. I'd ask if you have ever purchased something you didn't really need, but I suppose that welfare check only provides for the bare necessities.
 
Considering that Republicans want to take away educational opportunities for poor people, lower their wages, reduce their access to healthcare, and tax them more, it hasn't taken as much convincing as you think to get me to vote Democratic.

And Republicans aren't evil. But they sure are lazy. Their solution to everything is to let the market figure it out. You want to real welfare queens. Check out the Republican Congress. Guys want to pick up a paycheck for sitting on their dicks all day long.
It's laughable that you believe all of that and spout it as true. Of course you WANT it to be true. You NEED it to be true. Otherwise, your leftist agenda falls completely apart.
 
So says you. It is pretty damn clear to most of us and it works just fine.
Nearly every SCOTUS ruling over the 2nd has been a split vote. That doesn't signify clarity to me. And we have 32,000 gun deaths each year. It's not working fine.
 
You're right, I don't need my guns. I want my guns, and the Constitution gives me the right to own them. I've never been "suckered" into buying a gun and I sure haven't given one damn iota of thought to the gun industry when buying one. I'd ask if you have ever purchased something you didn't really need, but I suppose that welfare check only provides for the bare necessities.
Sorry dude. Chances are you've been suckered into forking over your hard earned money because they gun lobby wants you to. They don't make $30 billion a year by simply letting people make up their own minds. Just thought I'd open you eyes a bit today.
 
What, you don't like free speech?
I love free speech. I didn't say I was going to MAKE him shut up or that I was going to prevent him from talking. That's what liberals try to do all the time.

I said "maybe he should STFU".

See, there's a big difference between suggesting and trying to eliminate free speech, but that's a different thread.
 
It's laughable that you believe all of that and spout it as true. Of course you WANT it to be true. You NEED it to be true. Otherwise, your leftist agenda falls completely apart.
So you deny the Republican effort to suppress the minimum wage, allow lenders to charge interest while students are still in school, force poor people to get some skin in the game by raising their taxes, and taking away healthcare access. What world are you living in? All these things are indisputable.
 
I love free speech. I didn't say I was going to MAKE him shut up or that I was going to prevent him from talking. That's what liberals try to do all the time.

I said "maybe he should STFU".

See, there's a big difference between suggesting and trying to eliminate free speech, but that's a different thread.
Just kinda messing with ya. Fact is there are folks on the left who are always going to try and make themselves heard on the gun issue while folks on the right are always going to do the same with say, gay marriage. Saying STFU is a waste of time.
 
Our military couldn't even defeat the Taliban. You really think they're going to defeat hundreds of millions of gun-toting patriots? Most of the military would join the rebellion.
If the Oregon ranchers are any example, they would piss the revolution right down their pants. And the military will follow orders just as they always have. Or do you not understand how the military works?
 
Nearly every SCOTUS ruling over the 2nd has been a split vote. That doesn't signify clarity to me. And we have 32,000 gun deaths each year. It's not working fine.
LOL. Yeah, and Obama is a "constitutional professor", all that shows is that liberals are agenda driven.


Of those 32,000 gun deaths, 21,000 of them are suicide. The guns are not the problem. spend your time on mental health. (for yourself too)
 
LOL. Yeah, and Obama is a "constitutional professor", all that shows is that liberals are agenda driven.


Of those 32,000 gun deaths, 21,000 of them are suicide. The guns are not the problem. spend your time on mental health. (for yourself too)
What the hell does Obama have to do with this? Many of these split decisions were made before Obama was even born. Pick up a book, for chrissake. And I'll grant you the 21,000. Does it really make it any more palatable arguing that 11,000 deaths a year is nothing to worry about?
 
Sorry dude. Chances are you've been suckered into forking over your hard earned money because they gun lobby wants you to. They don't make $30 billion a year by simply letting people make up their own minds. Just thought I'd open you eyes a bit today.
Again, you spend more time and effort on politics and agenda than anyone I have ever seen.

I am willing to bet a months salary that you worked on liberal campaigns in the last few elections. You may even work full time in some sort of leftist lobby.

Hilarious you talk about someone not "simply letting people make up their own minds". Liberalism requires that in order for their agenda to work. I've never seen a group of people less willing to think for themselves and listen to other opinions than liberals. It's actually quite scary. Especially when they lie to your face and tell you they "get their information from both sides".

You are the epitome of the disgusting liberal, agenda driven, social justice warrior mentality.
 
2nd is outdated and not clear to start with. Why should we still pay it heed?

Because we are required to abide by our constitution even if it's stupid or outmoded. The alternative is a food fight.

BTW, if we abolished the 2d Amendment that might not be a bad deal. NY, IL, CA, and the groovy places could ban guns and the rest of us could live in IA, MT, ID, TX, etc.
 
Again, you spend more time and effort on politics and agenda than anyone I have ever seen.

I am willing to bet a months salary that you worked on liberal campaigns in the last few elections. You may even work full time in some sort of leftist lobby.

Hilarious you talk about someone not "simply letting people make up their own minds". Liberalism requires that in order for their agenda to work. I've never seen a group of people less willing to think for themselves and listen to other opinions than liberals. It's actually quite scary. Especially when they lie to your face and tell you they "get their information from both sides".

You are the epitome of the disgusting liberal, agenda driven, social justice warrior mentality.
You've gone from a gun control debate to a general bitch-fest about me and liberals. Congrats. I assume this is you white flag that you lost the gun conversation.
 
So you deny the Republican effort to suppress the minimum wage, allow lenders to charge interest while students are still in school, force poor people to get some skin in the game by raising their taxes, and taking away healthcare access. What world are you living in? All these things are indisputable.
Let's not derail this conversation by going elsewhere but the simple premise of those items is a joke,

"suppress the minimum wage" as if R's hate poor people!!! Ridiculous. but that is the message you want to send and you do send. It works too. Most R's want to ELIMINATE the minimum wage. it sets a false baseline that IMO actually holds them down. But hey, how can we talk common sense when the left refuses to even acknowledge how stupid jumping to a $15 minimum wage is and what that does to the prices of everything. It's just dumb.

"taking away health care access" just ****ing stupid liberal talking points designed to confuse uninformed people.

anyway, stay on guns for now. You are already getting your ass kicked there, so let's not derail this.
 
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Sorry dude. Chances are you've been suckered into forking over your hard earned money because they gun lobby wants you to. They don't make $30 billion a year by simply letting people make up their own minds. Just thought I'd open you eyes a bit today.

Damn, now you're so smart you know better than I do why I make the decisions I do. Those gun lobby people must be genius in getting into my head when I don't even subscribe to any of their publications.

What my wide open eyes see is a political hack who does nothing but parrot left wing propaganda. Just thought I'd open your eyes (not "you eyes" BTW) a bit today.
 
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