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How are we ho humming this grotesquely corrupt, literal joke of a 2nd Trump "Presidency"

You're right. The economy was just stalled, schools closed, food/sundry shortages, health care system was overworked, people dying and cities on fire. Totally smooth sailing.
Of course he didn't win in his second attempt. And it may very well have been due to covid and the economy (starting to) starting to faulter.

This election was probably boringly predictable.

Biden caught the main thrust of the fallout from covid -- mostly not his fault but for third stimulus contribution -- and paid for it.

Trump in his attempt at term 2 caught covid at the tail end.

Otherwise he had a better approval rating and people's pocketbooks had more spending power.

That was enough. That dumb. People thought times were better under Trump and so they brought him back when faced with the alternative.
 
Of course he didn't win in his second attempt. And it may very well have been due to covid and the economy (starting to) starting to faulter.

This election was probably boringly predictable.

Biden caught the main thrust of the fallout from covid -- mostly not his fault but for third stimulus contribution -- and paid for it.

Trump in his attempt at term 2 caught covid at the tail end.

Otherwise he had a better approval rating and people's pocketbooks had more spending power.

That was enough. That dumb. People thought times were better under Trump and so they brought him back when faced with the alternative.

Than what, GWB? His average approval rate is 41 with a low of 34 at the end of his term. Those numbers come in second to last.

I think you may be misremembering the entire last quarter of his presidency.
 
That's the rationalization?

So, all I got to do is run on trans hate and I can garner your vote?
Trans hate? Pointing out the absurdity of naming that person health secretary is hate now? This is a thread about supposedly bad staffing choices, I'm simply pointing out the ridiculous hypocrisy of the left on this topic.
 
I agree that's his plan, but I think it's more likely his fat ass strokes out or has a heart attack and dies before 2028. Plus, in the end, even if Trump is still alive, I think enough Republicans will come to their senses and put an end to that plan. No, I won't hold my breath, but that is my guess as to the most likely outcome.
You have TDS.
 
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Than what, GWB? His average approval rate is 41 with a low of 34 at the end of his term. Those numbers come in second to last.

I think you may be misremembering the entire last quarter of his presidency.


And I got the data from a podcast I was listening to last night:

This podcast: first 10 or 15 minutes



Strong argument can be made that it was much more about the economy than anything else. Democrats were unlucky enough to be the covid term. Incumbents around the world world did very poorly if they had the covid term.
 
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I'm not the one hyperventilating on an anonymous message board 3 months before the new admin has even taken over. Get a grip or get help before you stroke out.
Hyperventilating? I've barely posted since the dunces have spoken. I care about the country because I actually served it. Trump's entire prior administration did not endorse him for a reason. Stop being an idiot.
 
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People made their choice - now it’s time to sit back and watch the “find out” phase. The Idaho subreddit was just panicking over all their on/guns leaving the state. Oh well, your wives and daughters will pay the price.
Wtf?!?
 


And I got the data from a podcast I was listening to last night:

This podcast: first 10 or 15 minutes



Strong argument can be made that it was much more about the economy than anything else. Democrats were unlucky enough to be the covid term. Incumbents around the world world did very poorly if they had the covid term.

Those are legit the pages that I pulled the numbers. I agree that timing is a factor, but that doesn't really touch on why I responded to you in the first place. 2020 was as close to falling apart as I've seen the national landscape in my lifetime. I'm not assigning blame or trying to take a 1000 mile viewpoint. Just reminding you that Trump's presidency was far from steady and that "didn't fall apart" is literally the lowest threshold of success I can imagine.
 
Those are legit the pages that I pulled the numbers. I agree that timing is a factor, but that doesn't really touch on why I responded to you in the first place. 2020 was as close to falling apart as I've seen the national landscape in my lifetime. I'm not assigning blame or trying to take a 1000 mile viewpoint. Just reminding you that Trump's presidency was far from steady and that "didn't fall apart" is literally the lowest threshold of success I can imagine.
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Those are legit the pages that I pulled the numbers. I agree that timing is a factor, but that doesn't really touch on why I responded to you in the first place. 2020 was as close to falling apart as I've seen the national landscape in my lifetime. I'm not assigning blame or trying to take a 1000 mile viewpoint. Just reminding you that Trump's presidency was far from steady and that "didn't fall apart" is literally the lowest threshold of success I can imagine.
I agree that the runup to the 2020 election (especially after covid kicked in) was insane.

You know my views on him, a complete idiot on multiple levels. You don't put people like that in positions of power.

My only point is that he was viewed as better for your pocketbook option than Biden and people remember their pre-pandemic time with him as better. At least that seems to be the best explanation for our 2024 results. Biden paid more for covid than Trump did. (and even then, was probably a major contributor to why he lost in 2020)

Apparently Trump didn't have enough stink on him from 2020, stink was fresher on Biden
 
We are a nation half full of inbreds and imbeciles.

We get the government we deserve.
I literally don’t know what could possibly happen in the next 4 years to get his supporters to change their minds. I really don’t. It’s going to be an authoritarian shitshow but Fox News will put lipstick on that pig, and they’ll give it a big kiss. I seriously don’t think there will be another democrat president in my lifetime. It’s not going to be allowed. All the pieces will be in place to keep it from happening.
 
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I agree that's his plan, but I think it's more likely his fat ass strokes out or has a heart attack and dies before 2028. Plus, in the end, even if Trump is still alive, I think enough Republicans will come to their senses and put an end to that plan. No, I won't hold my breath, but that is my guess as to the most likely outcome.
I see NOTHING that suggests Republicans will come to their senses. You’re a Liz Cheney type outlier and the rest of them won’t listen to your logic.
 
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I agree that's his plan, but I think it's more likely his fat ass strokes out or has a heart attack and dies before 2028. Plus, in the end, even if Trump is still alive, I think enough Republicans will come to their senses and put an end to that plan. No, I won't hold my breath, but that is my guess as to the most likely outcome.
Very Likely.

Not very likely. They have a winning formula right now.


He’ll leave. I’m not worried about that.

Im just concerned about the damage between now and then.
 
I agree that the runup to the 2020 election (especially after covid kicked in) was insane.

You know my views on him, a complete idiot on multiple levels. You don't put people like that in positions of power.

My only point is that he was viewed as better for your pocketbook option than Biden and people remember their pre-pandemic time with him as better. At least that seems to be the best explanation for our 2024 results. Biden paid more for covid than Trump did. (and even then, was probably a major contributor to why he lost in 2020)

Apparently Trump didn't have enough stink on him from 2020, stink was fresher on Biden

I don't doubt you're correct when you describe how people feel. I'm saying those feelings are misleading and largely seem to come from a time that never really existed. It speaks more to how/why/where we seem to be choosing to inform ourselves. Just like their Trump daddy, most people that remember better times under his watch probably aren't drilling into the realities of the numbers.

That's just my observation, but I feel pretty confident considering how many times I've read about how it's good policy to run the world's largest macro-economy like a business or household. No matter how you slice it, it's a vast over-distillation that is evident in Trump and his supports basic misunderstanding of how tariffs function.
 
I agree that the runup to the 2020 election (especially after covid kicked in) was insane.

You know my views on him, a complete idiot on multiple levels. You don't put people like that in positions of power.

My only point is that he was viewed as better for your pocketbook option than Biden and people remember their pre-pandemic time with him as better. At least that seems to be the best explanation for our 2024 results. Biden paid more for covid than Trump did. (and even then, was probably a major contributor to why he lost in 2020)

Apparently Trump didn't have enough stink on him from 2020, stink was fresher on Biden
Could be…but you need to get over it. 😉
 
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