I know, sorry about an ISU thread. It seems like destiny that Fred Hoiberg is going to return to ISU though. Thoughts?
Hoiberg back to ISU?
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he belongs in Ames
basketball is more fun when Iowa State is great.
I'm hoping the change takes place at the end of this season.
basketball is more fun when Iowa State is great.
I'm hoping the change takes place at the end of this season.
I did not realize that Fred has had 2 open heart surgeries and was not well when he got covid recently.
No info whatsoever. But, with Prohm and Hoiberg both struggling mightily at their current gigs, it wouldn't be surprising if they're both fired soon.
Probably best to give up coaching then. Way to young for 2 heart surgeries.
He’s actually been stealing money for awhile. 115-155 in the NBA and now 11-33 at Nebraska and I see no short term way he’s even close to sneaking out of the bottom of the Big Ten. I’m not convinced the guy can coach at all. Hope he does go back to Iowa State. Good luck.
Read he was born with arrhythmia or something. It's why he had to quit playing in the NBA
Lol. Hoiberg is in year two.
Yeah, I was shocked he came back to coach college as much as he hates recruiting. The stress can't be good for his heart either.
Yes but Nebby doesn't seem to be patient with coaches not named Frost. They, and ISU, are really falling on some tough seasons.
He’s 2-22 in the Big Ten. 11-33 overall. Todd Lickliter won significantly more games than that and he lasted three years at Iowa.
Hoiberg isn't going to get fired this season. Covid will give him another year.. Even Nebbie isn't that stupid.
well wait.....
Not sure they are at a resource disadvantage. Creighton plays in a larger and much newer arena than Iowa plays in.
They rent that.Not sure they are at a resource disadvantage. Creighton plays in a larger and much newer arena than Iowa plays in.
LOL, one of these athletic depts brings in over $130M in revenue a year and the other brings in around $15M, guess which is which.
I hate defending Hoiberg, but his next class has a 5 star and a 4 star guy coming in, not to mention any transfers he'll likely land. He has time.
I'm skeptical about how good of a coach he really is. While I feel he is vastly superior to Prohm, Hoiberg was able to get in very early onto the transfer bandwagon and was able to get talent to ISU that otherwise would not have ended up there. Now everyone has tapped into the transfer market and those guys end up at blue bloods not ISU. He has gotten a couple highly ranked guys coming in next year so we will see if he can turn it around.
Fred caught lightning in a bottle at Iowa State with the transfers and created the blueprint. Now a lot of schools do it. Iowa State got some very good transfers under Fred
You forget he had them as one of the top offensive teams in the country year after year once they got there as well. On top of that he clearly was an extremely good salesmen, which are the two major facets of being a great coach, selling them on your program and knowing how to use them once you get them there. He turned them from trash (4 straight losing years) to a top 20 program overnight and kept them there. To not be sold on what he did there is laughable.
I am fully aware of that but that doesn't stop then from slowly becoming Gonzaga of the midwest.
Doubtful,. I suspect they never get past the stigma of being located in Omaha...
The fact he signed the 3rd rated class in the B1G at Nebraska makes your above theory completely ridiculous. He just signed a 5 star from 2000 miles away, doing that is orders of magnitudes harder than signing good transfers. Why do you think Fran has never done this in his career and Fred is immediately doing it at a trash program that is easily one of the worst Power 5 jobs?
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I would never take Fred Hoiberg lightly. Nebraska will be a tough out in the near future I believe.
Iowa seems to be in good shape right now, but if Fran were to leave, retire, for whatever the reason, I'd take Hoiberg in Iowa City in a nanosecond. He clearly doesn't have any players currently, but he will eventually get there IMO. Then game on.
Look, they’re 0-5 this year in the league. He will be lucky to win 2 league games. So then he’s on to year 3, probably with another complete roster rebuild like he’s done the previous 2 years. 5 star players in most cases are elite, 1 year guys. If, and big if, Fred can build a roster that has a little bit of a foundation he MIGHT be able to win in 2-3 years. The college game seems to be turning a bit. Older, more experienced teams like Iowa, Drake, and others are doing well while the Kentucky’s, Dukes, etc are struggling. I’m in the camp that Fred will never see the upper half of the league at Nebraska. Want to take me up on that Chidoc?
Fran inherited possibly the worst Power 5 team in the country when he took over. In his 2nd year he was 18-17 and 8-10 in the league. 25-13 and 9-9 the 3rd year. He’s won 20 games and made the tournament almost every year since. I don’t think Fran is an elite coach, but he’s done good things at Iowa. Hoiberg didn’t inherit anything worse than Fran and might not win a conference game this year. If he can get recruits to actually stay and play together 3-4 years then I will care.
Lick never had a class with a 5* and 4* that's rated 3rd in bten coming to campus, and these 2 years are about the toughest 2 years a new bten coach could have with historic league depth. Nebby knows no one better is coming so I'm willing to bet they give him ample time. Lame wondering out loud thread title but isu fans have said they don't think he'd go back to Ames. We shall see
You could be right but finishing 8-9th most years and being a regular bubble team would probably make him pretty popular at that school
Well sure if he could get there. He’s dead last. 2 years running. COVID or no COVID. So he’s got a 4 star and a 5 star coming in. My point being if you turn your entire roster over every year it’s almost impossible to move ahead unless he gets 5 players that are all 4-5 stars. All I’m saying is let’s see him build a roster 3-4 years down the road. Again, Fran turned around the worst power 5 team and got us to 25 wins in 3 years.
One also doesn't have the expense of football and a bunch of other sports either. Creighton, being in the Big East, will want for nothing in basketball.
Hoiberg is a great coach, but he really made hay w TJ O on his staff while at ISU. With that said, he’s still pulling recruits and transfers at Neb. Wouldn’t be shocked to see them win 20+ real soon.
That five star is coming to play with his brother, who came to Nebraska last year, via...................................transfer. I'm guessing by the end of a mediocre season next year, they are both gone to the NBA.
