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Hoiberg said he would have made lots of $$ as a player if he'd gotten paid; DJ Carton Impact?

You think all of those schools are going to suddenly change their requirements for admission?

Several have already. Some could add a backdoor just like USC, Michigan, etc. Plus there are a lot of smart athletes out there. Thousands more than before. Discipline in the classroom & working out is the key... Much more so than 25-30+ years ago when rocks for brains could slide through college....

Not saying it doesn't happen now (UNC, Kentucky), but student athletes are on another level than they used to be. Just as their conditioning and strength are nowhere near what they used to be.... Iowa had an offensive guard starting at 218lbs in Hayden's first Rose Bowl.... And Kirby Criswell somehow got through school at Kansas to go pro, only to be the first player booted from the NFL for 'roids. There was very little between the ears.
 
Harbaugh said today he would support players being able to go pro at any age, then if they did not like their draft slot be able to come back to college.
But if in college go by NCAA rules. Sounds fair to me.
 
And here is a FREE story that Mark Emmert (of the Des Moines Register) wrote that appeared in USA Today.

If college athletes could profit off their marketability, how much would they be worth? In some cases, millions

Mark Emmert, USA TODAY
Published 3:13 p.m. ET Oct. 9, 2019 | Updated 3:24 p.m. ET Oct. 9, 2019

Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence has a national championship to his name.

He could have a million dollars or more in his bank account, too.

That could have been the superstar sophomore's reality if college athletes were able to sell their image on the open marketplace, experts in the economics of sports suggest.

That’s not allowed now under NCAA rules that restrict what athletes can earn. But America is drawing closer to an era in which college athletes will be able to turn themselves into commercial ventures, and big stars like Lawrence stand to benefit the most — perhaps with endorsement deals that would pay them more than a million dollars.

But they won’t be the only ones. Experts foresee a range of potential winners:

  • Hometown college sports stars at Power Five schools being able to pocket $25,000 a year from local businesses.
  • Female athletes who don’t have the option of professional sports being able to profit for the first time from their four years in the collegiate spotlight.
  • Video game enthusiasts who have spent six years mourning the loss of EA Sports’ popular NCAA Football game getting a chance to play once again, with a cut of the money spent being divided among thousands of college players depicted in the game.
“It’s all going to depend on the marketability of the athlete,” said Ricky Volante, an attorney who represents athletes and entertainers who has studied this issue. “You could see the potential for athletes to have promotional deals both where they’re playing and where they came from.

“College sports markets are very different than professional sports markets. You put a basketball player in Lexington, Kentucky, or a football player in Birmingham, Alabama, and now all of the sudden they’re in one of the biggest college sports markets. If you remove those restrictions and allow boosters to give them endorsement deals, you could certainly see athletes bringing in a substantial amount of money through names, images and likenesses rights.”

SEISMIC CHANGE: Recruiting will shift if endorsements come to college sports

California recently became the first state to pass legislation allowing college athletes to accept money for the use of their names, image and likeness, beginning in 2023. Other states are discussing similar laws, and multiple U.S. congressmen are looking at a federal bill. Meanwhile, the NCAA has a task force that will make its recommendation on allowing endorsements by the end of this month.

With this discussion intensifying, USA TODAY Sports talked with a range of experts to determine what sort of value colleges would have on an open market.

How much could college stars earn?
There’s no question the biggest stars in football and men’s basketball stand to earn the most. Those are the rare college athletes who would attract national advertising deals from sporting good suppliers and soft drink companies.

Lawrence, the quarterback who led Clemson to a national championship as a freshman last season, is viewed as a once-in-a-generation talent. Tye Gonser, a lawyer who once worked with an agency that handled endorsement deals for athletes such as Reggie Bush, has no doubt that Lawrence, if he were allowed to now, would have four national ad campaigns worth $250,000 apiece. Oklahoma quarterback Jalen Hurts, one of the top Heisman contenders this fall, would have similar appeal. A Heisman-winning quarterback like Lamar Jackson, who played at Louisville, could have parlayed that into a seven-figure income before heading to the NFL.

Zion Williamson, a basketball phenom who had 69.4 million views of his YouTube highlights before playing at Duke last year, could have made $2.5 million in his lone collegiate season, Gonser estimated.

But those are the outliers.

"A small number of athletes would get a healthy amount of money from national deals and national brands — things we think of as endorsements when you look at professional athletes — and the majority would get no cash probably, just some in-kind product or services. So, I think it’s just a sliver — maybe 5% of athletes — that would have any kind of meaningful deal at major universities.” Said A.J. Maestas, CEO of Navigate Research, a Chicago-based firm that assists colleges, conferences and pro sports entities with rights valuations.

“What’s more difficult to predict is what would happen with local deals. Local car dealers is the example I hear and think of most often, and when it might not really make sense as a marketing investment, but they’re a fan and they’re highly interested in what it might mean as a recruiting advantage.”

Most college athletes who earn extra money will get it by selling locally, the experts say. There are 347 Division I universities, and in many cases, the college sports teams are the chief form of entertainment in town.

“One of the things we know about these high-profile college athletes is they have a lot of authenticity in their market. They have a tremendous amount of support from the alumni and the media coverage of them is fairly consistent. I think there’s going to be a lot of local and regional (advertising) plays because that’s where these athletes have the most fervent following,” said David Carter, principal owner of The Sports Business Group and associate professor of sports business at Southern California.

“I think we’re talking about largely five-figure deals, $10,000 to $25,000.”

The NCAA opposes the movement toward allowing its athletes to profit from their brand. Its president, Mark Emmert, told USA TODAY Sports last week that athletes coming out of high school need to make the choice of whether to compete professionally or in college, but that the two can’t mix.

“The biggest worry is that when you have complete unfettered licensing agreements or unfettered endorsement deals, the model of college athletics is negligible at best and maybe doesn't even exist," Emmert said. "Those deals would be arranged with support or engagement of the school ... so they do become professional employees of schools? That is what most member schools are concerned about, not that people are opposed to have an appropriate way to get some form of (compensation for athletes).”

Bill author: Women would also profit under California law
Nancy Skinner is the California state representative who shepherded the "Fair Pay to Play Act" into law. She said she saw it primarily as a civil-rights issue: That college athletes should not be denied the opportunity to make money that every other citizen has just because the NCAA bans it while trying to protect its version of amateurism.

But Skinner has come to view the law as a potential revolution for female college athletes. Many of them reached out to her as the bill wound its way to the governor’s desk, Skinner said.

“College may be the only time that a woman athlete is going to have the spotlight on her. Why is she then restricted from getting any income from her skill and talent?” Skinner said.
 
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“Women are really excluded from professional (sports) opportunities and so they really should have a shot at getting something while they’re in college. It was the women themselves who began to point out to me the ways beyond my understanding how the NCAA’s rules hurt women athletes.”

Hayley Hodson provided a case in point. She was a volleyball player so gifted that she was a member of the U.S. national team at age 17, set on an Olympic path. She felt there were two options open to her after high school graduation: Play professionally in Europe, where she might not get the best coaching or face elite competition, or play at a major American university.

Hodson chose to compete at Stanford and was careful to turn away any endorsement deals.

As a freshman, Hodson suffered two concussions so severe that she eventually had to retire from her sport, never making a dime. Now a law student at UCLA, she testified on behalf of Skinner’s bill and wrote a letter of support to Gov. Gavin Newsom.

“I wasn’t trying to put food on the table. I was living at home, so I said ‘better safe than sorry.’ I’m not in dire need,” Hodson said of not accepting any money before competing at Stanford, not even her Olympic stipend, for fear the NCAA might rule her ineligible.

“But that’s me. There are all these other athletes in the world. There’s so much money that these families spend and have to sacrifice.”

Hodson believes women’s sports is an untapped market, and the California law might bring that to light. Women who compete in volleyball, gymnastics, soccer and more have large social media followings among youth participants in those sports, Hodson said. And that should be attractive to sponsors looking to move merchandise.

“With social media these days and the Internet and the speed of communication, the sky is the limit. There’s no set slice of the pie. I know a lot of women’s volleyball players who will probably make a good amount of money just because they’re talented and they already have a platform,” Hodson said.

“The monetary value hasn’t been proved yet. Whether you’re playing tennis at Notre Dame or water polo at Long Beach State or squash on the East Coast, there are people who really support those sports.”

Jonathan Jensen thinks national brands will see the value in promoting female athletes at universities alongside their male counterparts. It’s good business, said Jensen, an assistant professor of sport administration at North Carolina who spent more than a decade working out sponsorship deals with professional sports teams, leagues and athletes.

Jensen pointed out university athletic departments already have contracts with corporate sponsors who can use the school logo in advertising, meaning it would be an easy transition for those companies to extend those agreements to individual athletes.

“You can have the quarterback and the point guard on your packaging, but also the field hockey and women’s soccer player,” Jensen theorized. “Given that females make more than 90 percent of the buying decisions in the grocery store, why wouldn’t they leverage the images of great female athletes that every university has along with the male student-athletes?”

Untapped markets of video games, apparel sales
Football is by far the most popular sport in America, so it’s no surprise that those athletes stand to get a financial benefit that no others will. It may come in the form of annual payments from EA Sports, assuming that company revives its “NCAA Football” game once the names, images and likenesses rules take effect.

EA Sports discontinued the game in 2013 after former college athletes sued the NCAA and the video-game maker seeking a cut of the money for the use of their images.

Dan Rascher is the professor of sport management at the University of San Francisco who was hired for that trial to estimate what college football players would make off the video game. He said he went with a conservative figure of $1,000 to $1,500 per year for every player depicted. That’s about 30 players per team — the starters and key backups — at the 130 FBS programs.

“That’s a nice chunk of money to have in your pocket each year,” Rascher said.

He also pointed out another new source of revenue that some star athletes will be able to tap into: Jersey sales. Under current NCAA rules, apparel companies can’t manufacture jerseys of specific players while they’re still competing. The Collegiate Licensing Co. conducted a 2006 analysis that found more than a billion dollars of potential merchandise going unsold because of that.

That value has probably doubled since, given that college sports revenue grows 7 to 8 percent each year, Rascher said.

What does that mean? If apparel companies can make and sell jerseys of the starting quarterback or leading scorer on the basketball team, some of the profit would be split between the university and the athlete. That’s potentially hundreds of millions of dollars nationally to divide up.

“In a competitive market, some players could be making five and maybe even six figures,” Rascher said. “Think of the four- or five-star athlete coming out of high school with a lot of anticipation from fans. Marketers haven’t been creative before because there’s been no need to be. It will be the same sort of model used for professional athletes. Olympic athletes who come back to school. Anyone with a large following on social media. I think it really is just a matter of who is popular in the marketplace.

“The universities, they’re going to fight this the whole time. But as soon as it becomes law, then they’re going to want to be in on it, too. They can finally fully monetize the athletes.”

Ultimately, the marketplace will dictate how much college athletes can make, and which ones will reap the largest benefit.

Jensen said that’s the way it’s always been. A company will determine if, for example, paying Hurts $10,000 in order to put the Oklahoma quarterback’s picture on their packaging will result in additional sales of that much money or more.

“That system essentially already exists,” Jensen said. “The economists would probably simply suggest: Let a free-market mentality manage this and the companies can decide what the athlete is worth.”

Skinner said that’s all her legislation was intended to do. She can’t understand why it took so long to get to this point.

“This bill is going to benefit everybody. It’s not just about the elite athlete,” she said. “You could be the hometown hero of your small town because you won the statewide wrestling championship at your high school. Your local car dealership, for example, may want to sponsor you.

“This is really about much more than the big endorsements that might invoke in some people’s minds.”

LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...eness-control-could-make-millions/3909807002/
 
Another FREE article that appeared in USA Today.

If athlete endorsements come to college sports, expect seismic change in recruiting

Matthew Bain, USA TODAY
Published 3:11 p.m. ET Oct. 9, 2019 | Updated 3:18 p.m. ET Oct. 9, 2019

Hank Plona is the head basketball coach at Indian Hills, a junior college powerhouse in rural Iowa. The Indians are a perennial top-10 program that has sent 35 players on to Division I basketball since 2015, including one to reigning national champion Virginia last spring.

Plona has dealt with every kind of college coach — from low-majors through blue bloods — and has seen seemingly every pitch.

And he's preparing for seismic change to how recruiting is done.

The first year California’s new Fair Pay to Play Act takes effect is 2023, allowing the state's college athletes to profit from their name, image and likeness. It's become a national discussion since, with other states and U.S. congressmen discussing similar state and federal legislation. Meanwhile, an NCAA task force studying this model is expected to make its recommendation later this year.

“If anybody says that ... money and what you can do for a kid in recruiting is not a factor, they are lying. It’s important,” Plona said. “It would alter how you have to go about being successful.”

USA TODAY Sports has talked with numerous top football and basketball recruits, junior college coaches and recruiting influencers since Gov. Gavin Newsom signed California's bill into law in late September to weigh the potential effect of endorsements in recruiting.

One consensus was clear: Prepare for massive change in how recruiting is done.

MAJOR VALUE: Elite college athletes could be worth millions if change happen

What that change would look like, however, isn’t as clear.

“It opens Pandora’s Box,” said Rene Pulley, founder and owner of Twin Cities-based AAU club Howard Pulley, whose recent NBA alumni include Harrison Barnes and Tyus Jones. “There’s a lot of ways to do it. I guess I just wonder how the hell it’s going to be done.”

Here’s how the experts see things playing out.

This will not sway elite recruits as much
John Lamb runs Des Moines-based AAU basketball club Beyond Ball. He's also a guardian of Omaha Biliew, a 6-foot-7 freshman considered one of the top-10 prospects in 2023.

Lamb knows that, by the time Biliew commits, players may be getting paid for their name, image and likeness. There would be schools where Biliew is more marketable — where he’d be in line for more money through local endorsement deals in the community.

For a top-20 prospect, though, Lamb doesn’t think that will matter much.

“You’d have to consider, and probably predict, that it’s probably better to continue to go to Duke and Kentucky,” Lamb said. “You’d have to consider that the national scale that these schools have already cemented themselves on will continually hold the upper hand.”

Sonny Vaccaro agrees.

Vaccaro, the former Nike, Adidas and Reebok marketing executive who helped create shoe company influence in recruiting decades ago, said schools that are NBA springboards will still get the country’s elite. The lottery-pick paycheck they can help players land outweighs local endorsement money.

Also, an athlete could boost their professional endorsement outlook by playing for the most visible college programs and compete for national titles.

“On that level, they’ll pick the same schools,” Vaccaro said. “If I’m LeBron James, if I’m that kid and I’m going somewhere for a year, I’m still going to go to Duke or North Carolina.”

Sharife Cooper is one of those elite prospects. A five-star Auburn point guard recruit and the No. 2 player in the Chosen 25, Cooper said he could see endorsement deals affecting prospects’ commitments in the future, depending in large part on their financial situations.

For him, though, he said it wouldn’t have mattered.

“More than anything, it’s about the fit and the system,” said Cooper, a product of McEachern High in Powder Springs, Georgia. “I focus on the game. The rest will come.”

The further down the rankings, the greater the effect
Once you get out of that top-20 range of prospects in basketball, experts said things could get more interesting. That’s when potential earnings in one location versus another may matter.

Jerrel Oliver is the director of Chicago-based AAU club Team Rose. Recent alumni include Kansas State freshman DaJuan Gordon and Los Angeles Lakers rookie guard Talen Horton-Tucker.

With name, image and likeness compensation, Oliver thinks more prospects would choose schools closer to home because that’s where they’re most well-known — where they’ll have the most value in endorsements and apparel sales.

“You can market this or market that,” Oliver said, “and you’re selling the fact that you can get paid to represent your hometown, where you will always come back to and end up at for the rest of your life anyway.”

Pulley said endorsement deals could especially entice four-year college prospects to stay closer to home, because their earning potential may never be higher than it is in college.
 
“It’d be a plus for the ones that aren’t that a five-star, guaranteed first-round pick,” he said. “You’ve got a good chance of staying at home because that’s where your marketability is.”

Things are a little different in football.

In football recruiting, the effect of name, image and likeness compensation would look different.

For Vaccaro, it’s simple: There’s more name recognition — and endorsement potential — in a three-player basketball class than in a 25-player football class.

Still, it's expected there'd be money in jersey sales, video games and local endorsements in football.

California five-star 2020 quarterback Bryce Young, an Alabama commit, said earning potential would not have factored into his decision.

“But I definitely don’t think that would be the universal answer,” Young explained. “There's a lot of people where that would have a lot to do with their decision.”

Role of boosters: 'Opening up a whole can of worms'
Experts said boosters’ recruiting presence would increase — and come out from under the rug — if name, image and likeness compensation is allowed.

That’s a scary proposition for some, including Oliver, Pulley and Scott Strohmeier, head coach of junior college football powerhouse Iowa Western, which has 11 of 247Sports’ top-100 juco prospects in the 2020 class.

“You could literally just have them over to your house and say, ‘Hey, I want you to do this TV piece for me, selling cars. And by the way, here’s $20,000,’” Strohmeier said. “With some of these boosters and some of these fans, you’re opening up a whole can of worms.”

Vaccaro doesn’t see that as a bad thing.

In a free market-driven system like this, he said, prospects would get the money they deserve, and schools with passionate boosters willing to shell out funds could become larger players in recruiting.

In essence, boosters could put their money where their mouth is.

“In basketball, you only need one or two of those son of a guns,” Vaccaro said. “That would allow basketball to tighten up. The little school could beat the big school.”

In his sport, Plona could see name, image and likeness compensation helping schools without football, such as Marquette and Xavier. That allows boosters and local companies to focus their contributions on basketball.

“The Creightons of the world. The Wichita States of the world,” Plona said. “There could be some programs that really get some of those significant donors or boosters or owners of small companies around the area, and all of a sudden, the basketball kids could be their top guys.”

Minnesota's Pitino: We would adjust
California’s new law was a popular talking point at last week’s Big Ten men’s basketball media day.

Minnesota’s Richard Pitino was also asked how the law could specifically affect recruiting.

His answer reflected what experts told USA TODAY Sports: Colleges would have no choice but to incorporate marketability and potential endorsement opportunities in their recruiting pitches.

“You’re going to have to show how your program can provide opportunities for players in that realm, right?” Pitino said. “So we’re all trying to figure that out. We all sell whatever we’re offering to kids. … Now it’s going to be about the opportunities in the community, and it’s our responsibility to educate the players.”

Plona said today’s successful coaches do everything in their power, within the rules, to find and exploit every advantage they can for their program.

And if endorsement deals became legal, he said, they’d simply provide one more way to gain an advantage.

“I would think trying to make sure kids are aware of every potential dollar they could get would be a part of (recruiting),” Plona said.

Vaccaro believes, if a prospect has financial value, he or she should have the option to make the most of it. On the flip side, others worry boosters and local companies could take advantage of families and athletes in most need of money. Oliver is concerned money would play too big a factor, and that recruiting could become bidding wars.

“Almost, 'Who can offer the most?'" Oliver said.

Pulley worries about bidding wars, too. But he's been around a while. He founded Howard Pulley in the 1980s. And, based on his 30-plus years in the business, he thinks introducing name, image and likeness compensation would help more than hurt.

"This could go several different ways. But I’d like to think positive,” Pulley said, “and think it’s going to go in the right direction.”

USA TODAY High School Sports reporters Jason Jordan and Logan Newman contributed to this story.

LINK: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...hange-if-ncaa-allows-endorsements/3908164002/
 
I only see this move as somewhat legitimizing the already rampant corruption in big time college sports. If I set up this system to prevent that corruption I’d establish a nationwide pool of all the eligible earnings made by every D1 scholarship athlete regardless of how it’s earned. Quarterly, these revenues would be distributed equally amongst all eligible athletes regardless of the amount they contributed to the pool. You can’t get a more level playing field than that. If you take money under the table and are caught, you’re ineligible for any NCAA sports activity and the athletic program is sanctioned as well.
 
Well, if the player gains the right to be paid for his number jersey, then the school looses that right. Some of the profits the school sees from shirt sales would go to SAs.
Actually, the price of the jersey would increase and the consumer would now be directly paying the player.
 
Emmert is doing a story for USA Today. He was talking to an expert who said that the Clemson QB right now would probably be making 7 figures in product endorsements.

I guess all of these under the table 6 figure payments we learned about with the FBI investigation would now become over the table payments.
Great let’s make college kids become “Legends in Their Own Mind”. As if we don’t have enough professional athletes who are already there.
 
I only see this move as somewhat legitimizing the already rampant corruption in big time college sports. If I set up this system to prevent that corruption I’d establish a nationwide pool of all the eligible earnings made by every D1 scholarship athlete regardless of how it’s earned. Quarterly, these revenues would be distributed equally amongst all eligible athletes regardless of the amount they contributed to the pool. You can’t get a more level playing field than that. If you take money under the table and are caught, you’re ineligible for any NCAA sports activity and the athletic program is sanctioned as well.
Then, when they graduate, you can take all of the money that they make in their jobs in divide it up equally among all of the citizens in the country. That's what they're used to, so who is going to complain.
 
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